Jareb Ramos

[GoldstoneCat]

I don't think it was a dirty, intentional hit, but it was without a doubt targeting. No doubt about that at all. Textbook targeting.

What happened after the play was as classless () as I've seen. No idea how that didn't get flagged.

I know on the second to last victory kneel their DT Bailey tried to start some ****** and promptly got benched by their coaches, so props to them for that. At the same time, Soloman PooPoo was also trying to get some things going and was left in. They were clearly looking for a fight. Maybe they don't like our chant?

Solomon was dirty and chippy the whole second half.

[lutecat]

I don't think it was a dirty, intentional hit, but it was without a doubt targeting. No doubt about that at all. Textbook targeting.

What happened after the play was as classless () as I've seen. No idea how that didn't get flagged.

I know on the second to last victory kneel their DT Bailey tried to start some ****** and promptly got benched by their coaches, so props to them for that. At the same time, Soloman PooPoo was also trying to get some things going and was left in. They were clearly looking for a fight. Maybe they don't like our chant?

Solomon was dirty and chippy the whole second half.

He threw the punch at fans coming on the field.

[GoldstoneCat]

I don't think it was a dirty, intentional hit, but it was without a doubt targeting. No doubt about that at all. Textbook targeting.

What happened after the play was as classless () as I've seen. No idea how that didn't get flagged.

I know on the second to last victory kneel their DT Bailey tried to start some ****** and promptly got benched by their coaches, so props to them for that. At the same time, Soloman PooPoo was also trying to get some things going and was left in. They were clearly looking for a fight. Maybe they don't like our chant?

Solomon was dirty and chippy the whole second half.

He threw the punch at fans coming on the field.

Must be incredibly frustrating to be a USC guy, transfer to the sticks, and realize you're still not good enough. Who could blame him.

[allcat]

This action and discussion put the whole kumbaya thread about animosity to bed.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

[BOBCATBORN]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

So how do you explain the go to sleep sign that the Gris player did when taco was down. That’s basically saying they put him to sleep, not just a big hit…..

[justafan]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

I watched it live on TV and did not notice much what i would call dirty play thru out the game either...I have rewatched it in full and played over and over the targeting and 100% targeting but the griz player could almost argue he was looking to make sure Taco was ok..the other player who did the "sleep thing" that was worse to me but again it was probably a heat of the battle reaction to a broken up pass..Taco sure is a class act dude told the fans to treat the griz with respect..

[MrGoodKat]

The game overall was clean. Tuliaupupu and Bailey lost their cool at the end during the victory formation, but that’s frustration. Otlewski in particular played hard but was clearly a super good sport.

But no one will convince me the reaction to Taco going down wasn’t egregious. Ramos was not checking on him, he was gloating. Clearly they knew what had just happened given Rausch’s response. They were celebrating an injury. And that is not normal. I have never seen that before, even in Cat-Griz.

I guess that’s what some of their players resort to when they’re getting overwhelmed by a superior team on the road.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

So how do you explain the go to sleep sign that the Gris player did when taco was down. That’s basically saying they put him to sleep, not just a big hit…..

That’s not an uncommon “big hit” celebration. It looks bad in retrospect, but I don’t think it necessarily means he was celebrating an injury. Although it was TJ Rouch right? He maybe hasn’t earned benefit of the doubt tho.

[kwcat]

The game overall was clean. Tuliaupupu and Bailey lost their cool at the end during the victory formation, but that’s frustration. Otlewski in particular played hard but was clearly a super good sport.

But no one will convince me the reaction to Taco going down wasn’t egregious. Ramos was not checking on him, he was gloating. Clearly they knew what had just happened given Rausch’s response. They were celebrating an injury. And that is not normal. I have never seen that before, even in Cat-Griz.

I guess that’s what some of their players resort to when they’re getting overwhelmed by a superior team on the road.

I have a relative whose daughter is pretty good friends with a lot of of the players(from MCC). She said they were actually shocked how bad they got beat and thought they were better. These were comments they made after the game on their way back to Missoula.

I think this carries on and is proven through BH comments in the post game where our coaches got so much out of our players. Missoula is shocked that they brought in so many highly doubted transfers and can’t beat the team over the hill who’s done it right and developing players.We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly. Theirs is. We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly theirs is Band-Aid upon Band-Aid.

[allcat]

The dirty stuff in poles is a part of the game. I just watched a Singleton interview and he says the testicles grabs are the worst, then he modified it to testicle.

