Idaho State. griz were down 10 points in the 4th qtr.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.
Can South Dakota Get it Done?
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
Idaho State.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.
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Everyone who follows BSC football instantly thinks Indiana State when they see ISU.technoCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:39 amIdaho State.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.
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TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:40 amEveryone who follows BSC football instantly thinks Indiana State when they see ISU.technoCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:39 amIdaho State.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.![]()
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haha ok ya very true ! my bad. I forget idaho state exists sometimesThe Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:56 amTomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:40 amEveryone who follows BSC football instantly thinks Indiana State when they see ISU.technoCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:39 amIdaho State.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.![]()
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Apparently gris fans do anyway.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:40 amEveryone who follows BSC football instantly thinks Indiana State when they see ISU.technoCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:39 amIdaho State.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.![]()
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Well they do THIS season when they smoked Indiana State and almost lost to Idaho State. Selective memory at it's finest!cats2506 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:30 amApparently gris fans do anyway.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:40 amEveryone who follows BSC football instantly thinks Indiana State when they see ISU.technoCat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:39 amIdaho State.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:15 amGriz struggled against ISU? It was 63-7 in the 4th quarter loltechnoCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:57 amBut the Griz also struggled against ISU and EWU. Depends more on how they are playing now. I also wonder if USD can bring it for a second game on the road in December. I think it could really go any way. The Griz thrive on momentum so if USD can weather the storm or jump on them early, they could definitely pull off the upset. I think the Griz will win, hope they have to work for it but I could see them cruising too.![]()
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I don't think the Coyotes are going to be able to handle the gris...we better our ****** together.
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Can't forget they're also getting healthy at the right time (worst for us) by getting their #1 CB (Loud) back. One player might not seem like much initially, but he is a legitimate shutdown corner and with his ability to do that it actually improves and changes their blitz packages as it frees up another defender. Don't think he played against us the first time either.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:45 pmI hope I don’t get kicked off the board for being a bad fan. But the combination of us having arguably our worst performance of the season and the Gris having their best makes me very queasy. Of course , that feeling can go away if we smack SFA and look like national title contenders again. I really don’t like the trend of the Gris having their two best and most complete performances back to back, it seems like they’re peaking at the right time. We…definitely didn’t peak Saturday. Thank goodness it’s at home. If both teams win, that very well might be the most nervous I’ve ever been, and I was quite nervous before some “high stakes” games in my time playing sports. And I don’t even want to think about what happens if we lose and then they win the natty. I don’t think I’d ever get over these past two years then.
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Utcatsfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:19 pmCan't forget they're also getting healthy at the right time (worst for us) by getting their #1 CB (Loud) back. One player might not seem like much initially, but he is a legitimate shutdown corner and with his ability to do that it actually improves and changes their blitz packages as it frees up another defender. Don't think he played against us the first time either.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:45 pmI hope I don’t get kicked off the board for being a bad fan. But the combination of us having arguably our worst performance of the season and the Gris having their best makes me very queasy. Of course , that feeling can go away if we smack SFA and look like national title contenders again. I really don’t like the trend of the Gris having their two best and most complete performances back to back, it seems like they’re peaking at the right time. We…definitely didn’t peak Saturday. Thank goodness it’s at home. If both teams win, that very well might be the most nervous I’ve ever been, and I was quite nervous before some “high stakes” games in my time playing sports. And I don’t even want to think about what happens if we lose and then they win the natty. I don’t think I’d ever get over these past two years then.
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QB rating With Loud 122.5. Without Loud 123.7.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:22 pmUtcatsfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:19 pmCan't forget they're also getting healthy at the right time (worst for us) by getting their #1 CB (Loud) back. One player might not seem like much initially, but he is a legitimate shutdown corner and with his ability to do that it actually improves and changes their blitz packages as it frees up another defender. Don't think he played against us the first time either.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:45 pmI hope I don’t get kicked off the board for being a bad fan. But the combination of us having arguably our worst performance of the season and the Gris having their best makes me very queasy. Of course , that feeling can go away if we smack SFA and look like national title contenders again. I really don’t like the trend of the Gris having their two best and most complete performances back to back, it seems like they’re peaking at the right time. We…definitely didn’t peak Saturday. Thank goodness it’s at home. If both teams win, that very well might be the most nervous I’ve ever been, and I was quite nervous before some “high stakes” games in my time playing sports. And I don’t even want to think about what happens if we lose and then they win the natty. I don’t think I’d ever get over these past two years then.![]()
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Points allowed with Loud 29.8; without 15.3
He played last week and they allowed 29 points and 417 yards at 6.9 ypp in regulation. Almost exactly the same as they did without him vs us. 31, 416, 6.9.
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
Yep this is the story line they are saying. He shuts it down, they blitz you throw behind it and more big plays.Utcatsfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:19 pmCan't forget they're also getting healthy at the right time (worst for us) by getting their #1 CB (Loud) back. One player might not seem like much initially, but he is a legitimate shutdown corner and with his ability to do that it actually improves and changes their blitz packages as it frees up another defender. Don't think he played against us the first time either.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:45 pmI hope I don’t get kicked off the board for being a bad fan. But the combination of us having arguably our worst performance of the season and the Gris having their best makes me very queasy. Of course , that feeling can go away if we smack SFA and look like national title contenders again. I really don’t like the trend of the Gris having their two best and most complete performances back to back, it seems like they’re peaking at the right time. We…definitely didn’t peak Saturday. Thank goodness it’s at home. If both teams win, that very well might be the most nervous I’ve ever been, and I was quite nervous before some “high stakes” games in my time playing sports. And I don’t even want to think about what happens if we lose and then they win the natty. I don’t think I’d ever get over these past two years then.
