Vigen Speaks to Utah State about HC Opening

[rivercat]

The one advantage the griz have is no one wants there coach. They have no worriers for him leaving for another team. I love that that school and that coach are meant for each other for life.

I wonder what the um AD is thinking right now.

He has a coach in his 5th year whos motto when he hired him was "return to dominance"
They lost 2 conference home games, how long has it been since that has happened.
They just got spanked by the Cats
The Cats got the pick of pretty much all instate recruits
Their best instate recruit they lost to an NAIA school
They just had a playoff game with the lowest attendance since the early 90's
They have a second round playoff game that nobody, even their most faithful fans think they have a shot at winning.
Nobody is interested in their coach or staff.

What a hilarious post. I cannot remember a time when the in state recruiting was ever as lopsided to one team for in-state players. Not even during the streak. I think the stark difference between Coach Vigan and Hauck has become so apparent that it makes the choice a no brainer.

When someone within the program was asked how they got Adam Jones out of Missoula, they said, "oh, easy, all we had to do was let him go on a one-day visit to UM and after hanging out with that staff, we knew we'd get him for sure."

This is almost as good as winning Cat-Griz.

Bobby is the gift that keeps on giving.

[4KornerKat]

Just to close the loop on the thread title on this one:

[Cledus]

The one advantage the griz have is no one wants there coach. They have no worriers for him leaving for another team. I love that that school and that coach are meant for each other for life.

I wonder what the um AD is thinking right now.

He has a coach in his 5th year whos motto when he hired him was "return to dominance"
They lost 2 conference home games, how long has it been since that has happened.
They just got spanked by the Cats
The Cats got the pick of pretty much all instate recruits
Their best instate recruit they lost to an NAIA school
They just had a playoff game with the lowest attendance since the early 90's
They have a second round playoff game that nobody, even their most faithful fans think they have a shot at winning.
Nobody is interested in their coach or staff.

[Cledus]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

Yeah, I don't see UNM opening any new doors for Vigen.

[CalgaryCat]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

[RootinfortheCats]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

An upwardly mobile coach can turn one of the FBS cellar dwellers into a better job pretty quickly, and bank some cash at the same time.

Vigen to the Albuquerque Real Estate Agent: “I’m looking for a nice month-to-month rental.”

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

An upwardly mobile coach can turn one of the FBS cellar dwellers into a better job pretty quickly, and bank some cash at the same time.

Vigen to the Albuquerque Real Estate Agent: “I’m looking for a nice month-to-month rental.”

Or that coach could be stuck with castoffs from other programs, get stuck in a tough spot in a skeleton of the. mountain west, and have to take a coordinator position to rehab their image after several years of going like 3-8 or 4-7. Choate went 3-10 at Nevada and 0-7 in conference play.

[RootinfortheCats]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

An upwardly mobile coach can turn one of the FBS cellar dwellers into a better job pretty quickly, and bank some cash at the same time.

Vigen to the Albuquerque Real Estate Agent: “I’m looking for a nice month-to-month rental.”

Or that coach could be stuck with castoffs from other programs, get stuck in a tough spot in a skeleton of the. mountain west, and have to take a coordinator position to rehab their image after several years of going like 3-8 or 4-7. Choate went 3-10 at Nevada and 0-7 in conference play.

All part of the Choate Plan.

Lose big, lose small, win small, win big.

I actually think he skipped straight to the lose small year in Nevada though.

Vigen has a different style than Choate though.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

An upwardly mobile coach can turn one of the FBS cellar dwellers into a better job pretty quickly, and bank some cash at the same time.

Vigen to the Albuquerque Real Estate Agent: “I’m looking for a nice month-to-month rental.”

Or that coach could be stuck with castoffs from other programs, get stuck in a tough spot in a skeleton of the. mountain west, and have to take a coordinator position to rehab their image after several years of going like 3-8 or 4-7. Choate went 3-10 at Nevada and 0-7 in conference play.

All part of the Choate Plan.

Lose big, lose small, win small, win big.

I actually think he skipped straight to the lose small year in Nevada though.

Vigen has a different style than Choate though.

Choate is such a good salesman he actually marketed losing games as part of a plan.

[RICO CAT]

Just to close the loop on the thread title on this one:

Their outstanding quarterback gave notice he is entering the transfer portal.

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

An upwardly mobile coach can turn one of the FBS cellar dwellers into a better job pretty quickly, and bank some cash at the same time.

Vigen to the Albuquerque Real Estate Agent: “I’m looking for a nice month-to-month rental.”

Or that coach could be stuck with castoffs from other programs, get stuck in a tough spot in a skeleton of the. mountain west, and have to take a coordinator position to rehab their image after several years of going like 3-8 or 4-7. Choate went 3-10 at Nevada and 0-7 in conference play.

