I see NO HOPE in reducing the toxicity

[Cataholic]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

[BelligerentBobcat]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I imagine the Griz defense would look very much the same they did this year if Fouch wasn't playing.

[OldGriz]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

[thisnamesucks]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

Transitive property of who beat what common opponent and how much is kind of irrelevant after the Cats won at Missoula

[Cataholic]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

I know you are trolling, but you are so dumb. We beat you! How hard is it to realize that SDSU was way better when they were healthy? Is that too hard to comprehend? Do you have an IQ in single digits? Would the Gris be a good team minus their key players? Seriously, are you just slow?

[catapult]

SDSU not only was down 5 starters on defense and 4 starters on offense against the gris, but they also lost quite a few of their backups and that really puts a strain on their depth. They literally played that game with 3rd+ stringers in a lot of positions, specifically one of their CBs. SDSU really started struggling after halftime as their lack of depth reared its ugly head. However, it seems the gris are getting better each game, and it feels like our Cats are out of sync and running out of steam. I hope I'm just paranoid and that isn't the case. We need to lock in, have a very spirited, complementary football game against SFA. Go CATS!

[OldGriz]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

Transitive property of who beat what common opponent and how much is kind of irrelevant after the Cats won at Missoula

I don’t disagree. You probably noticed I agree that the Cats are better than the Griz by virtue of the Cats’ decisive victory on November 22. It was a Bobcat fan who posted something above how Griz fans are now ridiculously saying SDSU is good. Tom said numerous times in other threads that if SDSU just had Mason all season, SDSU goes 10-2 or 11-1. I say B.S. It’s not becoming of a confident conference champion to cling to fairy tales about how SDSU was tough for one Saturday in September. You don’t have to. You’re rolling. Beat SFA and let’s get a rematch.

[golden77]

I don't know why everyone is so whacked out because we had a bad game last Saturday. Christ the Griz pulled about 4 games out of their butts this year. They struggled against a terrible Eastern Washington team, had a miraculous win against North Dakota who dominated for most of the game, and had to go late into the game to finally put away division 2 Central Washington. They also lost at home less than 2 weeks ago with all kinds of things riding on that game. Conference title, seeding, home field advantage, state bragging rights. As Aaron Rodgers once said RELAX

[OldGriz]

I don't know why everyone is so whacked out because we had a bad game last Saturday. Christ the Griz pulled about 4 games out of their butts this year. They struggled against a terrible Eastern Washington team, had a miraculous win against North Dakota who dominated for most of the game, and had to go late into the game to finally put away division 2 Central Washington. They also lost at home less than 2 weeks ago with all kinds of things riding on that game. Conference title, seeding, home field advantage, state bragging rights. As Aaron Rodgers once said RELAX

This.

[nanacat]

I don't know why everyone is so whacked out because we had a bad game last Saturday. Christ the Griz pulled about 4 games out of their butts this year. They struggled against a terrible Eastern Washington team, had a miraculous win against North Dakota who dominated for most of the game, and had to go late into the game to finally put away division 2 Central Washington. They also lost at home less than 2 weeks ago with all kinds of things riding on that game. Conference title, seeding, home field advantage, state bragging rights. As Aaron Rodgers once said RELAX

Solid perspective!

[iaafan]

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

Vs SDSU, The Cats gave 17 points and 247 yards. The other 13 and 50 came in OT. Griz gave up 29 and 417 yards on 60 plays, which is almost identical (31/416 on 60 plays) to what you gave up to MSU. There’s been a lot of talk about how your defense turned it around vs SDSU but the numbers say otherwise. And both those games the offenses had to contend with your crowd noise.

If, as you contend, sdsu’s offense/mason are mediocre, then what happens when you run into a good offense? 500 yards/42 points.

UM had a great day offensively, but they haven’t had an away game against a good defense and loud road fans. Sac, ISU, Weber and PSU have been the road games. I don’t think anyone expects that those games have prepped UM’s offense for Bobcat Stadium.

[OldGriz]

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

Vs SDSU, The Cats gave 17 points and 247 yards. The other 13 and 50 came in OT. Griz gave up 29 and 417 yards on 60 plays, which is almost identical (31/416 on 60 plays) to what you gave up to MSU. There’s been a lot of talk about how your defense turned it around vs SDSU but the numbers say otherwise. And both those games the offenses had to contend with your crowd noise.

If, as you contend, sdsu’s offense/mason are mediocre, then what happens when you run into a good offense? 500 yards/42 points.

