Offseason Random Stuff - 2023

[catatac]

Four home games. Ouch.

And 3 tough home games.
Hard to get playoff eligible when you play 2 FBS games. They'll have to be the real deal to get 7 wins out of this schedule.

Man, the program must be broke, chasing money just to keep the lights on. I thought they had plenty of money, and Isu needed help.

Is that what it is.... or just lack of teams to schedule? I don't know how much they're getting paid for the two games but it's Nevada and Cal. We're not talking Georgia and Alabama here. They could go 2-0 there... but my prediction is they split.

[AFCAT]

Four home games. Ouch.

And 3 tough home games.
Hard to get playoff eligible when you play 2 FBS games. They'll have to be the real deal to get 7 wins out of this schedule.

Man, the program must be broke, chasing money just to keep the lights on. I thought they had plenty of money, and Isu needed help.

Is that what it is.... or just lack of teams to schedule? I don't know how much they're getting paid for the two games but it's Nevada and Cal. We're not talking Georgia and Alabama here. They could go 2-0 there... but my prediction is they split.

$650k from Cal and $400k from Nevada.

[Bobcat4Ever]

I took these pics yesterday for those of you interested in the progress of the fitness center construction.

Wow. It seemed like the previous fitness center was pretty new yet, but I guess time flies whether desired or not. I’m sure with the increased enrollment that more space is needed. Is the original fitness center in the west wing (with the big windows) still there? Is this new building just replacing the footprint of the north and south gyms plus some obvious eastward expansion? Or is it also replacing the center section where the locker rooms, pool, handball courts, etc. were?

It looks to me that most of the old fitness center was gutted. Shroyer Gym is still there but not much else. The new facility will be larger than the old facility. This is an old photo from basically the same angle as mine. You can see the old Gatton Field gate for reference.

Thank you, AFCAT! I’m more than familiar with that view. I walked across the street there (before the parking was added on the south side) 2 to 4 to 6 times per day on the majority of school/work days from 1967-2009. I was hoping they didn’t have blow up the “new” rec center, but I suppose expansion necessitated pretty much everything except the bones.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[catatac]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

[CatAttack22]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

[JoeCatsJoe]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Starts talking about it at around the 18 minute mark of hour one of yesterday’s show on Spotify. I just don’t really know how you get there, since we have such a proven commodity at the position.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

[GeauxCats41]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Agree 100%. Had to find a way to tie it up and please everyone. However, I think there are some positions that are quite a bit closer than QB or TE. For instance, I think you could make a much, MUCH better case that CB is a draw than either QB or TE. Either way, happy for the content and something to talk about.

[SparkCat]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Weird, I was just writing something similar, however, you worded it much better than I could of.

No doubt that Vidlak is good, yet I’d take Tommy or Sean over him any day. Also, and although just a spring game, Tommy looked great. His passes had zip and he seemed even quicker his feet.

End of the day it was to keep the peace, it was a professional comment and it was a comment to basically say both teams look great in those positions. From what I have read of Colter’s work, he calls it typically how it is and is fairly positive, and one thing he never does is makes demeaning remarks about athletes. When it comes to comparisons he will make the best of both samples.

[VimSince03]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Weird, I was just writing something similar, however, you worded it much better than I could of.

No doubt that Vidlak is good, yet I’d take Tommy or Sean over him any day. Also, and although just a spring game, Tommy looked great. His passes had zip and he seemed even quicker his feet.

End of the day it was to keep the peace, it was a professional comment and it was a comment to basically say both teams look great in those positions. From what I have read of Colter’s work, he calls it typically how it is and is fairly positive, and one thing he never does is makes demeaning remarks about athletes. When it comes to comparisons he will make the best of both samples.

If the QB position was so clear over in Missoula, curious why they are still offering QBs. Make no mistake, I thought Vidlak looked solid and efficient in the spring game but is this a depth move or does Hauck want more competition? Likely a bit of both. Anyway, MSU's QB position right now is absolutely not a draw when compared to what they have over in Missoula.

