The Griz are 1-13

[catatac]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

[OldGriz]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

[BOBCATBORN]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

Yeah, but the Gris are the ones with one coming up. Or did you forget that?

[OldGriz]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

Yeah, but the Gris are the ones with one coming up. Or did you forget that?

Oh, I’m old and scattered, but I haven’t forgotten where the game is Saturday.

[catatac]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

Yeah, but the Gris are the ones with one coming up. Or did you forget that?

Oh, I’m old and scattered, but I haven’t forgotten where the game is Saturday.

Ya, kinda the point. The Cats have lost a lot of road playoff games but the Griz have lost way more. Incredibly tough to pull those off, especially in the semi's, against your bitter rival.

[TomCat88]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

[iaafan]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

Technically a neutral field but um did win at Marshall in 1995. 2-13?

[cats2506]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

How is that relevant, Cats are playing at home if you didn't know

[iaafan]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

How is that relevant, Cats are playing at home if you didn't know

And it supports catatac’s argument: tough to win on the road.

[catatac]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

Wat? Bite your tongue...

[TomCat88]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

Wat? Bite your tongue...

What took you so long?

I thought I'd be hearing a knock on my door by now.

[thefrank1]

We all know that you were playing devil's advocate and trying to stir the pot.

[TomCat88]

We all know that you were playing devil's advocate and trying to stir the pot.

My act has worn out around here.

[thefrank1]

Not really, just a reduced knee jerk response.

[D-Wreck]

We all know that you were playing devil's advocate and trying to stir the pot.

My act has worn out around here.

Not at all Tom! It's just that your shenanigans are cheeky and fun, while the others are just cruel and tragic trolls that have depleted my energy.

[Bobcat Sig]

We all know that you were playing devil's advocate and trying to stir the pot.

My act has worn out around here.

Not at all Tom! It's just that your shenanigans are cheeky and fun, while the others are just cruel and tragic trolls that have depleted my energy.

[Cledus]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

The odds of hitting heads in a coin toss never change no matter how many previous flips were tails. Likewise, um's past road record may be bad but that doesn't improve their chances of winning this time. Smash that like button and follow me for more can't miss statistics.

[cats2506]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

The odds of hitting heads in a coin toss never change no matter how many previous flips were tails. Likewise, um's past road record may be bad but that doesn't improve their chances of winning this time. Smash that like button and follow me for more can't miss statistics.

I like the coin toss thing, but how does it relate to the game that has many more input variables and outcome probabilities

[Cledus]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

The odds of hitting heads in a coin toss never change no matter how many previous flips were tails. Likewise, um's past road record may be bad but that doesn't improve their chances of winning this time. Smash that like button and follow me for more can't miss statistics.

I like the coin toss thing, but how does it relate to the game that has many more input variables and outcome probabilities

The idea that um will win because "they're due" is the gambler's fallacy no matter what variables and inputs are included. It's also the gambler's fallacy to say that MSU will win because Vigen's home record is 39-2, and all the other historical statistics given.

Every objective analysis done by people here point to an MSU win, and I agree. I always thought MSU will win because they're the better team, and I don't need those analyses to convince me. But they do give me something to hang my hat on. I think MSU wins going away by 10+ but what has happened in the past has no bearing on Saturday's outcome.

[TomCat88]

In road playoff games, with the last win vs James Madison in 2008. That's crazy. In Bobby's own words, "Winning is hard. Football is a hard game. If it was easy, they'd call it soccer." Now, let's add to that. So winning is hard. Winning on the road is even harder. Winning on the road in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the SEMI's in the playoffs is even harder. Winning on the road in the semi's, against your bitter rival, is even harder. Winning on the road in the semis against your rival, when they've already proven to be really good since they beat you in your house a month prior... let's just say they have themselves a bit of a challenge on their hands. Not guaranteeing a win by any means, but damn it's going to be tough for them. This will be the craziest, most disruptive environment they've ever played in. I'll be really interested to see if Ay Yat can handle it.

What are the Cats … 1-7 or something like that? Road playoff games are tough.

MSU is 2-7. Has beaten NDSU '76 and SHSU '21 on the road. Lost to McNeese State, No. Iowa, App. State*, SHSU, NDSU*, NDSU*, and SDSU*. * - 4 Nat'l champions.

Yes, road games are tough. UM is due to win one.

The odds of hitting heads in a coin toss never change no matter how many previous flips were tails. Likewise, um's past road record may be bad but that doesn't improve their chances of winning this time. Smash that like button and follow me for more can't miss statistics.

I like the coin toss thing, but how does it relate to the game that has many more input variables and outcome probabilities

The idea that um will win because "they're due" is the gambler's fallacy no matter what variables and inputs are included. It's also the gambler's fallacy to say that MSU will win because Vigen's home record is 39-2, and all the other historical statistics given.

Every objective analysis done by people here point to an MSU win, and I agree. I always thought MSU will win because they're the better team, and I don't need those analyses to convince me. But they do give me something to hang my hat on. I think MSU wins going away by 10+ but what has happened in the past has no bearing on Saturday's outcome.

I was just trying to build up Old Griz. I think that's all he's looking for. Notice he didn't reply?