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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by BlueAndGoldNation » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:46 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:54 pm
kwcat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:15 pm
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Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:04 pm
Took a look at their 2-deep, they're a Senior heavy team. Looks like 12 or 13 Senior starters, about 20 Seniors on the 2-deep.
Can you post the link?
Here's the link to the game notes. Also, I re watched the SFA ACU game tonight and it looks like SFA got hammered with some injuries. 2 starting OL, i starting WR, and a starting corner all went down. I don't know how serious the other ones are but the starting corner went out on a stretcher.

https://sfajacks.com/documents/2025/12/ ... stian_.pdf
Coach Carthel tweeted on Dec 6th that Patterson, the corner that went out on a stretcher, is good to go for our game




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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by kwcat » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:53 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:54 pm
kwcat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:15 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:04 pm
Took a look at their 2-deep, they're a Senior heavy team. Looks like 12 or 13 Senior starters, about 20 Seniors on the 2-deep.
Can you post the link?
Here's the link to the game notes. Also, I re watched the SFA ACU game tonight and it looks like SFA got hammered with some injuries. 2 starting OL, i starting WR, and a starting corner all went down. I don't know how serious the other ones are but the starting corner went out on a stretcher.

https://sfajacks.com/documents/2025/12/ ... stian_.pdf
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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by Catprint » Fri Dec 12, 2025 12:39 am

Late Thursday so putting this in two threads since not much time to read it before Friday night.

Never one to be overly optimistic after a game such as Yale. Just seemed to me we are dismissing the game as a one-off. So i thought a bit about the conference games and first playoff game. My sense was in the last three games the O was not as strong or just off. So here is my chart and observation about the First Six Conference Games and the Last Three Games. Yes, I get it that the competition is tougher in the last three games but I think the defense has held up about the same.

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Observations
1) 21 fewer points per game
2) 125 fewer yards per game
3) About same yards per play. Its just we have fewer plays and time of possession.
4) Biggest stat - Averaging 122 fewer passing yards. All lost yards are from passing. Our run game is generating the same number of yards but the passing attack is almost half as much.

Conclusions? Nothing I would hang my hat on but I see SFA trying to keep this from being a tit for tat high scoring game.
1) I think SFA stacks the box after getting beaten up on the run by ACU last week. They will dare us to pass.
2) They will play lots of man with their top corners and try to keep out anything deep.
3) By stacking the box, they will work to put pressure on Lamson and keep their hands up given we had 3 or 4 tipped passes last week.
4) It will be up to our O line and Davis and Jones to make or break the game.
5) I think our D can keep SFA in the low 20's.

Just my observation. I still think we can run the ball.



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Post by RyeCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 5:02 am

Catprint wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 12:39 am
Late Thursday so putting this in two threads since not much time to read it before Friday night.

Never one to be overly optimistic after a game such as Yale. Just seemed to me we are dismissing the game as a one-off. So i thought a bit about the conference games and first playoff game. My sense was in the last three games the O was not as strong or just off. So here is my chart and observation about the First Six Conference Games and the Last Three Games. Yes, I get it that the competition is tougher in the last three games but I think the defense has held up about the same.

Image

Observations
1) 21 fewer points per game
2) 125 fewer yards per game
3) About same yards per play. Its just we have fewer plays and time of possession.
4) Biggest stat - Averaging 122 fewer passing yards. All lost yards are from passing. Our run game is generating the same number of yards but the passing attack is almost half as much.

Conclusions? Nothing I would hang my hat on but I see SFA trying to keep this from being a tit for tat high scoring game.
1) I think SFA stacks the box after getting beaten up on the run by ACU last week. They will dare us to pass.
2) They will play lots of man with their top corners and try to keep out anything deep.
3) By stacking the box, they will work to put pressure on Lamson and keep their hands up given we had 3 or 4 tipped passes last week.
4) It will be up to our O line and Davis and Jones to make or break the game.
5) I think our D can keep SFA in the low 20's.

Just my observation. I still think we can run the ball.
I agree that it’s difficult to compare the last three games as the competition has been significantly better. To your point about the passing, however, in both the Davis and Yale games, Lamson had a good number of passes batted down. Yale saw that as an opportunity after looking at film. I counted at least four in the Yale game. My guess is that doesn’t happen with the same frequency this game. I did see some adjustments late in the game to his throws against Yale and I’d bet that got some work over the week. The good news is we have a lot of receiving threats to keep the defense honest and open up the run. I do also think we can run. ACU’s QB had a decent day against them scrambling and he’s not a rumbler like Lamson.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by GoldstoneCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am

ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.