[CelticCat]

One, I haven't seen Vidlak play and I doubt many of you have either. Two, it's hard to compare two completely different styles of QB. Let's face it, Mellott doesn't start at a lot of FCS schools that value throwing the ball down the field. He's perfect at MSU, he doesn't see the field at EWU.

That being said it's hard to it's a draw when Tommy has done nothing but win and Vidlak hasn't started a game. I think you gotta go with Tommy on that alone here.

The TE is a joke, Grossman is a good WR but Snell and Pickering are no slouches and Snell is the best blocking TE that I've ever seen at MSU.

[GeauxCats41]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Weird, I was just writing something similar, however, you worded it much better than I could of.

No doubt that Vidlak is good, yet I’d take Tommy or Sean over him any day. Also, and although just a spring game, Tommy looked great. His passes had zip and he seemed even quicker his feet.

End of the day it was to keep the peace, it was a professional comment and it was a comment to basically say both teams look great in those positions. From what I have read of Colter’s work, he calls it typically how it is and is fairly positive, and one thing he never does is makes demeaning remarks about athletes. When it comes to comparisons he will make the best of both samples.

Vidlak may have a good year, may even finally be the answer they’re looking for. But to say we have players on the defense who have something to prove so the gris have the upper hand in a certain position and then ignoring Tommy’s title run and the duos success last year thus bringing vidlak up to par is a miss. TE is a weird one to me. Snell is just flat out better, Pickering is an awesome compliment. Both had a better day yardage wise and impact wise during the brawl, while grossman gained most of his yards on 1 TD pass against the scout defense, snell was a first teamer (RJ shoulda been there and Snell shoulda been TE) , which helped grossman sneak in as an honorable mention.

I do thing Colter does well treading both sides and please don’t take this as Colter bashing- he’s awesome and I don’t want his job. But I think there was a miss for TE and QB. All of this is my two cents!

[GeauxCats41]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Agree 100%. Had to find a way to tie it up and please everyone. However, I think there are some positions that are quite a bit closer than QB or TE. For instance, I think you could make a much, MUCH better case that CB is a draw than either QB or TE. Either way, happy for the content and something to talk about.

It was GREAT content. But if you’re looking to make it a tie, there are many more positions you could have suggested to get that, but QB and TE aren’t it. I would say LB is the spot to call the tie. The Gris having a better LB group is not the most accurate statement. Askelson’s game won’t digress because he’s wearing 41, Danny U is An amazing talent who flies to the ball, McCade will make a huge impact along with more players in the chamber.

[AFCAT]

If the last few years have proven anything for both the Cats and the gris, it’s that you better have a good back-up QB. QB injuries have really hurt both teams. I can’t see how the gris having one good QB can make their room a draw with the Cats.

[coloradocat]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Weird, I was just writing something similar, however, you worded it much better than I could of.

No doubt that Vidlak is good, yet I’d take Tommy or Sean over him any day. Also, and although just a spring game, Tommy looked great. His passes had zip and he seemed even quicker his feet.

End of the day it was to keep the peace, it was a professional comment and it was a comment to basically say both teams look great in those positions. From what I have read of Colter’s work, he calls it typically how it is and is fairly positive, and one thing he never does is makes demeaning remarks about athletes. When it comes to comparisons he will make the best of both samples.

Vidlak may have a good year, may even finally be the answer they’re looking for. But to say we have players on the defense who have something to prove so the gris have the upper hand in a certain position and then ignoring Tommy’s title run and the duos success last year thus bringing vidlak up to par is a miss. TE is a weird one to me. Snell is just flat out better, Pickering is an awesome compliment. Both had a better day yardage wise and impact wise during the brawl, while grossman gained most of his yards on 1 TD pass against the scout defense, snell was a first teamer (RJ shoulda been there and Snell shoulda been TE) , which helped grossman sneak in as an honorable mention.

