Bobcats vs Yale - Not the Official Game Day Thread

[BelgradeBobcat]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

Football players at "other" schools who choose academics:

[TomCat88]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

You’re taking it out of context.

The coach said that the rest of the fcs doesn’t respect the Ivy League and then calls Yale a “real school” which is lacking self awareness at best. But he was pissed off and probably won’t say any of that coming off a win.

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

Huh? The missed 2pt meant that Yale would need a 2point conversion to tie. It was a terrible call. And poorly executed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/281 ... s-backs-up

Going for 2 down 8 is the correct call because it maximizes your chances of winning. Among other things, it gives you a tactical benefit and you’re not worse off

[SCVBobcat]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

Huh? The missed 2pt meant that Yale would need a 2point conversion to tie. It was a terrible call. And poorly executed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/281 ... s-backs-up

Going for 2 down 8 is the correct call because it maximizes your chances of winning. Among other things, it gives you a tactical benefit and you’re not worse off

You may be mathematically correct, but it seems that failing the 2-pt attempt could kill the momentum you had going after the TD a little

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

Huh? The missed 2pt meant that Yale would need a 2point conversion to tie. It was a terrible call. And poorly executed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/281 ... s-backs-up

Going for 2 down 8 is the correct call because it maximizes your chances of winning. Among other things, it gives you a tactical benefit and you’re not worse off

You may be mathematically correct, but it seems that failing the 2-pt attempt could kill the momentum you had going after the TD a little

Isn’t the opposite true if you convert the attempt too? Hopefully you’ve explained it to your players and they understand why you would go for 2 in the 4th quarter

[MSU01]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

Huh? The missed 2pt meant that Yale would need a 2point conversion to tie. It was a terrible call. And poorly executed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/281 ... s-backs-up

Going for 2 down 8 is the correct call because it maximizes your chances of winning. Among other things, it gives you a tactical benefit and you’re not worse off

You may be mathematically correct, but it seems that failing the 2-pt attempt could kill the momentum you had going after the TD a little

Easy to say it's a bad call after we know that it didn't work. Is anyone criticizing the Illinois State coach for going for 2 instead of kicking the XP to tie at the end? What is definitely up for criticism is the play call Yale chose to use on that attempt.

[onceacat]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

You’re taking it out of context.

The coach said that the rest of the fcs doesn’t respect the Ivy League and then calls Yale a “real school” which is lacking self awareness at best. But he was pissed off and probably won’t say any of that coming off a win.

No he didn't. Not even close. This is the victim snowflake mentality I'm talking about.

He said "These guys go to real school and take real finals" (Also that they played 12 weeks in a row).

MSU has lots of academic rock stars like Tommy, who clearly also did 'real school' and took 'real finals'. But thats not the norm or expectation for college football.

Getting bent out of shape because a coach says "We made a deep playoff run despite making our kids actually fulfill academic requirements" isn't a dig towards MSU....unless you decide that it is.

Victimhood isn't a good look for any of us. Makes us all look like a bunch of whiners.

[kwcat]

Maybe already posted here. But did you know that Yale football players go to real classes?
Referring to the post game interview. What a bitch!
Should read some of the declared majors of his academics on his players.

[Clinton T]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

You’re taking it out of context.

The coach said that the rest of the fcs doesn’t respect the Ivy League and then calls Yale a “real school” which is lacking self awareness at best. But he was pissed off and probably won’t say any of that coming off a win.

No he didn't. Not even close. This is the victim snowflake mentality I'm talking about.

He said "These guys go to real school and take real finals" (Also that they played 12 weeks in a row).

MSU has lots of academic rock stars like Tommy, who clearly also did 'real school' and took 'real finals'. But thats not the norm or expectation for college football.

Getting bent out of shape because a coach says "We made a deep playoff run despite making our kids actually fulfill academic requirements" isn't a dig towards MSU....unless you decide that it is.

Victimhood isn't a good look for any of us. Makes us all look like a bunch of whiners.

His comments were unnecessary, pretentious, immature, and certainly invited scrutiny. It had nothing to do with the game and he came across as an asshole. Pointing that out isn’t indicative of a victim complex. Get a grip.

[technoCat]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

[MSU01]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

No time out, the coach requested a measurement and the refs granted it. Very smart move on his part to save some time.

[technoCat]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

No time out, the coach requested a measurement and the refs granted it. Very smart move on his part to save some time.

Yeah smart but the refs shouldn't have granted it. They needed to make the 5 yard line and they were short. It wasn't like they needed to eyeball it and couldn't tell.

[MSU01]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

No time out, the coach requested a measurement and the refs granted it. Very smart move on his part to save some time.

