MSU vs 3-headed monsters

[TomCat88]

MSU has played five games vs three-headed monsters (QB, RB, WR) beginning with UC Davis. Illinois State has a three-headed monster in QB Rittenhouse, RB Dawson and WR Sobkowicz.

UC Davis
Pinnick 22-36-2 234 yards 2 TDs
Fisher 17-79-0 (long 16)
Gbatu 10-80-1

UM 1.0
Ah Yat 23-32-1 186 1 TD
Gillman 15-132-1 (long 52)
Wortham 1-3-0 (3-35-1 rushing)

Yale
Reno 20-35-2 198 1 TD
Pitsenberger 26-124-1 (long 15)
Brown 11-107-1

SFA
Vidlak 26-43-1 242 1 TD
Wimbley 11-75-0 (long 43)
Harris 11-85-0

UM 2.0
Ah Yat 27-42-1 251 1 TD
Gillman 16-106-1 (long 22)
Wortham 8-85-0 (2-7-0 rushing)

Illinois State (averages)
Rittenhouse 18-29-1 203 yards 2.3 TDs (142.4 passer rating)
Dawson (last 8 games) 21-107-1
Sobkowicz 6-78-1.3

MSU has done really well against the quarterbacks (best passer rating was 134.1), the RBs have had good games as have the WRs. Despite that MSU held those teams to 109 points over five games or 21.8 points per game.

ISU RB Dawson has been spectacular in the playoffs with 128 yards per game. In the last three playoff games he's had 137 (69), 148 (21), 155 (26).

[SparkCat]

‘Bring out your broadsword, there's the Hydra; slice his throat and grab his scrot'

[BlueAndGoldNation]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

[Joe Bobcat]

I think the closest comparison to this wide receiver would be the former high Jumper that played for Idaho State, and it seems like there was another tall guy for Idaho State. Another comparison might be northern Colorado stud wide receiver. This guy is bound to get his catches and yards. I’m counting on our DB’s to limit him as best they can and hit him hard and tackle soundly when he does make catches.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Interesting — and Yale was the only team where each of their monsters went over 100 yards. And that, to me, was the scariest of all of these games. Clearly Illinois State presents this same type of threat. Don’t let down.

How has MSU’s three headed monster done in these same games — that being Lamson, Jones+Thomas, and T. Dowler? Does MSU have an advantage with an instant replacement/refresh of the running back head of the Hydra? Cut off that one, it’ll bite you right back.

[RyeCat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

[kwcat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

[lutecat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

Chase Mason doesn't play for NDSU.....

[TomCat88]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

You mean Cole Payton. But, yes, their defense has done some amazing things as well. They held NDSU 4.0 below its average yards per play and 280 below its per game average in Fargo. Their LB Niekamp is a big-time stud.

[kwcat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

Chase Mason doesn't play for NDSU.....

Sorry for the mistake… Cole Peyton
That’s what I get for multitasking this morning and thinking I should already be in Nashville

[94VegasCat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

The plan you suggest is exactly what their fan forum page is saying. They’re saying that the need to give Lamson a ‘welcome to MVFC football’ hit. We shall see.

[kwcat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

The plan you suggest is exactly what their fan forum page is saying. They’re saying that the need to give Lamson a ‘welcome to MVFC football’ hit. We shall see.

They out “physicalled” North Dakota state so I would guess that will be their plan of action

[cat_stache_fever]

‘Bring out your broadsword, there's the Hydra; slice his throat and grab his scrot'

There! the crevasse. Fill it! With your mighty juice...

[RyeCat]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

The plan you suggest is exactly what their fan forum page is saying. They’re saying that the need to give Lamson a ‘welcome to MVFC football’ hit. We shall see.

I’ve watched that NDSU/ISU game twice now and I get why NDSU’s fans complain about the OC. They did out physical Payton and their line but there were no adjustments made to account for what ISU was taking away. NDSU stuck with their regular back and trying to throw down field. Like I said in another thread, I guarantee they have an embarrassment of offensive riches at their disposal and nothing else was tried. Also, Payton didn’t run at all which was out of character. He took sack after sack.

[rfischer94]

quote=SparkCat post_id=941254 time=1766980904 user_id=24348]
‘Bring out your broadsword, there's the Hydra; slice his throat and grab his scrot'
[/quote]

[rfischer94]

This is ISU's standout WR Daniel Sobkowicz's stats over the last 4 years...

2021- 31 Rec - 377yd - 3TD
2023 - 68 Rec - 933yd - 10TD
2024 - 80 Rec - 1108yd - 9TD
2025 - 78 Rec - 1089yd - 18 TD
Total - 257 Rec- 3507yd- 40 TD

Can someone please explain to me how they quietly managed to keep a Cooper Kupp Regen on their roster for his whole career, especially during this modern NIL landscape? Those numbers are absolutely WILD!

We gotta keep this guy under control this game, but that will be a tough task considering he is an elite 6'3 jump ball, do it all, route-running playmaker. We took care of Wortham, but this guy presents an entirely new verticle challenge for our vertically challenged DBs that are all under 6'0. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole Taylor playing a pivitol role in trying to slow him down in coverage with a trailing DB helping him. We did this against Wortham to great effect in both games, it would only make sense that he could be used to help take away Sobkawicz as well...

Sobkawicz is 12th on the FCS all receiving list this year. Wortham and Gbatu were 2 and 3. We kept them both under a hundred yards in our match ups this year. As you pointed out, though, he’s is a giant compared to both. That said, ISU, like UM also has a few other nice WR targets in Dylan Lord (5’9”) and Luke Mailander (5’11”) who was the MVFC freshman of the year.

Of note, NDSU has a very similar defense style as MSU. They held Sobkowicz to 67 yards on 8 receptions in the playoffs. The problem is most of those yards were in the red zone and he had 3 touchdowns.

Bit of a tangential comment, but the biggest thing that I SU did against North Dakota State was suffocate Chase Mason, and eliminate his ability to escape out of the pocket. They spied him off and on and physically punished him.

They will do the same to Lamson I am guessing. There will be several ways in which we can prevent that or handle it.

The plan you suggest is exactly what their fan forum page is saying. They’re saying that the need to give Lamson a ‘welcome to MVFC football’ hit. We shall see.

I am so tired of the MVFC narrative. I hope to god that we smack the doo doo out of this team.