I had no idea those two were going to be on this show. I was hesitant to click on it because so many of these podcasts are so lame. What a pleasant surprise. FCS CheckDown is a good podcast.kwcat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 10:12 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/live/N5uQJKjuGx ... T6TkO3-R-o
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Illinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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I was listening to one podcast today, can't remember which one, but they mentioned Rittenhouse's interception numbers this season. We all know he threw 5 vs NDSU and they still won somehow, but whoever it was I was listening to, (several today, lol) said something about that potentially being a big factor in this game if the Cats take the ball away alot.
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He was really clean for most of the season. He came into week 13 having thrown 4 INT’s total.nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:40 pmI was listening to one podcast today, can't remember which one, but they mentioned Rittenhouse's interception numbers this season. We all know he threw 5 vs NDSU and they still won somehow, but whoever it was I was listening to, (several today, lol) said something about that potentially being a big factor in this game if the Cats take the ball away alot.
In the five games since, he’s thrown 8 total interceptions, including at least one in every playoff game.
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Ya, I thought it showed 12 so farMrGoodKat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:11 pmHe was really clean for most of the season. He came into week 13 having thrown 4 INT’s total.nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:40 pmI was listening to one podcast today, can't remember which one, but they mentioned Rittenhouse's interception numbers this season. We all know he threw 5 vs NDSU and they still won somehow, but whoever it was I was listening to, (several today, lol) said something about that potentially being a big factor in this game if the Cats take the ball away alot.
In the five games since, he’s thrown 8 total interceptions, including at least one in every playoff game.
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Looks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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ISU's defense is more like what MSU ran under Choate, more of a 43 with a buck or a 34 with a jack. I is nothing like um's version of the 335. the plan is to load the box and stop the run, make you beat them with the pass.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:36 pmLooks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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This is exactly what they did against NDSU. There was nothing to be had on the ground and the long ball wasn’t there either. Payton was smothered and they didn’t even attempt any screen passes, quick outs or anything that looked outside their normal game plan.cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:09 amISU's defense is more like what MSU ran under Choate, more of a 43 with a buck or a 34 with a jack. I is nothing like um's version of the 335. the plan is to load the box and stop the run, make you beat them with the pass.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:36 pmLooks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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What seems weird about that game is NDSU didn't attack the edges very much, and Peyton stayed in the pocket and was reluctant to run. I think NDSU thought they would win with 3 yards and a cloud of dust, ISU caught a couple breaks late in the game and took it.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:16 amThis is exactly what they did against NDSU. There was nothing to be had on the ground and the long ball wasn’t there either. Payton was smothered and they didn’t even attempt any screen passes, quick outs or anything that looked outside their normal game plan.cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:09 amISU's defense is more like what MSU ran under Choate, more of a 43 with a buck or a 34 with a jack. I is nothing like um's version of the 335. the plan is to load the box and stop the run, make you beat them with the pass.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:36 pmLooks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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Why would they change anything? They had the game well in hand until they didn't. Vigen better keep his foot on the gas if we get a lead because they can score quick.cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:21 amWhat seems weird about that game is NDSU didn't attack the edges very much, and Peyton stayed in the pocket and was reluctant to run. I think NDSU thought they would win with 3 yards and a cloud of dust, ISU caught a couple breaks late in the game and took it.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:16 amThis is exactly what they did against NDSU. There was nothing to be had on the ground and the long ball wasn’t there either. Payton was smothered and they didn’t even attempt any screen passes, quick outs or anything that looked outside their normal game plan.cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:09 amISU's defense is more like what MSU ran under Choate, more of a 43 with a buck or a 34 with a jack. I is nothing like um's version of the 335. the plan is to load the box and stop the run, make you beat them with the pass.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:36 pmLooks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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Better be able to score quick when you only need to go 41 and 23 to get in the end zone. I'm not knocking ISU but if you told me I was going to be down 14 with 4:31 to go but that I'd only need 64 (67 counting 2-point) yards to get 15 points, I'd be a tad encouraged.technoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 10:43 amWhy would they change anything? They had the game well in hand until they didn't. Vigen better keep his foot on the gas if we get a lead because they can score quick.cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:21 amWhat seems weird about that game is NDSU didn't attack the edges very much, and Peyton stayed in the pocket and was reluctant to run. I think NDSU thought they would win with 3 yards and a cloud of dust, ISU caught a couple breaks late in the game and took it.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:16 amThis is exactly what they did against NDSU. There was nothing to be had on the ground and the long ball wasn’t there either. Payton was smothered and they didn’t even attempt any screen passes, quick outs or anything that looked outside their normal game plan.cats2506 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:09 amISU's defense is more like what MSU ran under Choate, more of a 43 with a buck or a 34 with a jack. I is nothing like um's version of the 335. the plan is to load the box and stop the run, make you beat them with the pass.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:36 pmLooks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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Vigen says it's a 3-4-4TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:36 pmLooks more like a 3-4-4. The depth chart has three DL, a Jack, who is LB sized and three LBs, four DBs.bpcats20 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 6:21 pmIllinois State offensive line is a typical Missouri Valley line.
From all reports the Illinois State runs a 3-3-5 which we typically can gash in run game, but bigger issue they it sounds like they have a couple 300 lb DT that clog up lanes and let Niekamp run all over.
Like the Griz with Gubner. Our offensive game plan will have to work its way around that.
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I feel like most picked MSU last year too. Hopefully, this isn’t the kids of death.rfischer94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 1:16 pm14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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Kids of death are really scary.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:20 pmI feel like most picked MSU last year too. Hopefully, this isn’t the kids of death.rfischer94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 1:16 pm14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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Children of the corn are the scariest!allcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:48 pmKids of death are really scary.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:20 pmI feel like most picked MSU last year too. Hopefully, this isn’t the kids of death.rfischer94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 1:16 pm14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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I was wondering if that was the case. I was too lazy to look up last year's article!RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:20 pmI feel like most picked MSU last year too. Hopefully, this isn’t the kids of death.rfischer94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 1:16 pm14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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It's basically what that Weapons movie was aboutallcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:48 pmKids of death are really scary.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:20 pmI feel like most picked MSU last year too. Hopefully, this isn’t the kids of death.rfischer94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 1:16 pm14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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Re: Illinois State
Saw that Michelle Williams of Destiny's Child is an ISU alum and immediately thought of this clip
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"She is arguably the third best child of destiny"
Also fun fact Michelle Williams from Dawson's Creek was born in Kalispell.
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"She is arguably the third best child of destiny"
Also fun fact Michelle Williams from Dawson's Creek was born in Kalispell.
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It’s really been that kind of day.damnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 5:23 pmIt's basically what that Weapons movie was aboutallcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:48 pmKids of death are really scary.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:20 pmI feel like most picked MSU last year too. Hopefully, this isn’t the kids of death.rfischer94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 1:16 pm14 of 16 choose the Cats. Many of them think it's not close.
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