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I am picking the Griz to win. I want them to win. I think they will win.
But they have not seen a player like L.J. Phillips this year. There’s a version of this game where he takes over.
But they have not seen a player like L.J. Phillips this year. There’s a version of this game where he takes over.
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
they barely beat Northern Colorado, lost to lamar, barely beat indiana state, barely beat northern iowa, got killed by ndsu, barely beat und had a close game with the rabbits ..only thing that they looked good doing was beating Mercer who would probably be lower level in the BSC. they have like the worst offense in the mvfc so I don't see them doing well in gris stadium...defense is mediocre what are you seeing that you think differently?
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justafan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:04 pmthey barely beat Northern Colorado, lost to lamar, barely beat indiana state, barely beat northern iowa, got killed by ndsu, barely beat und had a close game with the rabbits ..only thing that they looked good doing was beating Mercer who would probably be lower level in the BSC. they have like the worst offense in the mvfc so I don't see them doing well in gris stadium...defense is mediocre what are you seeing that you think differently?
Agreed. Griz by 20 this weekend. Both teams should be hopefully rolling into the semi’s!
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
The Griz... totally scummed out and beat UND at home by 1, granted UND is an OK FCS team but not a power by any stretch. They also struggled against Idaho at home, REALLY struggled against Idaho State away, and struggled against EWU at home. IMO USD is significantly better than Idaho, Idaho State, and EWU. Just saying.justafan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:04 pmthey barely beat Northern Colorado, lost to lamar, barely beat indiana state, barely beat northern iowa, got killed by ndsu, barely beat und had a close game with the rabbits ..only thing that they looked good doing was beating Mercer who would probably be lower level in the BSC. they have like the worst offense in the mvfc so I don't see them doing well in gris stadium...defense is mediocre what are you seeing that you think differently?
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
I watched the griz play UND, ISU and EWU. I came away thinking that they were really lucky to beat UND, I didn't think they were the better team. I also thought ISU was just as good as UM. I do thing they were better than EWU but were actually lucky to win. The griz have gotten their orphanage of transfers finally playing well. They seem to be better than they were in the early part of the season. I think this game is a toss up.
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
agree on und und's coach screwed up leaving easy field goals on the field..I watched that game, I watched the vandals game it was not really close, Idaho state yes they got lucky there and Eastern they never as close as the score most of the game they were up by 2 scores or more. I hope you are right and I am wrong but I don't see it.catatac wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:53 pmThe Griz... totally scummed out and beat UND at home by 1, granted UND is an OK FCS team but not a power my any stretch. They also struggled against Idaho at home, REALLY struggled against Idaho State away, and struggled against EWU at home. IMO USD is significantly better than Idaho, Idaho State, and EWU. Just saying.justafan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:04 pmthey barely beat Northern Colorado, lost to lamar, barely beat indiana state, barely beat northern iowa, got killed by ndsu, barely beat und had a close game with the rabbits ..only thing that they looked good doing was beating Mercer who would probably be lower level in the BSC. they have like the worst offense in the mvfc so I don't see them doing well in gris stadium...defense is mediocre what are you seeing that you think differently?
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Re: Can South Dakota Get it Done?
Here's how USD is playing lately (last five games):
-38 PPG
-21 PPG Allowed
-192 yds/game rushing, 5.1 YPC
-168 yds/game rushing allowed, 5.1 YPC
-77/109, 71%, 1133 yds, 10.4 YPA, 13 TD, 11.9 TD%, 1 INT, 0.9 INT%
-87/159, 55%, 933 yds, 5.9 YPA, 7 TD, 4.4 TD%, 8 INT, 5.0 INT% (Allowed)
Their defense has had an outlier game on either side (Mercer and Southern Illinois). Their offense has been generally excellent. Generally speaking, the pass defense has been ahead of the rushing defense.
I think the Griz should win the game, but USD is probably a tougher matchup than the Jacks. It will come down to whether they have the speed to the sideline, the discipline to maintain leverage, and the skill to get guys on the ground. If they can do that better than SDSU, they will have a chance.
-38 PPG
-21 PPG Allowed
-192 yds/game rushing, 5.1 YPC
-168 yds/game rushing allowed, 5.1 YPC
-77/109, 71%, 1133 yds, 10.4 YPA, 13 TD, 11.9 TD%, 1 INT, 0.9 INT%
-87/159, 55%, 933 yds, 5.9 YPA, 7 TD, 4.4 TD%, 8 INT, 5.0 INT% (Allowed)
Their defense has had an outlier game on either side (Mercer and Southern Illinois). Their offense has been generally excellent. Generally speaking, the pass defense has been ahead of the rushing defense.
I think the Griz should win the game, but USD is probably a tougher matchup than the Jacks. It will come down to whether they have the speed to the sideline, the discipline to maintain leverage, and the skill to get guys on the ground. If they can do that better than SDSU, they will have a chance.