UM had a great day offensively, but they haven’t had an away game against a good defense and loud road fans. Sac, ISU, Weber and PSU have been the road games. I don’t think anyone expects that those games have prepped UM’s offense for Bobcat Stadium.

I agree with you here — a very good offense would be tough for the Griz to overcome.

[catatac]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

Transitive property of who beat what common opponent and how much is kind of irrelevant after the Cats won at Missoula

I don’t disagree. You probably noticed I agree that the Cats are better than the Griz by virtue of the Cats’ decisive victory on November 22. It was a Bobcat fan who posted something above how Griz fans are now ridiculously saying SDSU is good. Tom said numerous times in other threads that if SDSU just had Mason all season, SDSU goes 10-2 or 11-1. I say B.S. It’s not becoming of a confident conference champion to cling to fairy tales about how SDSU was tough for one Saturday in September. You don’t have to. You’re rolling. Beat SFA and let’s get a rematch.

Do you even want a rematch? I think you're on record saying the Cats are better than the Griz and considering the Cats beat the Griz in Missoula, highly unlikely they're losing to them in Bobcat Stadium.

[OldGriz]

Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.

SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.

Then you don't watch much football. MSU 8 seniors on 2 deep, new OC and DC and reshuffle o line prior to Oregon. D played fine but O was still learning who they are. (And still may be looking at last week).
If you discount the 5 yd dump pass then the majority of Worthams big plays are not impressive.

SDSU was mediocre all season, even with Mason at QB. But he was the big difference maker between the team’s greatness and mediocrity, according to you all season long. I understand your rationale for the Cat loss to SDSU. OK, I’ll buy it. The dump pass is a fine play and an opportunity for the receiver to show off some skill. You know the context for noting that play (almost a third of the great #7’s total passing yards came on a 5-yard connection). You said all year SDSU goes 10-2 with Mason at QB. I don’t buy that one.

I know you don’t really care, but for the majority of the season SDSU was missing Mason, their best WR, at least a couple starting OL, and their best LB. Most of those players were still out for the Griz game as well. Framing SDSU as just missing their QB is intentional ignorance because you’ve been told this several times. It is both fair and possible to say that SDSU wasn’t as good as originally thought, and they had some key injuries (plural) that greatly impacted that.

Can you imagine how bad the Gris would if they lost similar players? Let’s say Ah Yat, Gilman, Wortham and Fouche?

I get how it’s hard to let go. Especially after the Griz hung 50 points on a team the Cats lost to and gave up fewer points to them than the Cats gave up. But this theory about how SDSU was a powerhouse the week you played them is just silly. Most of the commenters here are on the same page (reality). But you’re not there yet.

Transitive property of who beat what common opponent and how much is kind of irrelevant after the Cats won at Missoula

I don’t disagree. You probably noticed I agree that the Cats are better than the Griz by virtue of the Cats’ decisive victory on November 22. It was a Bobcat fan who posted something above how Griz fans are now ridiculously saying SDSU is good. Tom said numerous times in other threads that if SDSU just had Mason all season, SDSU goes 10-2 or 11-1. I say B.S. It’s not becoming of a confident conference champion to cling to fairy tales about how SDSU was tough for one Saturday in September. You don’t have to. You’re rolling. Beat SFA and let’s get a rematch.

Do you even want a rematch? I think you're on record saying the Cats are better than the Griz and considering the Cats beat the Griz in Missoula, highly unlikely they're losing to them in Bobcat Stadium.

Are you kidding? LOL. Of course we Griz fans want a rematch. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t. It would be great for the state and the conference. And who knows? The Cats surprised me against Yale. Never know what can happen.

[HookedOnGriz]

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.

It was the 2nd/3rd team who punched it in. 2nd/3rd team QB, RB, Lineman. If you can’t stop the back ups from driving down the field and scoring then that’s on you.

[tetoncat]

SDSU not only was down 5 starters on defense and 4 starters on offense against the gris, but they also lost quite a few of their backups and that really puts a strain on their depth. They literally played that game with 3rd+ stringers in a lot of positions, specifically one of their CBs. SDSU really started struggling after halftime as their lack of depth reared its ugly head. However, it seems the gris are getting better each game, and it feels like our Cats are out of sync and running out of steam. I hope I'm just paranoid and that isn't the case. We need to lock in, have a very spirited, complementary football game against SFA. Go CATS!

One game means the Cats are out of steam. That defense played great. O struggled but I thinkthey score if executed fake punt and at end without Lamson fumble. If one of those happen and Cats win 28-6 would fans still be saying they are sliding.

