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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by technoCat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:09 pm

Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:04 pm
technoCat wrote:
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Common Cat wrote:
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I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
Fair. Sneed played well until he threw that int to Konkol. Nonetheless, I don’t see Kay struggling unless MSU disguises coverage and puts him off his spot.
Sorry, I wasn't really clear. I'm not saying that Kay is necessarily going to "struggle" but if he makes just a couple mistakes, like Sneed, this could result in very similar outcomes.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by Common Cat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:24 pm

technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:09 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:04 pm
technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
Fair. Sneed played well until he threw that int to Konkol. Nonetheless, I don’t see Kay struggling unless MSU disguises coverage and puts him off his spot.
Sorry, I wasn't really clear. I'm not saying that Kay is necessarily going to "struggle" but if he makes just a couple mistakes, like Sneed, this could result in very similar outcomes.
I think you’re right.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by catatac » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm

Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by ilovethecats » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:36 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.
Totally agree. And AY is going against a much better defense than Lamson went against.

I think AY is a gamer. He seems like a great leader in addition to a great player. But he hasn’t seen anything like he’ll see both in the environment as well as the defense playing in front of their home crowd. He’s gonna have his work cut out for himself



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by nanacat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:55 pm

ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:36 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.
Totally agree. And AY is going against a much better defense than Lamson went against.

I think AY is a gamer. He seems like a great leader in addition to a great player. But he hasn’t seen anything like he’ll see both in the environment as well as the defense playing in front of their home crowd. He’s gonna have his work cut out for himself
If he's not 100% physically he will struggle. He'll try for sure but if he's hampered by an injury, and the Cats bring a ton of pressure, which they will, it'll be a long day for him.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 5:08 pm

technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
Sneed's ankle was injured for that game.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by technoCat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:38 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 5:08 pm
technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
Sneed's ankle was injured for that game.
Didnt we play him twice?


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:41 pm

technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:38 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 5:08 pm
technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
Sneed's ankle was injured for that game.
Didnt we play him twice?
I'm assuming we're talking about Ah Yat/QBs struggling at Bobcat Stadium. So, just once. Played him the year before in Missoula.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by OldGriz » Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:47 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.
That’s a safe bet (that he will not complete 90%). If the Griz are lucky enough to pull off an upset victory, it will be a high-scoring affair and Ah Yat will have to put the ball in the air a lot. I’d guess the more attempts, the lower the completion rate, in this situation. As for this game being his first in an environment like this, well, he’s played 10 games this season in an environment that is kind of nationally known for its raucousness and decibel level. He’s been in a louder stadium 10 times this year. The difference Saturday will be that he is the QB who has to manage through the noise. As has been noted here by many in the past, a lot of quarterbacks can do that just fine. I’d love to see a sequel to Ah Yat’s old man’s performance from ‘97.



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Post by CodyCat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:11 pm

I think AY will play just fine. The bigger concern for the gris will be how they handle MSUs dline. After trying to drop back and getting sacked twice, they immediately changed to short out routes. I don’t see anything changing in regards to the MSU dline dominating UMs oline.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by BOBCATBORN » Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:14 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:47 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.
That’s a safe bet (that he will not complete 90%). If the Griz are lucky enough to pull off an upset victory, it will be a high-scoring affair and Ah Yat will have to put the ball in the air a lot. I’d guess the more attempts, the lower the completion rate, in this situation. As for this game being his first in an environment like this, well, he’s played 10 games this season in an environment that is kind of nationally known for its raucousness and decibel level. He’s been in a louder stadium 10 times this year. The difference Saturday will be that he is the QB who has to manage through the noise. As has been noted here by many in the past, a lot of quarterbacks can do that just fine. I’d love to see a sequel to Ah Yat’s old man’s performance from ‘97.
And a lot of qb’s don’t do just fine. Time will tell. But it’s going to be a first for him playing in a hostile environment.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:37 pm

UM starting QBs at Bobcat Stadium (MSU D pass eff. rating):
2025 - Ah Yat ?-?-? xxx yards, X TDs (106.6)
2024 - Fife 18-24-0 177 yards, 0 TDs (113.2)
2022 - Johnson 14-23-1 137 yards, 1 TD (138.9)
2019 - Sneed 20-34-1 195 yards, 0 TD (123.4)
2017 - Jensen 30-49-1 326 yards, 1 TD (119.4)
2015 - Gustafson 23-39-1 353 yards, 4 TDs
2013 - Johnson 23-35-0 250 yards, 1 TD
2011 - Johnson 15-31-0 164 yards, 2 TDs
2009 - Selle 17-22-0 163 yards, 3 TDs
2007 - Bergquist 22-33-0 274 yards, 1 TD
2005 -Bergquist 14-33-1 117 yards, 1 TD
2003 - Ochs ?-?-1 151 yards, 1 TD

This year's pass defense rating is one of the best in MSU history. UM's pass offense rating is one of the best in its history. In 2021 the rating was 107.8. That game was in Missoula and Camron Humphrey went 13-22-2, 220 yards and 1 TD.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by catatac » Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:34 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:47 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.
That’s a safe bet (that he will not complete 90%). If the Griz are lucky enough to pull off an upset victory, it will be a high-scoring affair and Ah Yat will have to put the ball in the air a lot. I’d guess the more attempts, the lower the completion rate, in this situation. As for this game being his first in an environment like this, well, he’s played 10 games this season in an environment that is kind of nationally known for its raucousness and decibel level. He’s been in a louder stadium 10 times this year. The difference Saturday will be that he is the QB who has to manage through the noise. As has been noted here by many in the past, a lot of quarterbacks can do that just fine. I’d love to see a sequel to Ah Yat’s old man’s performance from ‘97.
Oh boy!


