Portal Recruits

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Here's an idea...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS0yIlbF ... tyMm9nZg==

I love this. I would only add one thing. He suggests one freebie transfer. And also talked about these 4 school transfers without a degree. So I say one free transfer, until you graduate, then you can have one more. So you can transfer twice, but you have to have a degree. It puts the importance of school back in play.

You do realize cal is flat out lying. When you transfer you have to have certain amount of credits to be eligible to play, plus these kids take dinner school as well. These kids are graduating. He just ways to stock pile kids.... when a coach leaves a evil for more money do they have to sit out a year, if it's their second job? If they get fired do they have to sit out? See what cal isn't talking about is these coaches push kids out so what about those kids that are basically made to go in the portal? Is fine the way it is... yes you are going to lose kids every year, so what... learn how to evaluate and keep kids on your team...

I would agree with you if you concede that both the coach and players have a job. Pro teams don't have the same kind of turnover college coaches are expected to deal with. Also need to remember it is a small % of teams paying and players that are getting life changing money. Most athletes are D3, D2, NAIA, FCS, and low level FBS.

Something I have not understood. If argument is they should make that money. Why do players at Alabama for example, who start and are obviously making money, transferring. It's not money, its not playing time?

You gotta remember that these guys are 18-22 years old. Teenagers & dudes in their early 20s aren't exactly known for making the best decisions.

Of course, it's not just players. Ole Miss (reportedly) matched Lane Kiffens offer from LSU, but Kiffen decided to abandon a team that could win a championship for a rebuild at a near .500 team. If its not about winning a championship, and its not about money, its hard to tell exactly what it is that is motivating these guys.

It is his career. It isn't a career for 99% of athletes.

Not sure what your point is.

You are comparing Kiffin, a coach, to players moving and taking better offers. One has a career and the others don't. I don't think they are comparable.

So it's different to take a better JOB offer than to take a sideways CAREER offer? A handful of these guys are going to make a career of football, are the standards for them transferring different?

Again, I don't really understand how it's different for a 45 year old coach to make a job change for no net financial benefit, but it's not OK for a student to do so...simply because its a 5 year job and not a lifetime career?

Doesn't make any sense.

Are they student athletes or pros. One is a career and one not. Small % will make it a career. Until they make them employees I just don't agree with the process. My overall point is there are 1000s in the portal that are not improving their situation. A minority do so the fallacy is out there it is a gain or benefit for all my point was those who are already set up well with income and playing time. What is their benefit. Your example Kiffin is likely making more money, but if neutral is still moving to spot with more prestige and deeper pockets to help him recruit in future years.

So if a non athlete wants to go to another school what is your stance? There are no penalties for a non athlete to go to add many different schools as they want, so why are we caring about what the athlete does? Seems like we are holding the athlete to a higher standard than anyone else including staff members. Doesn't make sense at all

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Here's an idea...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS0yIlbF ... tyMm9nZg==

I love this. I would only add one thing. He suggests one freebie transfer. And also talked about these 4 school transfers without a degree. So I say one free transfer, until you graduate, then you can have one more. So you can transfer twice, but you have to have a degree. It puts the importance of school back in play.

You do realize cal is flat out lying. When you transfer you have to have certain amount of credits to be eligible to play, plus these kids take dinner school as well. These kids are graduating. He just ways to stock pile kids.... when a coach leaves a evil for more money do they have to sit out a year, if it's their second job? If they get fired do they have to sit out? See what cal isn't talking about is these coaches push kids out so what about those kids that are basically made to go in the portal? Is fine the way it is... yes you are going to lose kids every year, so what... learn how to evaluate and keep kids on your team...

I mean, they only have to take 12 credits a semester, which is basically a half time load. There are a lot of these guys who aren't on track to graduate in 5 years (although a bunch of them do...it's a really mixed bag).

But you are also correct about coaches silent cutting guys in order to try to bring in an upgrade.

I personally think they should just abandon the absurd pretense that these guys are students & accept that (at least at the top level) these guys, in fact, "Dont go to real school or take real classes" to paraphrase something from another thread.

Ok I have a degree from a top 15 school in the nation and NOBODY was taking 24credits a semester. Please explain to me how 12credits is a HALF LOAD when 15,as I remember, was a normal load. 12 credits is what you need to be considered aa full time student so again I don't see how 12 is a half load.