I do thing Colter does well treading both sides and please don’t take this as Colter bashing- he’s awesome and I don’t want his job. But I think there was a miss for TE and QB. All of this is my two cents!

Our TE is a better passer than their TE!

[GeauxCats41]

Listening to Colter’s breakdown of the positions after spring. I want to say that we are incredibly lucky to have such high quality coverage in Montana. He’s very very good, no other teams have the high level coverage that Montana and Montana State have. With that being said, saying that the QBs are a “wait and see” is ludicrous. We’ve already seen what Big Cat and Little Cat can do, perhaps the best QB duo in the FCS. You have to put a LOT of faith that Vidlak will be absolutely amazing to call it a draw. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Oh boy..... I missed that part, will have to dig it up. I watched the UM Spring game, then ours, and came away thinking there's a real chance our 3rd or 4th string QB would probably have a serious battle with Vidlak for QB1 over there.

Listening to it now. Colter said that the Cats and gris are a draw at tight end too?? There is no way there is a better tight end room than the Cats in the Big Sky

Didn’t really understand that one either. I understand that Grossman is a receiving mismatch, but we have multiple TEs that can do a huge variety of things other than just receiving. Snell made all-conference at fullback

It was about as politically correct as you can be. Didn’t want to upset the UM fans. You can’t tell me with a straight face you don’t know who has the better QB room rn, it’s not Montana. Montana swears they are a “decent QB away” from a NC every year. A couple completed passes in a spring game gives them justification. Just wait until they start 6-0 maybe 5-1 with UCD. Groundhogs day on repeat until idaho beats them again. As for the TE- Snell will garner legit NFL interest and we’re deep there. It’s not a draw. But for the sake of keeping it PC, it is what it is.

Weird, I was just writing something similar, however, you worded it much better than I could of.

No doubt that Vidlak is good, yet I’d take Tommy or Sean over him any day. Also, and although just a spring game, Tommy looked great. His passes had zip and he seemed even quicker his feet.

End of the day it was to keep the peace, it was a professional comment and it was a comment to basically say both teams look great in those positions. From what I have read of Colter’s work, he calls it typically how it is and is fairly positive, and one thing he never does is makes demeaning remarks about athletes. When it comes to comparisons he will make the best of both samples.

Vidlak may have a good year, may even finally be the answer they’re looking for. But to say we have players on the defense who have something to prove so the gris have the upper hand in a certain position and then ignoring Tommy’s title run and the duos success last year thus bringing vidlak up to par is a miss. TE is a weird one to me. Snell is just flat out better, Pickering is an awesome compliment. Both had a better day yardage wise and impact wise during the brawl, while grossman gained most of his yards on 1 TD pass against the scout defense, snell was a first teamer (RJ shoulda been there and Snell shoulda been TE) , which helped grossman sneak in as an honorable mention.

I do thing Colter does well treading both sides and please don’t take this as Colter bashing- he’s awesome and I don’t want his job. But I think there was a miss for TE and QB. All of this is my two cents!

Our TE is a better passer than their TE!

Oh yeah? Where’s your proof !

[BelligerentBobcat]

I enjoy Colter, but that breakdown was ******.

The Griz’s unproven QB is a draw with a QB room that produced 4200 yards and 50 TD’s? The only places MSU is better than UM is RB, OL, and DE? Give me a break! We all saw MSU beat the stuffing out of UM. It wasn’t even close. Being objective isn’t trying to keep it even, it’s being honest with what you see. That might as well have been from the Griz fan pod, but honestly, I doubt even they’d be that biased. Just utter ******.

[rivercat]

I'm a longtime Colter fan and subscriber. That position breakdown was a total whiff. Oh well, I can understand to a certain extent. I don't where Cat gear when I'm doing work in missoula because my customers are paying me well and I don't need to aggravate them.

Colter would have been better not doing the comparison than doing a PC one.