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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am

nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by 84CatGrad » Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:37 am

No. We are not concerned.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by nanacat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:43 am

SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.
Oh interesting. Hadn't seen that.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by Cataholic » Sun Jan 18, 2026 11:18 am

There are still 1,600+ FBS and another 1,700+ FCS players still in the portal with no commitment. Why would MSU want to rush into anything? The Gris has picked a couple FBS guys that have close to no snaps at that level. I am okay waiting to fill specific needs with guys that were seeking G5 offers that never materialized. MSU is looking like an ideal option when the dust settles. Lamson is a great example.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by MrGoodKat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 2:45 pm

Not racing to the portal and winning the high school recruiting battle are linked.

High schoolers, especially from MT, are drawn to MSU in part because they know that they’re not going to get immediately replaced.

For counter-examples, see Clay Oven, Kash Goicoechea, and Isaac Keim, all of whom were highly regarded in state recruits and who, to this point, have been behind transfers.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by RangeCat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:50 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:43 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.
Oh interesting. Hadn't seen that.

Well...this could mean that Michael Wortham is getting an extra year of eligibility.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:52 pm

We brought in 5 transfers up until the summer last year and won the National Championship. This year we have even less holes. Look for some support to be brought in at corner, along the DL, and at WR. That's about it.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by catatac » Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:34 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:52 pm
We brought in 5 transfers up until the summer last year and won the National Championship. This year we have even less holes. Look for some support to be brought in at corner, along the DL, and at WR. That's about it.
As I look at all the position groups... I would love to see a total stud safety to back up Caden if Vigen can find one - or perhaps somebody on the roster is going to develop enough between now and the Fall to be a lot closer to the ability that Caden possesses. I'm not here to throw any specific players under the bus but I think it was clear there was a pretty big drop between Caden and everyone else.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:48 pm

catatac wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:34 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:52 pm
We brought in 5 transfers up until the summer last year and won the National Championship. This year we have even less holes. Look for some support to be brought in at corner, along the DL, and at WR. That's about it.
As I look at all the position groups... I would love to see a total stud safety to back up Caden if Vigen can find one - or perhaps somebody on the roster is going to develop enough between now and the Fall to be a lot closer to the ability that Caden possesses. I'm not here to throw any specific players under the bus but I think it was clear there was a pretty big drop between Caden and everyone else.
I get what you're saying but you aren't getting a safety to transfer here when there is no shot to start over Caden. You best develop from within with high school talent. Currently the Cats have done just that. Colter Petre made incredible gains from his redshirt freshman to sophomore season. If he takes another step, we are in good hands. Here is the safety depth behind/around Caden:

SS - Colter Petre (junior in 2026)
FS - Taki Uluilakepa (junior in 2026)
FS/NB - Bryant Meredith (junior in 2026)
FS/SS/NB - JJ Dolan (junior in 2026)
FS/SS - Brendon Ross (sophomore in 2026)
SS - Hayden Gunlock (redshirt frosh in 2026)
FS/SS/NB - Tim Thomas II (redshirt frosh in 2026)
NB - Luke Oxarart (redshirt frosh in 2026)

Didn't list Tayden Gray because he's really only played NB but I think he could move back there in a pinch. The other player to watch this spring is Mason Dethman. There have been conversations about having him start to develop at SS or NB and at 6'4", 205 lbs. along with a great year on special teams, we might have the #1 competition for Colter Petre already on the roster. Brendon Ross will also be tough to keep off the field this spring/fall.

If there is a transfer out there who wants to sit behind Caden, bring him in but we have a lot of freshman, sophomores, and juniors chomping at the bit to take his spot in a year.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by onceacat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:53 pm

catatac wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:34 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:52 pm
We brought in 5 transfers up until the summer last year and won the National Championship. This year we have even less holes. Look for some support to be brought in at corner, along the DL, and at WR. That's about it.
As I look at all the position groups... I would love to see a total stud safety to back up Caden if Vigen can find one - or perhaps somebody on the roster is going to develop enough between now and the Fall to be a lot closer to the ability that Caden possesses. I'm not here to throw any specific players under the bus but I think it was clear there was a pretty big drop between Caden and everyone else.
Yeah, theres a drop off from your All American to his backup. Who, honestly I thought played like an all conf HM when Petre came in. Otherwise, I like Vims answer.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by PapaG » Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:56 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 11:18 am
There are still 1,600+ FBS and another 1,700+ FCS players still in the portal with no commitment. Why would MSU want to rush into anything? The Gris has picked a couple FBS guys that have close to no snaps at that level. I am okay waiting to fill specific needs with guys that were seeking G5 offers that never materialized. MSU is looking like an ideal option when the dust settles. Lamson is a great example.
The Gris literally need a roster and can’t be all that selective. Bobby has picked this to be how that program is run for the rest of his time as coach.

MSU will fill a few holes but the roster is mostly built and next years team won’t miss a beat. Easy choice as preseason #1 and a solid favorite to make Nashville again.

