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ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by Vamos Gatos Vamos » Mon Dec 29, 2025 11:55 am

Not my work, I saw this on egriz & verified. It's been a rare game where MSU didn't destroy this defensive scheme.



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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by damnyoutuesday » Mon Dec 29, 2025 12:00 pm

3-3-5 works when you have the correct personnel for it (aka adequately sized linemen) that the Griz do not have, and have only had in 2023 when they went to the title game. I'm assuming ISU isn't as stupid as the Griz in that regard



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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by 2015cat » Mon Dec 29, 2025 12:39 pm

From what i've seen, they stem and and jump into multiple fronts quite a bit (only watched part of the Nova game). Could be a small problem with how many false starts we've had the last few weeks.



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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:24 pm

2015cat wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 12:39 pm
From what i've seen, they stem and and jump into multiple fronts quite a bit (only watched part of the Nova game). Could be a small problem with how many false starts we've had the last few weeks.
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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:14 pm

Jake Anderson, 6-5, 295 is a good DT. He was honorable mention this year and second team last year. They had three players on the first and second team from their defense.

Niekamp is a beast at LB. MVFC POY. His dad(?) is the DC.


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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:21 pm

I’m baffled that ISU played so well defensively vs NDSU and didn’t do well vs UC Davis. :shrug:


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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:29 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:21 pm
I’m baffled that ISU played so well defensively vs NDSU and didn’t do well vs UC Davis. :shrug:
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Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:29 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:14 pm
Jake Anderson, 6-5, 295 is a good DT. He was honorable mention this year and second team last year. They had three players on the first and second team from their defense.

Niekamp is a beast at LB. MVFC POY. His dad(?) is the DC.
Niekamp sounds familiar.....wasn't he an assistant at UM under Bob Stitt?

(maybe this is old news...I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere)



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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:38 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:14 pm
Jake Anderson, 6-5, 295 is a good DT. He was honorable mention this year and second team last year. They had three players on the first and second team from their defense.

Niekamp is a beast at LB. MVFC POY. His dad(?) is the DC.
Niekamp sounds familiar.....wasn't he an assistant at UM under Bob Stitt?

(maybe this is old news...I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere)
Yes, and their strength coach was at UM under Stitt. Pretty sure Niekamp was their LB coach. Semore was their DC. He’s now the DC at Southern Miss.



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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by Montanabob » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:45 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:38 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:14 pm
Jake Anderson, 6-5, 295 is a good DT. He was honorable mention this year and second team last year. They had three players on the first and second team from their defense.

Niekamp is a beast at LB. MVFC POY. His dad(?) is the DC.
Niekamp sounds familiar.....wasn't he an assistant at UM under Bob Stitt?

(maybe this is old news...I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere)
Yes, and their strength coach was at UM under Stitt. Pretty sure Niekamp was their LB coach. Semore was their DC. He’s now the DC at Southern Miss.
Niekamp spent two seasons as part of the coaching staff at Montana prior to returning to Illinois State, serving as the Grizzlies’ special teams coordinator and linebackers coach. He joined head coach Bob Stitt’s staff in January of 2016, and in his first season at Montana, Niekamp coached linebacker Josh Buss, who finished the 2016 season as Montana’s leading tackler. Buss posted 20 tackles for loss, a national best among sophomores, and earned a place on the HERO Sports FCS Sophomore Defensive All-America first team.


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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:48 pm

Anyone have a good scouting report on ISU's defense?



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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by seataccat » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:52 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:21 pm
I’m baffled that ISU played so well defensively vs NDSU and didn’t do well vs UC Davis. :shrug:
Maybe it's because UCD has the better offense.


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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:12 pm

kwcat wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:21 pm
I’m baffled that ISU played so well defensively vs NDSU and didn’t do well vs UC Davis. :shrug:
Matchups for one and football is an emotional game number two
Hmm, they gave up 179 to ndsu and 533 to UC Davis. What were the matchup issues?


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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:13 pm

seataccat wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:21 pm
I’m baffled that ISU played so well defensively vs NDSU and didn’t do well vs UC Davis. :shrug:
Maybe it's because UCD has the better offense.
Oh! Yeah! :lol:


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Re: ISU uses the 3-3-5 D

Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:30 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:12 pm
kwcat wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:21 pm
I’m baffled that ISU played so well defensively vs NDSU and didn’t do well vs UC Davis. :shrug:
Matchups for one and football is an emotional game number two
Hmm, they gave up 179 to ndsu and 533 to UC Davis. What were the matchup issues?
Look from where the numbers came. And then UCD did not finish.



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