[WalkOn79]

Bobby is simply attempting to shape the dialogue and perception. No need to buy in.

Oh no doubt. He has his deciples and most will buy everything he says. By the end of the day the griz will be the much better team and if not for the Cats deliberately hurting their players they would have won by double digits….

All these jokers complaining about hip drop tackles are conveniently forgetting that Julius Davis was put out for the remainder of the season last year at Cat Griz on the same type of tackle. At the time, the Griz all reminded us that it was unfortunate he got hurt but it was legal.

Their lack of short term memory is astounding, isn't it?

[PapaG]

The Griz players celebrating over Taco after the targeting hit was one of the most disgusting acts of sportsmanship i have ever seen. #10 Rauch doing the sleep sign over Taco when it looked like he was knocked out is taunting. I loved it when later in the game Taco made # 10 look like a fool on his 87 yard touchdown. And then Hauck complaining about the targeting call is just priceless.

Wasn’t Rausch sitting next to Bobby at the post-game press conference? Some media member could have directly asked him why he did the “go to sleep” gesture as Dowler was laying on the ground after Bobby’s answer on the penalty. Bobby’s meltdown would have been amazing, but I think the Montana media is actually afraid of Hauck and would never ask that follow-up.

[ilovethecats]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

So how do you explain the go to sleep sign that the Gris player did when taco was down. That’s basically saying they put him to sleep, not just a big hit…..

That’s not an uncommon “big hit” celebration. It looks bad in retrospect, but I don’t think it necessarily means he was celebrating an injury. Although it was TJ Rouch right? He maybe hasn’t earned benefit of the doubt tho.

Couple things on that last part. First, I don’t think it’s a very common celebration. Think I have seen it once before and it wasn’t after a big hit but after a team sealed a win and they basically did it like game over.

However, watch the play again. Rauch was simply near the play. It looked bad immediately and LOOKED like taco might be knocked out. Rauch actually looked back at taco lying on the ground, and only THEN did he do the sleep celebration. It was terrible.

Like nearly everything in this rivalry I’m inclined to forgive the players. They’re young and they’re juiced up. It’s the fans. Griz went on about Julius for two weeks. Calling for a suspension. Saying Cats have no class. It was 100x worse on Twitter and Facebook. It was basically the most disgusting thing any griz fan had ever seen…..

How many comments about Rauch’s behavior? In the end taco got the last laugh beating him like a drum several times. Doesn’t change what he did and there is no uproar from their fanbase. Not even condemning it at all. Like it didn’t happen. Which explains that fanbase in a nutshell. Will pretend to be appalled and any and everything a cat player does; but even a griz player celebrating a player thought to be knocked out won’t warrant even a peep from them.

It’s how it’s always been, and how it always will be. It used to drive me crazy. Now I honestly believe their mindset is only helping our program. Everything they do, they say; the way their fans act and the way their coaches behave, hell, even the way they still run out onto the field is the exact same as it was in 2000. They haven’t realized a quarter of a century has passed. It’s 2000 or 2002 and everything in Missoula is amazing, they have the best and most classy players and fans, they are known as a power throughout the world, and the poor little Cats will never compete. This mentality is the absolute best thing for our program and
I would raise money for Bobby to get a 10yr contract!

[lutecat]

I just rewatched the targeting play and I'm changing my stance. Where I sit I couldn't see depth as well so it looked much worse than I thought after viewing the camera angle from the side. I dont think anything the griz did was inappropriate.

But I was not looking for anything bad when I saw the punch. Just watching the celbration. My buddy in front of me turned around and said "I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw that".

I will say its laughable that I'm literally right now listening to the pre-brawl 2.0 griz fan pod and they are complaining about the closeness of the visitor tunnel to our fans, which is covered, while the griz visiting tunnel is not covered.

[MrGoodKat]

I have a relative whose daughter is pretty good friends with a lot of of the players(from MCC). She said they were actually shocked how bad they got beat and thought they were better. These were comments they made after the game on their way back to Missoula.

I think this carries on and is proven through BH comments in the post game where our coaches got so much out of our players. Missoula is shocked that they brought in so many highly doubted transfers and can’t beat the team over the hill who’s done it right and developing players.We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly. Theirs is. We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly theirs is Band-Aid upon Band-Aid.

They read too much of their own press.