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Post by OldGriz » Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:29 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:34 pm
Hey everybody, we landed on the moon!
Ah Yat having a dad who was a road winner in a very tight game in Bozeman is the only reason for the reference. Don’t be so crabby. LOL.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by MTnative » Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:41 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:47 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:26 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
We'll see. First time he's ever had to play in an environment like this. He might get rattled and struggle. He might thrive and have an excellent game, like Lamson did on Missoula, although I'd put a lot of money down that KAY does not end up at a 90% completion rate.
That’s a safe bet (that he will not complete 90%). If the Griz are lucky enough to pull off an upset victory, it will be a high-scoring affair and Ah Yat will have to put the ball in the air a lot. I’d guess the more attempts, the lower the completion rate, in this situation. As for this game being his first in an environment like this, well, he’s played 10 games this season in an environment that is kind of nationally known for its raucousness and decibel level. He’s been in a louder stadium 10 times this year. The difference Saturday will be that he is the QB who has to manage through the noise. As has been noted here by many in the past, a lot of quarterbacks can do that just fine. I’d love to see a sequel to Ah Yat’s old man’s performance from ‘97.
Eiden is the real difference. The noise will be a factor but Eiden will absolutely force KAY to make quicker decisions (potentially forcing second reads that KAY isn’t so good at).



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Post by onceacat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:40 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:37 pm
UM starting QBs at Bobcat Stadium (MSU D pass eff. rating):
2025 - Ah Yat ?-?-? xxx yards, X TDs (106.6)
2024 - Fife 18-24-0 177 yards, 0 TDs (113.2)
2022 - Johnson 14-23-1 137 yards, 1 TD (138.9)
2019 - Sneed 20-34-1 195 yards, 0 TD (123.4)
2017 - Jensen 30-49-1 326 yards, 1 TD (119.4)
2015 - Gustafson 23-39-1 353 yards, 4 TDs
2013 - Johnson 23-35-0 250 yards, 1 TD
2011 - Johnson 15-31-0 164 yards, 2 TDs
2009 - Selle 17-22-0 163 yards, 3 TDs
2007 - Bergquist 22-33-0 274 yards, 1 TD
2005 -Bergquist 14-33-1 117 yards, 1 TD
2003 - Ochs ?-?-1 151 yards, 1 TD

This year's pass defense rating is one of the best in MSU history. UM's pass offense rating is one of the best in its history. In 2021 the rating was 107.8. That game was in Missoula and Camron Humphrey went 13-22-2, 220 yards and 1 TD.
That's super interesting. KAY had a passer rating of 134.4 in the Brawl last month, basically better than any of those games listed. And the Pandas still lost pretty soundly. Several wins up there with pretty mediocre QB passing performances.

Of course, this is probably the best defense the cats have ever put on the field.

I'd be shocked in KAY outperforms his game in Missoula. Can the Pandas win if KAY has a sub 130 game? I wouldn't think so, but I guess sometimes funny things happen.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by catatac » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:50 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:29 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:34 pm
Hey everybody, we landed on the moon!
Ah Yat having a dad who was a road winner in a very tight game in Bozeman is the only reason for the reference. Don’t be so crabby. LOL.
I was talking about the comment saying Ah Yat has played in a raucous environment ten times... because ya, it's exactly the same when it's your home crowd. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post by tetoncat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:15 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:29 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:34 pm
Hey everybody, we landed on the moon!
Ah Yat having a dad who was a road winner in a very tight game in Bozeman is the only reason for the reference. Don’t be so crabby. LOL.
I was talking about the comment saying Ah Yat has played in a raucous environment ten times... because ya, it's exactly the same when it's your home crowd. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hey now, he did have to study the tablet on the sidelines when it was loud.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by OldGriz » Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:24 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:29 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:34 pm
Hey everybody, we landed on the moon!
Ah Yat having a dad who was a road winner in a very tight game in Bozeman is the only reason for the reference. Don’t be so crabby. LOL.
I was talking about the comment saying Ah Yat has played in a raucous environment ten times... because ya, it's exactly the same when it's your home crowd. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, I did acknowledge “the difference Saturday will be he’s the QB who will have to manage through the noise.” When I said a month ago Lamson will find it a tad noisy, you guys said, “no problem because he’ll have an ear piece in the helmet.” We’re gonna ride Ah Yat’s earpiece to the moon! LOL



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