Hauck seems to be panicking to try and stack low-tier FBS talent into a championship FCS team, but I’m hardly an objective. There is a world where they aren’t a top-8 seed and it may be more likely than not. Love it!


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by Montanabob » Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:22 pm

PapaG wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:56 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 11:18 am
There are still 1,600+ FBS and another 1,700+ FCS players still in the portal with no commitment. Why would MSU want to rush into anything? The Gris has picked a couple FBS guys that have close to no snaps at that level. I am okay waiting to fill specific needs with guys that were seeking G5 offers that never materialized. MSU is looking like an ideal option when the dust settles. Lamson is a great example.
The Gris literally need a roster and can’t be all that selective. Bobby has picked this to be how that program is run for the rest of his time as coach.

MSU will fill a few holes but the roster is mostly built and next years team won’t miss a beat. Easy choice as preseason #1 and a solid favorite to make Nashville again.

Hauck seems to be panicking to try and stack low-tier FBS talent into a championship FCS team, but I’m hardly an objective. There is a world where they aren’t a top-8 seed and it may be more likely than not. Love it!
On a side note, most of the paid guns from the portal, have more than one year of eligibility remaining. Now will they stay or do like Suck state and flee.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by AFCAT » Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:36 pm

I’m starting to get concerned that this thread is already at three pages.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by SLC_Cat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:46 pm

RangeCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:50 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:43 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.
Oh interesting. Hadn't seen that.

Well...this could mean that Michael Wortham is getting an extra year of eligibility.
Might also be a product of Justin Green leaving the Griz


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by nanacat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:03 pm

RangeCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:50 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:43 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.
Oh interesting. Hadn't seen that.

Well...this could mean that Michael Wortham is getting an extra year of eligibility.
I thought Worthem was done done



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by wbtfg » Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:27 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:03 pm
RangeCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:50 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:43 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.
Oh interesting. Hadn't seen that.

Well...this could mean that Michael Wortham is getting an extra year of eligibility.
I thought Worthem was done done
Who knows anymore?



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by MSU01 » Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:30 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:03 pm
I thought Worthem was done done
He's done as of now, 2 years of JC ball plus 2 years at EWU and the only reason he was able to play this past season was because of the NCAA injunction on JC eligibility as a result of the Diego Pavia lawsuit. Who knows what additional legal rulings might come down between now and next season. But I think it would be reading way too much into it to speculate that this player's decision to change his mind has anything to do with Michael Wortham specifically. It's easy to see the draw for a player at that position to want to play for DeSean Jackson as his head coach.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:31 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:22 pm
PapaG wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 4:56 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 11:18 am
There are still 1,600+ FBS and another 1,700+ FCS players still in the portal with no commitment. Why would MSU want to rush into anything? The Gris has picked a couple FBS guys that have close to no snaps at that level. I am okay waiting to fill specific needs with guys that were seeking G5 offers that never materialized. MSU is looking like an ideal option when the dust settles. Lamson is a great example.
The Gris literally need a roster and can’t be all that selective. Bobby has picked this to be how that program is run for the rest of his time as coach.

MSU will fill a few holes but the roster is mostly built and next years team won’t miss a beat. Easy choice as preseason #1 and a solid favorite to make Nashville again.

Hauck seems to be panicking to try and stack low-tier FBS talent into a championship FCS team, but I’m hardly an objective. There is a world where they aren’t a top-8 seed and it may be more likely than not. Love it!
On a side note, most of the paid guns from the portal, have more than one year of eligibility remaining. Now will they stay or do like Suck state and flee.
In general, transfers tend to be easy come, easy go. So if they come in, have success, they're more likely to leave imo. They've already done it once, so doing it again isn't a huge stretch. Obviously you'll get some like Lamson that don't, but this is just my general thoughts on it.



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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by RangeCat » Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:43 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:27 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:03 pm
RangeCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:50 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:43 am
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:34 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:02 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:51 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:35 pm
If the grisLLies had been on the other side would they have been able to take down the Redbirds? I really doubt it.
Couple of their incoming transfers are bailing..... Delaware state and a hhb school.....
Do you mean the grisLLies have already lost two transfers? Maybe they found out about the “dumpster fire” over the hill (maybe I am exaggerating a bit)…
They're seriously getting decommitments?
Their prized possession portal transfer who was going to be the next Junior Wortham dropped his commitment.
Oh interesting. Hadn't seen that.

Well...this could mean that Michael Wortham is getting an extra year of eligibility.
I thought Worthem was done done
Who knows anymore?
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Heard on Colter’s show that he MAY be trying to get a waiver. He was a JUCO at before EWU so maybe that’s what it is. I really don’t know anymore.


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Re: Are we concerned?

Post by GoCats18 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 4:37 am

Very concerned…when dudes are decommitting from U of M to go to Delaware State, I think there could be some major issues there. Haha!!!


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