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Post by RyeCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:44 am

Confidence is something Texans seem to know something about. I don’t think the term humble brag is in their vocabulary. One thing that has not been brought up at all in discussions is that this is the first year since 2021 that they’ve qualified for the playoffs. Prior to that, it’s been since 2014. This is an up and coming program that has a good coach and they are making investments in the program. That said, this isn’t a blue blood battle tested program that is a regular playoff contender and they drew a team they’d already played for the second round. A team very similar to their style of play. I guess Cinderella stories happen every year and this could be their year. I like our chances to right the ship and we have experience in big games especially at home. Massey predictor says 34-20 Cats. I’ll take those odds.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:29 am

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Axe-Jack SFA. or is it Jack-Axe SFA
We say "Axe'em Jacks"



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by Robert Martin » Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:35 am

Move the game to Billings today for some fun! Just shoveled 8-10 inches out on the Briarwood Golf Course, and it is 9 degrees, that would be fun for the men from Texas! Damn near North Dakota cold



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:40 am

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.
Very true. I definitely see your point(s) due to the historical success of the program. And do admit SFA hasn't faced anyone of this caliber in a long long time. However, I truly think we have the best locker room in the country (I know a lot of people say that). Watch any interview over this past season, and you can see that everyone is willing to take a bullet for anyone in that locker room. There have been no "bad apples" all year long. I know we are only traveling with 60-70 players, but in the regular season when we would dress 110+. Every single player that would not see the field was jumping up and down on the sideline all game long. Each player plays for something bigger than themselves and it's been really wholesome to witness firsthand. A lot, if not all of the credit, goes to HC Colby Carthel. He will have you ready to run through a brick wall. This is the man that took his shirt off in a postgame OT victory celebration 4 years ago. Montana state definitely has the talent and the homefield advantage, but I still believe SFA has the heart to pull out an upset.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by kwcat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:47 am

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:40 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.
Very true. I definitely see your point(s) due to the historical success of the program. And do admit SFA hasn't faced anyone of this caliber in a long long time. However, I truly think we have the best locker room in the country (I know a lot of people say that). Watch any interview over this past season, and you can see that everyone is willing to take a bullet for anyone in that locker room. There have been no "bad apples" all year long. I know we are only traveling with 60-70 players, but in the regular season when we would dress 110+. Every single player that would not see the field was jumping up and down on the sideline all game long. Each player plays for something bigger than themselves and it's been really wholesome to witness firsthand. A lot, if not all of the credit, goes to HC Colby Carthel. He will have you ready to run through a brick wall. This is the man that took his shirt off in a postgame OT victory celebration 4 years ago. Montana state definitely has the talent and the homefield advantage, but I still believe SFA has the heart to pull out an upset.
Each of the interviews with your coach and players have been impressive. Should be a good game.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by BobcatDel » Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:56 am

kwcat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:47 am
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:40 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.
Very true. I definitely see your point(s) due to the historical success of the program. And do admit SFA hasn't faced anyone of this caliber in a long long time. However, I truly think we have the best locker room in the country (I know a lot of people say that). Watch any interview over this past season, and you can see that everyone is willing to take a bullet for anyone in that locker room. There have been no "bad apples" all year long. I know we are only traveling with 60-70 players, but in the regular season when we would dress 110+. Every single player that would not see the field was jumping up and down on the sideline all game long. Each player plays for something bigger than themselves and it's been really wholesome to witness firsthand. A lot, if not all of the credit, goes to HC Colby Carthel. He will have you ready to run through a brick wall. This is the man that took his shirt off in a postgame OT victory celebration 4 years ago. Montana state definitely has the talent and the homefield advantage, but I still believe SFA has the heart to pull out an upset.
Each of the interviews with your coach and players have been impressive. Should be a good game.
Ditto kwcat…..so much more class than what we saw out of Yale program. And obviously starts with the HC. You can see why staff and players enjoy working and playing at SFA.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by GoldstoneCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:10 am

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:40 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.
Very true. I definitely see your point(s) due to the historical success of the program. And do admit SFA hasn't faced anyone of this caliber in a long long time. However, I truly think we have the best locker room in the country (I know a lot of people say that). Watch any interview over this past season, and you can see that everyone is willing to take a bullet for anyone in that locker room. There have been no "bad apples" all year long. I know we are only traveling with 60-70 players, but in the regular season when we would dress 110+. Every single player that would not see the field was jumping up and down on the sideline all game long. Each player plays for something bigger than themselves and it's been really wholesome to witness firsthand. A lot, if not all of the credit, goes to HC Colby Carthel. He will have you ready to run through a brick wall. This is the man that took his shirt off in a postgame OT victory celebration 4 years ago. Montana state definitely has the talent and the homefield advantage, but I still believe SFA has the heart to pull out an upset.
No doubt. And you've got some dudes too. My intent/ thought is not to slight SFA. Our confidence stems from having done this a bunch of times, being really hard to deal with at home, and having 5 years of Vigen's NDSU-style development in the trenches. Doesn't mean it goes the way we think it will but that's where it comes from.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:24 am