12 credits each semester keeps you eligible and is you're doing that you are on track to graduate in 5yrs.. I know cause I did it. So again how are eligible to play players not in track to graduate especially when they take summer school every summer. I graduated taking 12 credits and we weren't allowed summer school, so I know for a fact that it's done.

I find it absurd that you believe these guys even at the top level don't go to real school. They actually do go to class and they do take real classes. I have former athletes that went to bama, graduated in 3yrs got an MBA his final 2yrs for drafted in the 3rd....I have friends that went to Texas, got their undergrad while playing didn't get drafted and are working as bankers. This fallacy that because you're a high profile athlete at a Culebra so you don't go to school is highly disturbing. These athletes deserve more respect than that. And if you really want to get into it...msu is no different than an sec school... so if you're talking down on players at the highest level you're talking down on msu players, which I find to be very disturbing and unneeded.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Best of luck to Jon - I hope he gets his shot! Also, I hope he knows that MSU is Division 1. Minor detail, but a slight pet peeve of mine.

Me, too! Drives me crazy.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Pinnick portalling now.

I just fail anymore to get too excited about these great underclass players that we are going to have a problem with for four years. Never happens anymore. If the ‘Cats can figure out how to keep their current model rolling, they should be able to rep the Big Sky for years and years.

[NCagalum]

Turns out to be a smart move to get Lamson. Smart kid with some experience and not going to portal (I think he has another year?). With a young redshirt freshman as talented as Pinnick under a QB whisperer like Plough - we all knew that he would not be around until graduation and most were hoping for at least one more year. These days are just crazy in college football.

[GrizgradCatFan]

How long till we start hearing the guys leaving. I hope if they gonna do it they do it right away. Rip the bandaid and let's start getting ready for next year.

[jgrilley406]

I think with how much the announcers kept emphasizing that the cats only had 9 seniors on this team throughout the game, I think some portal transfers are gonna be knocking on the cats door to come play for a championship contender next year.

[onceacat]

Here's an idea...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS0yIlbF ... tyMm9nZg==

I love this. I would only add one thing. He suggests one freebie transfer. And also talked about these 4 school transfers without a degree. So I say one free transfer, until you graduate, then you can have one more. So you can transfer twice, but you have to have a degree. It puts the importance of school back in play.

You do realize cal is flat out lying. When you transfer you have to have certain amount of credits to be eligible to play, plus these kids take dinner school as well. These kids are graduating. He just ways to stock pile kids.... when a coach leaves a evil for more money do they have to sit out a year, if it's their second job? If they get fired do they have to sit out? See what cal isn't talking about is these coaches push kids out so what about those kids that are basically made to go in the portal? Is fine the way it is... yes you are going to lose kids every year, so what... learn how to evaluate and keep kids on your team...

I mean, they only have to take 12 credits a semester, which is basically a half time load. There are a lot of these guys who aren't on track to graduate in 5 years (although a bunch of them do...it's a really mixed bag).

But you are also correct about coaches silent cutting guys in order to try to bring in an upgrade.

I personally think they should just abandon the absurd pretense that these guys are students & accept that (at least at the top level) these guys, in fact, "Dont go to real school or take real classes" to paraphrase something from another thread.

Ok I have a degree from a top 15 school in the nation and NOBODY was taking 24credits a semester. Please explain to me how 12credits is a HALF LOAD when 15,as I remember, was a normal load. 12 credits is what you need to be considered aa full time student so again I don't see how 12 is a half load.

12 credits each semester keeps you eligible and is you're doing that you are on track to graduate in 5yrs.. I know cause I did it. So again how are eligible to play players not in track to graduate especially when they take summer school every summer. I graduated taking 12 credits and we weren't allowed summer school, so I know for a fact that it's done.

I find it absurd that you believe these guys even at the top level don't go to real school. They actually do go to class and they do take real classes. I have former athletes that went to bama, graduated in 3yrs got an MBA his final 2yrs for drafted in the 3rd....I have friends that went to Texas, got their undergrad while playing didn't get drafted and are working as bankers. This fallacy that because you're a high profile athlete at a Culebra so you don't go to school is highly disturbing. These athletes deserve more respect than that. And if you really want to get into it...msu is no different than an sec school... so if you're talking down on players at the highest level you're talking down on msu players, which I find to be very disturbing and unneeded.

