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TomCat88
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by TomCat88 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:08 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:07 pm
wbtfg wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:00 pm
No WAY he's a top candidate. Have you seen his winning percentage....?
To be fair, I don’t think anyone doesn’t think he’s a top candidate. Just that he’s not going to get it. Doesn’t run a similar offense and hasn’t developed a quarterback would be other things that some of those on the committee would have concerns about.
Has the BSU committee really gotten into the nitty gritty of this due to the holiday? Has Choate interviewed yet?
If neither has happened, I would say Choate is still very much in the mix.
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by imacat » Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:58 pm
I will be very surprised if Coach Choate is selected. His failure to develop a quarterback is a large hole in his resume. (I will confess I may be looking for reasons he stays here).
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by Bobcat4Ever » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:13 pm
From the article (by Mike Prater, Idaho Press) TomCat posted earlier, it does not sound as if there is a committee. And it’s not the great gig it once was.
There may be a third candidate involved in the search, or more. A final decision is in the hands of new university president Marlene Tromp, who has very little football background, former Missouri athletic director/current consultant Mike Alden, and the national search firm of Collegiate Sports Associates.
Anyone have any idea what that crew will decide? With very little Boise State history, knowledge and emotional attachment in that group, anything is possible.
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Before those questions are answered, one must remember that the Boise State football gig isn’t what it used to be. At least right now. And one reason why Harsin bolted for the SEC.
The university has no athletic director — that hire should happen during the first part of 2021.
The university has a new president — and she’s in charge of an athletic department that is broke.
The east-side renovation of Albertsons Stadium has been halted.
Interesting. Very interesting. Montana State might still be Coach Choate’s dream job. We have a good athletic director in place. The department is not broke, at least yet. And the renovation of Bobcat Stadium is moving right along.
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by Common Cat » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:52 pm
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by Cat4LifeHouseDivided » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:32 pm
This was from the 26th....not sure its as solid as we all hope.
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by TomCat88 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:43 pm
Cat4LifeHouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:32 pm
This was from the 26th....not sure its as solid as we all hope.
Yes, it's losing its punch. I wonder if any of the main candidates has interviewed yet. That's always shrouded in mystery. A lot of times coaches meet selection committees in airport conference rooms, but in this Covid era they may just all be getting interviewed via Skype or something like that. Could be they've all been interviewed, then again that might not start until tomorrow due the holiday. Anybody's guess. You'd think some news about interviews would've leaked by now, which has me wondering if any have happened yet.
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by TomCat88 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:54 pm
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by superbobcat » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:58 am
Sounds like a $¥|+ show.
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by rivercat » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:50 am
Pete works for Yahoo Sports out of Boston MA and has as many inside sources as do the other 50 experts chiming in which means he doesn't know. I don't give Pete any more weight than those that say some interviews have already been conducted and the hire will be announced soon.
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by CelticCat » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
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by Camo_Cat » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...
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by iaafan » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:07 pm
Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...
That's a really good point. There's always a lot of turnover in the NFL and Moore might be on someone's radar as a head coach. Yesterday was very impressive. It'll be interesting to see how the Cowboys do at NYG this week.
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by ilovethecats » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:27 pm
Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...
I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.
My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.
I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.
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by Montanabob » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:02 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:27 pm
Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...
I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.
My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.
I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.
I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.
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by ilovethecats » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:38 pm
Montanabob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:02 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:27 pm
Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...
I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.
My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.
I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.
I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.
Well not if the info on his current deal with the Cowboys is correct. It's obviously incentivized but I believe his base salary is only 70 something grand. I can't imagine even with bonuses that he's much higher than 100k. I'd think he'd make far more as the head coach of Boise St. College head coaches make more than NFL coordinators all over the place, so I guess I just assumed this would be the case.
I'll admit that if those numbers aren't correct, and he's making more with the Cowboys than he would at Boise than it may not make sense. But even then, I'd think Boise wants him bad enough where that wouldn't be the case.
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by AFCAT » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:43 pm
So, the experts are saying that Avalos will be the head coach and Moore will be the head coach.

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by CelticCat » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:10 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:43 pm
So, the experts are saying that Avalos will be the head coach and Moore will be the head coach.
Yes.
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by iaafan » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:32 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:38 pm
Montanabob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:02 pm
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:27 pm
Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:27 pm
CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:29 am
I joined the Boise State 247 VIP board (hey why not, free 7 day trial). It's all over the place, latest today is that "people in Oregon are hearing Kellen Moore turned the job down but they expect Avalos to accept".
Would be no surprise if Kellen Moore turned the job down. Keep in mind that Kellen might be a hot commodity in the NFL. Yes - the Cowboys sucked most of the season, but that was on their defense. Before Dak went out for the season and Zeke got banged up, the Cowboys had the NFL's number one offense. They just couldn't stop anybody. They're still one of the best offenses in the NFC. Kellen knows what he's doing. If he is gonna move down to college from the NFL, it's gonna have to be a bigger job than the Boise job. He might actually actually get his name thrown around in the NFL off-season as a possible head coach, or assistant coach. He has bigger opportunities waiting for him in the NFL potentially as opposed to the Boise job...
I agree with all of that as well but I have a little different take. I think he should take this job in a heartbeat and I don't think he has much to lose for all the reasons you listed above. I DO think he's a hot commodity in the NFL. His play calling and offenses have been pretty damn good. He has a chance to go to the college level, make great money at his alma mater, have an opportunity to get the program where it was when he was a player, and get very valuable head coaching experience.
My personal opinion is that even if he doesn't set the world on fire at Boise, he'll still have NFL opportunities down the road. Perhaps even better than those that will present themselves right now because he'll then have head coaching experience as well.
I don't see any way that Kellen Moore ISN'T the head coach at Boise very soon.
I do. MONEY. He'll make more in the NFL and won't have to deal with all the administration of NCAA crap.
Well not if the info on his current deal with the Cowboys is correct. It's obviously incentivized but I believe his base salary is only 70 something grand. I can't imagine even with bonuses that he's much higher than 100k. I'd think he'd make far more as the head coach of Boise St. College head coaches make more than NFL coordinators all over the place, so I guess I just assumed this would be the case.
I'll admit that if those numbers aren't correct, and he's making more with the Cowboys than he would at Boise than it may not make sense. But even then, I'd think Boise wants him bad enough where that wouldn't be the case.
The average NFL coordinators make $1 million/year. It would be pretty easy for Jones to keep Moore. I think BSU HC makes around $1.3 million.