Yeah smart but the refs shouldn't have granted it. They needed to make the 5 yard line and they were short. It wasn't like they needed to eyeball it and couldn't tell.

True, shouldn't have been granted but the coach was smart to give it a shot.

[technoCat]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

No time out, the coach requested a measurement and the refs granted it. Very smart move on his part to save some time.

Yeah smart but the refs shouldn't have granted it. They needed to make the 5 yard line and they were short. It wasn't like they needed to eyeball it and couldn't tell.

True, shouldn't have been granted but the coach was smart to give it a shot.

Oh totally agree. If they're gonna let you do it, take advantage. Just rubs me the wrong way because if they had challenged it, they would have at least lost a timeout.

[tetoncat]

What a strange arrogant press conference by Yale.

Yep wish a reporter would have told that coach that MSU finals are next week so maybe the Cats were distracted. And that receiver say their 11 were better than Cats 11 so they only worry about themselves. For kids that are supposed to be smart their comments were dumb. You lost, kid.

[tetoncat]

What a strange arrogant press conference by Yale.

Did you catch the "real school" comment?

I'm curious. Hopefully Skyline or someone can post a video.

The coach was reminding the press that his team just played 12 games in a row and are still students and are probably concerned about finals. i don't remember the exact comment but it was in that context. The "real" is what got me. A very Yale comment. Kind of inferring that everyone else is just a college kid but they are university students.

Comment is at 4:19. You can tell the intent by 7s reaction.

Seems pretty spot on. Football players at other schools with Ivy League level academics like USC, Michigan, UNC, Duke, Stanford, Texas, etc mostly don't need to study for exams.

This isn't a secret or a surprise or in any way shocking. Its something every single one of us says all the time.

But students at MSU and most FCS schools do. Yale isn't playing FBS.

[tetoncat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Leave the politics & personal ideological persecution complex aside. Students at Ivy Leagues by and large have heavier academic loads than students at other schools. And football players at the vast majority of schools don't have to meet those standards. This is in no way a secret, or shocking, or surprising.

Does that mean that EVERY SINGLE football player at Yale has a harder academic load than EVERY SINGLE player everywhere else? Obviously not, but to pretend as though the average football player at MSU has a similar academic load to the average player at Yale is laughable.

And, to be clear, the average football player at MSU devotes a lot more time to football than the average football player at Yale, and it showed up in the final score.

Then they shouldn't have supported letting their team play real football in the playoffs so they could do their real school thingy. Quit using it as an excuse.

[tetoncat]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

Huh? The missed 2pt meant that Yale would need a 2point conversion to tie. It was a terrible call. And poorly executed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/281 ... s-backs-up

Going for 2 down 8 is the correct call because it maximizes your chances of winning. Among other things, it gives you a tactical benefit and you’re not worse off

You may be mathematically correct, but it seems that failing the 2-pt attempt could kill the momentum you had going after the TD a little

Easy to say it's a bad call after we know that it didn't work. Is anyone criticizing the Illinois State coach for going for 2 instead of kicking the XP to tie at the end? What is definitely up for criticism is the play call Yale chose to use on that attempt.

and going for 2 early worked for Yale vs YSU

[tetoncat]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

You’re taking it out of context.

The coach said that the rest of the fcs doesn’t respect the Ivy League and then calls Yale a “real school” which is lacking self awareness at best. But he was pissed off and probably won’t say any of that coming off a win.

No he didn't. Not even close. This is the victim snowflake mentality I'm talking about.

He said "These guys go to real school and take real finals" (Also that they played 12 weeks in a row).

MSU has lots of academic rock stars like Tommy, who clearly also did 'real school' and took 'real finals'. But thats not the norm or expectation for college football.

Getting bent out of shape because a coach says "We made a deep playoff run despite making our kids actually fulfill academic requirements" isn't a dig towards MSU....unless you decide that it is.

Victimhood isn't a good look for any of us. Makes us all look like a bunch of whiners.

Tom was in the interview room. Likely hos context is accurate. You keep bringing in FBS schools to your argument. Hell Yale hasn't been out of the NE for a game in uears, doubt that is who he was referencing. Bigger question is why would a coach bring that up. If they feel slighted as not a good team,focus on their performance the last 2 weeks as to why the Ivies belong.

[tetoncat]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

No time out, the coach requested a measurement and the refs granted it. Very smart move on his part to save some time.

Yeah smart but the refs shouldn't have granted it. They needed to make the 5 yard line and they were short. It wasn't like they needed to eyeball it and couldn't tell.

True, shouldn't have been granted but the coach was smart to give it a shot.

Can't you request so you know how far you need.