There are guys that take academics seriously, and there are guys that don’t.

I’m not sure when this became a point where people get their panties in a bunch.

[CaturdayClack]

With those performances on that stage....who gets big money? I hope they all stay and try to run it back next year.

[NewEra]

I have no inside knowledge but my guess is we loose 6-10 guys to the FBS. I thought that before last night but now with how much publicity this game has received their offers probably just got bigger. We should be able to reload though. Hopefully we can retain taco. I’m now worried about loosing Steele. Hopefully his close roots to Montanan being from Wyoming keeps him here another year

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Rest easy Bobcat fans, because we are in great shape. We might not lose as many guys this time around! There will be some surprises, but this is my prediction for who goes and who stays despite being offered big money...

Out ($ is how much will likely be offered)
- Braden Zimmer - $$$
- Cedric Jefferson - $$
- Carson Williams - $$
- Tayden Grey - $
- Seth Johnson - $

Staying
Lamson - $$$
Taco - $$$
Adam Jones - $$
Flieshman - $$
Crews - $$
Caden - $$
Steele - $
Woods - $
Mastel - $
Taylor - $
McMillan - $

Winning Championships will help with retention. NDSU did it last year and hardly lost a soul to the portal besides that one Saftey that ditched them for Texas Tech before the playoffs were over.

After winning a title, it brings a team even closer together, and they will want to chase that high of winning a championship next year as well! All indications have been that most of our MT guys will stay, and Lamson isn't going anywhere Vigen is not. Talked to the Crews family before the game, I know money talks, but it sounds like those Sentinel boys are staying (Jones, Crews). Even if we do lose dudes, we will be fine! There will be even more dudes knocking on our door in the portal desperately trying to join this team!

[CodyCat]

Rest easy Bobcat fans, because we are in great shape. We might not lose as many guys this time around! There will be some surprises, but this is my prediction for who goes and who stays despite being offered big money...

Out ($ is how much will likely be offered)
- Braden Zimmer - $$$
- Cedric Jefferson - $$
- Carson Williams - $$
- Tayden Grey - $
- Seth Johnson - $

Staying
Lamson - $$$
Taco - $$$
Adam Jones - $$
Flieshman - $$
Crews - $$
Caden - $$
Steele - $
Woods - $
Mastel - $
Taylor - $
McMillan - $

Winning Championships will help with retention. NDSU did it last year and hardly lost a soul to the portal besides that one Saftey that ditched them for Texas Tech before the playoffs were over.

After winning a title, it brings a team even closer together, and they will want to chase that high of winning a championship next year as well! All indications have been that most of our MT guys will stay, and Lamson isn't going anywhere Vigen is not. Talked to the Crews family before the game, I know money talks, but it sounds like those Sentinel boys are staying (Jones, Crews). Even if we do lose dudes, we will be fine! There will be even more dudes knocking on our door in the portal desperately trying to join this team!

Totally agree. I’m just glad no one portaled on Jan2nd when it opened. Whoever goes, huge thank you. Just provides opportunity for other studs.

[mtdoc]

I think Zimmer stays and puts on another 20-30 lbs, plays for another NC next year and gets a bigger, better offer after next year. The kid just turned 20 this last week!

[MSU01]

Every team will have transfers. MSU showed this season that it's nothing to get too upset about. As long as Vigen is on the sidelines and Lamson is at QB in 2026 MSU is immediately one of the favorites to win the national championship again.

[AFCAT]

Wasting no time.

[RyeCat]

Wasting no time.

I thought they might at least get home first.

[CodyCat]

Wasting no time.

I’m already excited for who fills in behind him.

[MSU01]

Wasting no time.

I thought they might at least get home first.

Guessing some of the players headed back to their hometowns if they're transferring or for a few days with family before classes start next week.

[SparkCat]

Wasting no time.

I thought they might at least get home first.

I’d rather they rip the bandaid off. This allows for our coaches and players to know who the next man up is and the gaps that need filled

[tetoncat]

Wasting no time.

No surprise based on his tweets. Didn't think he had a great game, except the big hit on QB.