[Montanabob]

The game overall was clean. Tuliaupupu and Bailey lost their cool at the end during the victory formation, but that’s frustration. Otlewski in particular played hard but was clearly a super good sport.

But no one will convince me the reaction to Taco going down wasn’t egregious. Ramos was not checking on him, he was gloating. Clearly they knew what had just happened given Rausch’s response. They were celebrating an injury. And that is not normal. I have never seen that before, even in Cat-Griz.

I guess that’s what some of their players resort to when they’re getting overwhelmed by a superior team on the road.

I have a relative whose daughter is pretty good friends with a lot of of the players(from MCC). She said they were actually shocked how bad they got beat and thought they were better. These were comments they made after the game on their way back to Missoula.

I think this carries on and is proven through BH comments in the post game where our coaches got so much out of our players. Missoula is shocked that they brought in so many highly doubted transfers and can’t beat the team over the hill who’s done it right and developing players.We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly. Theirs is. We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly theirs is Band-Aid upon Band-Aid.

Doubted is so accurate.

[bobcatfan123]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

Absolutely. It was funny after our win in Missoula all the fans remarked about the unclassy behavior from our guys. You have young guys thrust into a gladiatorial arena Infront of thousands of people. Adrenaline and jubilation are things in college football. Give these young guys the benefit of the doubt of being good people.

[WalkOn79]

Here’s a hot take for ya: watching the game live, I thought there was an awful lot of chippiness, a lot of emotion, and not a whole lot of dirtiness. Some of you mentioned you had specific people looking for cheap shots? I’m sorry, if you have someone who’s job it is to look for that stuff so you can get mad about it, you’ll find a lot more things to be mad about than what actually happened. Generally speaking, people find what they’re looking for. For instance, I was looking for good sportsmanship after the game, and I saw plenty of it between the players. Another even hotter take: after taco got targeted, I took it as those players, who needed some juice and energy going their way, celebrating a big hit. LIKE ALMOST EVERY TEAM WOULD. A player isn’t gonna be like, well, that was targeting, I probably shouldn’t celebrate what I think was my teammate making a big play when we needed it. Maybe you could argue standing over a guy who clearly got his bell rung and could be injured is poor sportsmanship, but that happens a lot. Especially in rivalries. I won’t comment on the player swinging at a fan, cuz I didn’t see it. However, of course, if it happened in the way everyone was describing it, there’s absolutely no excuse for that, and that is most definitely poor sportsmanship. However, in general, I don’t think it’s helpful to make everything into the Gris players being the scummiest humans ever. It doesn’t make anything better, and it’s not too far removed from what they’re doing saying we’re dirty just cuz their players got hurt. In my experience, the gris give plenty of opportunities to shake your head at them. But creating extra doesn’t necessarily help. Just my opinion, and of course, I may be wrong.

Absolutely. It was funny after our win in Missoula all the fans remarked about the unclassy behavior from our guys. You have young guys thrust into a gladiatorial arena Infront of thousands of people. Adrenaline and jubilation are things in college football. Give these young guys the benefit of the doubt of being good people.

I missed the Taco hit (I know, bad fan for not being in my seat right away ) But I really didn't see any bad behavior from the players to speak of on either side. Except for the kneel-downs at the end and Bobby (kind of) took care of that.

[RickRund]

The game overall was clean. Tuliaupupu and Bailey lost their cool at the end during the victory formation, but that’s frustration. Otlewski in particular played hard but was clearly a super good sport.

But no one will convince me the reaction to Taco going down wasn’t egregious. Ramos was not checking on him, he was gloating. Clearly they knew what had just happened given Rausch’s response. They were celebrating an injury. And that is not normal. I have never seen that before, even in Cat-Griz.

I guess that’s what some of their players resort to when they’re getting overwhelmed by a superior team on the road.

I have a relative whose daughter is pretty good friends with a lot of of the players(from MCC). She said they were actually shocked how bad they got beat and thought they were better. These were comments they made after the game on their way back to Missoula.

I think this carries on and is proven through BH comments in the post game where our coaches got so much out of our players. Missoula is shocked that they brought in so many highly doubted transfers and can’t beat the team over the hill who’s done it right and developing players.We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly. Theirs is. We do have our transfers and it’s not all negative but the base of our program is built correctly theirs is Band-Aid upon Band-Aid.

Doubted is so accurate.

But I seriously DOUBTED that so many were so highly TOUTED when they signed. You gotta love spell check but sometimes it is perfect.