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:10 am
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:40 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.
Very true. I definitely see your point(s) due to the historical success of the program. And do admit SFA hasn't faced anyone of this caliber in a long long time. However, I truly think we have the best locker room in the country (I know a lot of people say that). Watch any interview over this past season, and you can see that everyone is willing to take a bullet for anyone in that locker room. There have been no "bad apples" all year long. I know we are only traveling with 60-70 players, but in the regular season when we would dress 110+. Every single player that would not see the field was jumping up and down on the sideline all game long. Each player plays for something bigger than themselves and it's been really wholesome to witness firsthand. A lot, if not all of the credit, goes to HC Colby Carthel. He will have you ready to run through a brick wall. This is the man that took his shirt off in a postgame OT victory celebration 4 years ago. Montana state definitely has the talent and the homefield advantage, but I still believe SFA has the heart to pull out an upset.
No doubt. And you've got some dudes too. My intent/ thought is not to slight SFA. Our confidence stems from having done this a bunch of times, being really hard to deal with at home, and having 5 years of Vigen's NDSU-style development in the trenches. Doesn't mean it goes the way we think it will but that's where it comes from.
Gotcha. All Love and may there be some great football played tonight in Bozeman Montana!



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by Augustus » Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:28 am

RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:44 am
Confidence is something Texans seem to know something about.
"Try that in Texas!" or "Everything's bigger and better in Texas" tropes are tiresome. They have no humility. I've lived in Texas. It's a s***hole. Flat, hot, humid, and billions of cockroaches. There is nothing good to like about that place.

They go down tonight and they go down hard. Or at least they'd better, or we stand little chance against the gris.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by CelticCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:36 am

Catprint wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 12:39 am
Late Thursday so putting this in two threads since not much time to read it before Friday night.

Never one to be overly optimistic after a game such as Yale. Just seemed to me we are dismissing the game as a one-off. So i thought a bit about the conference games and first playoff game. My sense was in the last three games the O was not as strong or just off. So here is my chart and observation about the First Six Conference Games and the Last Three Games. Yes, I get it that the competition is tougher in the last three games but I think the defense has held up about the same.

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Observations
1) 21 fewer points per game
2) 125 fewer yards per game
3) About same yards per play. Its just we have fewer plays and time of possession.
4) Biggest stat - Averaging 122 fewer passing yards. All lost yards are from passing. Our run game is generating the same number of yards but the passing attack is almost half as much.

Conclusions? Nothing I would hang my hat on but I see SFA trying to keep this from being a tit for tat high scoring game.
1) I think SFA stacks the box after getting beaten up on the run by ACU last week. They will dare us to pass.
2) They will play lots of man with their top corners and try to keep out anything deep.
3) By stacking the box, they will work to put pressure on Lamson and keep their hands up given we had 3 or 4 tipped passes last week.
4) It will be up to our O line and Davis and Jones to make or break the game.
5) I think our D can keep SFA in the low 20's.

Just my observation. I still think we can run the ball.
Here are the game by game PFF grades:



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:02 am

Augustus wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:28 am
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:44 am
Confidence is something Texans seem to know something about.
"Try that in Texas!" or "Everything's bigger and better in Texas" tropes are tiresome. They have no humility. I've lived in Texas. It's a s***hole. Flat, hot, humid, and billions of cockroaches. There is nothing good to like about that place.

They go down tonight and they go down hard. Or at least they'd better, or we stand little chance against the gris.
LOL. Now that's funny. Have fun shoveling your driveway for the next 3 months.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by cats2506 » Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:11 am