[OldGriz]

SDSU not only was down 5 starters on defense and 4 starters on offense against the gris, but they also lost quite a few of their backups and that really puts a strain on their depth. They literally played that game with 3rd+ stringers in a lot of positions, specifically one of their CBs. SDSU really started struggling after halftime as their lack of depth reared its ugly head. However, it seems the gris are getting better each game, and it feels like our Cats are out of sync and running out of steam. I hope I'm just paranoid and that isn't the case. We need to lock in, have a very spirited, complementary football game against SFA. Go CATS!

One game means the Cats are out of steam. That defense played great. O struggled but I thinkthey score if executed fake punt and at end without Lamson fumble. If one of those happen and Cats win 28-6 would fans still be saying they are sliding.

I agree, Teton. Even though I say the Cats surprised me in the Yale game, what surprises me more is the apparent panic among some in the Cat fan base. The score could have been 28-6 with just a couple of different factors, like you say. Yale is a heck of a lot better than SDSU. Now go beat SFA and let’s have a rematch.

[catapult]

SDSU not only was down 5 starters on defense and 4 starters on offense against the gris, but they also lost quite a few of their backups and that really puts a strain on their depth. They literally played that game with 3rd+ stringers in a lot of positions, specifically one of their CBs. SDSU really started struggling after halftime as their lack of depth reared its ugly head. However, it seems the gris are getting better each game, and it feels like our Cats are out of sync and running out of steam. I hope I'm just paranoid and that isn't the case. We need to lock in, have a very spirited, complementary football game against SFA. Go CATS!

One game means the Cats are out of steam. That defense played great. O struggled but I thinkthey score if executed fake punt and at end without Lamson fumble. If one of those happen and Cats win 28-6 would fans still be saying they are sliding.

I didn't say "Cats are out of steam". I said "running" out of steam. No, I don't think 1 game means the Cats are "running out of steam". However, our defense struggled in Cat/gris but our offense was lights out. In the Yale game both offense and defense struggled, a trend I don't like. Add in we are starting to get hit by the injury bug with a few key starters/backups playing a bit more banged up and a couple key backups out, leads to appearing to run out of steam. Let's hope I'm being too much of a downer and we play great on both sides of the ball on Friday and we roll SFA!

[tetoncat]

SDSU not only was down 5 starters on defense and 4 starters on offense against the gris, but they also lost quite a few of their backups and that really puts a strain on their depth. They literally played that game with 3rd+ stringers in a lot of positions, specifically one of their CBs. SDSU really started struggling after halftime as their lack of depth reared its ugly head. However, it seems the gris are getting better each game, and it feels like our Cats are out of sync and running out of steam. I hope I'm just paranoid and that isn't the case. We need to lock in, have a very spirited, complementary football game against SFA. Go CATS!

One game means the Cats are out of steam. That defense played great. O struggled but I thinkthey score if executed fake punt and at end without Lamson fumble. If one of those happen and Cats win 28-6 would fans still be saying they are sliding.

I didn't say "Cats are out of steam". I said "running" out of steam. No, I don't think 1 game means the Cats are "running out of steam". However, our defense struggled in Cat/gris but our offense was lights out. In the Yale game both offense and defense struggled, a trend I don't like. Add in we are starting to get hit by the injury bug with a few key starters/backups playing a bit more banged up and a couple key backups out, leads to appearing to run out of steam. Let's hope I'm being too much of a downer and we play great on both sides of the ball on Friday and we roll SFA!

We watch different games. Cats D held Wortham in check and did Gillam as well until the 50 yard run late. The drive before half and to start the third were troubling as the converted several 3rd downs. Yale was never in scoring position in first half. If offense doesn't have a couple key penalties when at 35 it could have been 21-0 and force them to pass more and D may have feasted. O was okay vs Griz but was not their best day of season. 1 big pass play, Jones had a good day running and a lot of Lamsons was scrambles because of protection. I think fans overreacted about Griz game and now are overreacting about Yale.

[MSU Doc]

What do you mean by bring out the worst? That they (and we) will say meaner things than usual? Or do you expect fans to bring knives and guns, or riot?

More altercations (e.g. the gray-haired UM fan wanting to fight the MSU college student, which was caught on video after the recent Cat/Griz game). Those altercations escalating to physical fighting. ESPN televising them nationally. I don't expect knives, guns, or a riot. However, I also expected more out of someone over 25 years old, let alone over 60.