If I'm remembering correctly... according to Schmidt the strength coach chose to leave because Bobbi kept meddling in the strength program.lutecat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 7:41 pmStrength and conditioning coach was let go by.....Bobby Hauck.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:38 pmYes, and their strength coach was at UM under Stitt. Pretty sure Niekamp was their LB coach. Semore was their DC. He’s now the DC at Southern Miss.
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He didn’t try to move outside the pocket against ISU much at all. I do remember now that they had used him for running previously in addition to Miller.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 8:11 pmCole Payton ran for just shy of 800 yards this year.
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NDSU had 407 yards and averaged 8.1 yards per play in the first game. 179 and 3.9 in the playoffs. What happened?
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According to their depth chart it looks like a 3-4-4.
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That was his first tenure.SLC_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 8:24 pmIf I'm remembering correctly... according to Schmidt the strength coach chose to leave because Bobbi kept meddling in the strength program.lutecat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 7:41 pmStrength and conditioning coach was let go by.....Bobby Hauck.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:38 pmYes, and their strength coach was at UM under Stitt. Pretty sure Niekamp was their LB coach. Semore was their DC. He’s now the DC at Southern Miss.
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Copy that... My badBelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:56 pmThat was his first tenure.SLC_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 8:24 pmIf I'm remembering correctly... according to Schmidt the strength coach chose to leave because Bobbi kept meddling in the strength program.lutecat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 7:41 pmStrength and conditioning coach was let go by.....Bobby Hauck.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:38 pmYes, and their strength coach was at UM under Stitt. Pretty sure Niekamp was their LB coach. Semore was their DC. He’s now the DC at Southern Miss.
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ISU threw five interceptions and had two losses on downs. The offense did not need to produce a lot for north of the state and did even less as ISU did a really good job containing Peyton on the line.
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They contained everything after NDSU’s first play. The question is how?kwcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 12:03 amISU threw five interceptions and had two losses on downs. The offense did not need to produce a lot for north of the state and did even less as ISU did a really good job containing Peyton on the line.
Ndsu only completed 6 passes for 120 yards and 78 came on the first offensive play of the game. After that they had 42 yards passing, 59 rushing (2.2 per rush) and 101 yards of total offense.
Ndsu had 9 out of 13 possessions with 4 plays or less. 7 punts, 2 fumbles. Longest drive of that set was 15 yards.
Two touchdown drives were 1 play drives with one set up by INT on the 4-yard line. Other 2 TDs were punt and INT returns.
The #1 offense (7.3 per play) in the nation with the #1 QB (193.7) is completely shut down after its first play by the #5 defense in the MVFC. The same defense that allowed 455 yards and lost to S. Illinois 37-7 two weeks earlier at home and gave up 533 yards a week later.
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Fine. I’ll watch both the NDSU and UCD games againTomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:10 amThey contained everything after NDSU’s first play. The question is how?kwcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 12:03 amISU threw five interceptions and had two losses on downs. The offense did not need to produce a lot for north of the state and did even less as ISU did a really good job containing Peyton on the line.
Ndsu only completed 6 passes for 120 yards and 78 came on the first offensive play of the game. After that they had 42 yards passing, 59 rushing (2.2 per rush) and 101 yards of total offense.
Ndsu had 9 out of 13 possessions with 4 plays or less. 7 punts, 2 fumbles. Longest drive of that set was 15 yards.
Two touchdown drives were 1 play drives with one set up by INT on the 4-yard line. Other 2 TDs were punt and INT returns.
The #1 offense (7.3 per play) in the nation with the #1 QB (193.7) is completely shut down after its first play by the #5 defense in the MVFC. The same defense that allowed 455 yards and lost to S. Illinois 37-7 two weeks earlier at home and gave up 533 yards a week later.
Payton may have been hobbled even if it wasn’t visibly obvious. He didn’t try to move outside the pocket much and there was no rhythm on offense at all. It kind of had the same vibe as MSU/Yale…with 5 interceptions tossed in for fun. What was puzzling is that there seemed to be no offensive in game adjustments made. Granted, NDSU had led by 7 or 14 the entire game and been winning the defensive battle enough to offset their offensive woes.
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Looking at the players they had on the field vs Nova it looked like that as well. One OLB always lined up to the boundary and was the one that walked up to make a 4 man front more often. The Field LB would walk up if the slot motioned away. I could see them lining up in a 5 man front vs our 12 and 13 personnel sets.
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Thanks, this is more along the lines of what I was looking for.RyeCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:18 amFine. I’ll watch both the NDSU and UCD games againTomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:10 amThey contained everything after NDSU’s first play. The question is how?kwcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 12:03 amISU threw five interceptions and had two losses on downs. The offense did not need to produce a lot for north of the state and did even less as ISU did a really good job containing Peyton on the line.
Ndsu only completed 6 passes for 120 yards and 78 came on the first offensive play of the game. After that they had 42 yards passing, 59 rushing (2.2 per rush) and 101 yards of total offense.
Ndsu had 9 out of 13 possessions with 4 plays or less. 7 punts, 2 fumbles. Longest drive of that set was 15 yards.
Two touchdown drives were 1 play drives with one set up by INT on the 4-yard line. Other 2 TDs were punt and INT returns.
The #1 offense (7.3 per play) in the nation with the #1 QB (193.7) is completely shut down after its first play by the #5 defense in the MVFC. The same defense that allowed 455 yards and lost to S. Illinois 37-7 two weeks earlier at home and gave up 533 yards a week later.
Payton may have been hobbled even if it wasn’t visibly obvious. He didn’t try to move outside the pocket much and there was no rhythm on offense at all. It kind of had the same vibe as MSU/Yale…with 5 interceptions tossed in for fun. What was puzzling is that there seemed to be no offensive in game adjustments made. Granted, NDSU had led by 7 or 14 the entire game and been winning the defensive battle enough to offset their offensive woes.
If Payton was injured coming into the game that would explain some things. Also, your assertion that NDSU was content doing what it was doing due to being in the lead and making plays on defense is understandable. I agree it's puzzling that they didn't seem to make any in game adjustments on offense.
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Yeah were did this Payton doesn't run thing come from? Its ALL he did last year. The main concern coming into this year was if he could throw. It’s why I think everyone was so surprised his completion percentage was so high.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 8:11 pmCole Payton ran for just shy of 800 yards this year.
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This is pretty much what I thought of Peyton too. but their ISU game was weird, he didn't seem like the same QBtechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 10:59 amYeah were did this Payton doesn't run thing come from? Its ALL he did last year. The main concern coming into this year was if he could throw. It’s why I think everyone was so surprised his completion percentage was so high.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 8:11 pmCole Payton ran for just shy of 800 yards this year.
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Hauck was meddling, please say that isn’t true…SLC_Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 8:24 pmIf I'm remembering correctly... according to Schmidt the strength coach chose to leave because Bobbi kept meddling in the strength program.lutecat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 7:41 pmStrength and conditioning coach was let go by.....Bobby Hauck.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:38 pmYes, and their strength coach was at UM under Stitt. Pretty sure Niekamp was their LB coach. Semore was their DC. He’s now the DC at Southern Miss.
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