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:10 am
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:40 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:56 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:57 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 5:16 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:25 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:33 pm
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:55 am
I think SFA will be very very tough. Something like our playoff games vs SDSU and USD in recent years at home.
Well I'm hoping more like USD and hoping we get the result we got last year... I'd take 31 to 17! See ya tomorrow 8)
I'm not so sure it won't be closer to William and Mary 2022, especially if we can start fast and light the place on fire the first couple series.
Just remember SFA is in the top 8 for a reason. This game can go either way, although Montana state is definitely more likely to win (coming from an SFA fan). But to say this game is going to be closer to a 55-7 victory is just arrogant.
I don't think it'll be that. I think it'll be a very competitive game. I just allow for the possibility that it could go that way. These Friday quarterfinal games have been a hurricane for teams coming in. I think your team is capable of winning. But W&M was #5 when they came in, they were confident, but their team didn't handle the moment and they got boat raced. I don't think that'll happen here but the last 3 Friday QF games: 28-3, 55-7, 52-19. The last 2 against top 8 seeds. W&M was 5, idaho 8. So i do allow for the possibility, you'll have to forgive me my arrogance.
Yes this is the part of the season where if we predict the Cats to win big we're "arrogant". And this isn't a slight to our SFA fans. But as you showed, our last 3 Friday night playoff games were just that; big wins. This isn't to say this is how tomorrow will go, but it's certainly not arrogant to think the results tomorrow could be the exact same as the results the last 3 times.
I'd like to think of it as "confident." :lol: These Friday night games have just been such a hornets nest too at the ol ball yard, with juiced up fans and a team more focused than we've been in that first game out of the bye. Add a little spice and drama this week, and I just think it's a really hard spot for them coming in. Confident.
Very true. I definitely see your point(s) due to the historical success of the program. And do admit SFA hasn't faced anyone of this caliber in a long long time. However, I truly think we have the best locker room in the country (I know a lot of people say that). Watch any interview over this past season, and you can see that everyone is willing to take a bullet for anyone in that locker room. There have been no "bad apples" all year long. I know we are only traveling with 60-70 players, but in the regular season when we would dress 110+. Every single player that would not see the field was jumping up and down on the sideline all game long. Each player plays for something bigger than themselves and it's been really wholesome to witness firsthand. A lot, if not all of the credit, goes to HC Colby Carthel. He will have you ready to run through a brick wall. This is the man that took his shirt off in a postgame OT victory celebration 4 years ago. Montana state definitely has the talent and the homefield advantage, but I still believe SFA has the heart to pull out an upset.
No doubt. And you've got some dudes too. My intent/ thought is not to slight SFA. Our confidence stems from having done this a bunch of times, being really hard to deal with at home, and having 5 years of Vigen's NDSU-style development in the trenches. Doesn't mean it goes the way we think it will but that's where it comes from.
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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by Augustus » Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:19 am

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:02 am
Augustus wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:28 am
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:44 am
Confidence is something Texans seem to know something about.
"Try that in Texas!" or "Everything's bigger and better in Texas" tropes are tiresome. They have no humility. I've lived in Texas. It's a s***hole. Flat, hot, humid, and billions of cockroaches. There is nothing good to like about that place.

They go down tonight and they go down hard. Or at least they'd better, or we stand little chance against the gris.
LOL. Now that's funny. Have fun shoveling your driveway for the next 3 months.
No worries. I've got a brand new plow and I enjoy the hell out of it. Enjoy storing all of your food in the fridge so the cockroaches don't get into it.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by kwcat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:25 am

Augustus wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:28 am
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:44 am
Confidence is something Texans seem to know something about.
"Try that in Texas!" or "Everything's bigger and better in Texas" tropes are tiresome. They have no humility. I've lived in Texas. It's a s***hole. Flat, hot, humid, and billions of cockroaches. There is nothing good to like about that place.

They go down tonight and they go down hard. Or at least they'd better, or we stand little chance against the gris.
Growing up, just south of Canada in Eastern Montana, I am at the opinion that nasty weather, weather, cold or hot, insects that bite, etc. builds character. The mild in general weather(comparatively)of Bozeman has made me soft over the years I have to admit. Good people come from harsh climates.
That being said, if we get back to playing our game, we win going away. If our house is not in order, we’re gonna be in for a dog fight.



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Re: #7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:31 am

Augustus wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:19 am
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 10:02 am
Augustus wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:28 am
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:44 am
Confidence is something Texans seem to know something about.
"Try that in Texas!" or "Everything's bigger and better in Texas" tropes are tiresome. They have no humility. I've lived in Texas. It's a s***hole. Flat, hot, humid, and billions of cockroaches. There is nothing good to like about that place.

They go down tonight and they go down hard. Or at least they'd better, or we stand little chance against the gris.
LOL. Now that's funny. Have fun shoveling your driveway for the next 3 months.
No worries. I've got a brand new plow and I enjoy the hell out of it. Enjoy storing all of your food in the fridge so the cockroaches don't get into it.
Can't remember the last time I saw a cockroach :lol: I am in the same boat with majority of Texans that can afford pest control



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