All part of the Choate Plan.

Lose big, lose small, win small, win big.

I actually think he skipped straight to the lose small year in Nevada though.

Vigen has a different style than Choate though.

That plan was prior to the advent of the transfer portal though. It’s much harder to count on consistent growth from year to year. Gotta sell kids on success, opportunity (financial or on-field), or location, every single year.

[GoldstoneCat]

I’m less worried about Vigen going to UMN over Fresno St and USU. That program stand out as lackluster even compared to the other MWC schools. A pay raise to go there doesn’t make much sense when the chance of being kicked out after a couple seasons is so high

An upwardly mobile coach can turn one of the FBS cellar dwellers into a better job pretty quickly, and bank some cash at the same time.

Vigen to the Albuquerque Real Estate Agent: “I’m looking for a nice month-to-month rental.”

Or that coach could be stuck with castoffs from other programs, get stuck in a tough spot in a skeleton of the. mountain west, and have to take a coordinator position to rehab their image after several years of going like 3-8 or 4-7. Choate went 3-10 at Nevada and 0-7 in conference play.

All part of the Choate Plan.

Lose big, lose small, win small, win big.

I actually think he skipped straight to the lose small year in Nevada though.

Vigen has a different style than Choate though.

Choate is such a good salesman he actually marketed losing games as part of a plan.

He will sell the vision. We'll see if he can deliver on it at a cellar dweller. He will have to have some answers on offense at some point.

[FA_Q_M]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

[blueandgoldblitz]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

TV shows lead me to believe that they have some pretty good meth down there.

[FA_Q_M]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

TV shows lead me to believe that they have some pretty good meth down there.

Only the blue stuff...

[seataccat]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

Yea Albuquerque is really nice. Better than Bozeman for a lot of people's taste.
Not sure that dominating at the FCS level of football is seen in the same light that you think it is. Building an FBS team would be seen with a lot more favorability IMHO. Maybe I'm wrong but in the mean time he'd be making millions with a lot lower expectations.

[Long Time Cat]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

Bohl went to Wyoming after a very successful run at NDSU and had a few decent years but never really turned the program around. Vigen was a part of that and I'm sure he knows the pros and cons of that better than anyone. I see UW and UNM as being pretty similar opportunities and would be surprise if Vigen were interested. For those who argue money will be the deciding factor I would counter that family and stability are very important to some people and because of Vigen's history he seems like one of those types of people. I know several people who turned down jobs for good money because they had their kids in a good place and they liked what they were doing. It seems to me for a family and a work environment there is no comparison between Bozeman and Albuquerque.

Never underestimate the impact that family has on career decisions and I think rightly so.

[RUACAT]

The one advantage the griz have is no one wants there coach. They have no worriers for him leaving for another team. I love that that school and that coach are meant for each other for life.

I wonder what the um AD is thinking right now.

He has a coach in his 5th year whos motto when he hired him was "return to dominance"
They lost 2 conference home games, how long has it been since that has happened.
They just got spanked by the Cats
The Cats got the pick of pretty much all instate recruits
Their best instate recruit they lost to an NAIA school
They just had a playoff game with the lowest attendance since the early 90's
They have a second round playoff game that nobody, even their most faithful fans think they have a shot at winning.
Nobody is interested in their coach or staff.

In the immortal words of former gris great Micheal Ray Richardson, "This ship be sinkin"

[CatAttack22]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

Yea Albuquerque is really nice. Better than Bozeman for a lot of people's taste.
Not sure that dominating at the FCS level of football is seen in the same light that you think it is. Building an FBS team would be seen with a lot more favorability IMHO. Maybe I'm wrong but in the mean time he'd be making millions with a lot lower expectations.

I don't think you are joking here, so I'm really curious to ask. What do you like about Albuquerque and why is it better than Bozeman?

[The Butcher]

New Mexico, and Utah State for that matter, would be at the very least lateral moves IMO. I know they're both bigger paydays but why leave an FCS powerhouse that is clearly ascending for an FBS celler dweller?

He would more than double his salary but you think that is a lateral move?

Absolutely. I'm not ignorant to the pay raise. Just seems to me winning 90% of your games at the FCS level would open more doors than overseeing a perennial bottom feeder. Plus, have you been to Albuquerque?!

Yea Albuquerque is really nice. Better than Bozeman for a lot of people's taste.
Not sure that dominating at the FCS level of football is seen in the same light that you think it is. Building an FBS team would be seen with a lot more favorability IMHO. Maybe I'm wrong but in the mean time he'd be making millions with a lot lower expectations.

I don't think you are joking here, so I'm really curious to ask. What do you like about Albuquerque and why is it better than Bozeman?

Hot air balloons.