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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by tdub » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am

91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.


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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by 91catAlum » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 am

tdub wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.
It wasn't just while he playing. But yes I hope he has grown up. If he's successful, good for him, but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.


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Post by Bobcat Sig » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:25 am

Wasn't he also the crimefighter sporting a sharpied "FTC" on his arms for one or more of the rivalry games?


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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by coloradocat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:43 am

91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 am
tdub wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.
It wasn't just while he playing. But yes I hope he has grown up. If he's successful, good for him, but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
Maybe we just don't consume any content involving former griz players or griz fans. That might impact the numbers enough to lead to more non-griz guests.

I wish he had more good content specifically for us besides Rider but I actually prefer the non-partisan stuff from his radio show, his podcast episodes with his brother, his Sam Herder weekly segment and a couple other things he does during the week.

It would be great if he would write more Bobcat content on the website before November but I know he's too busy. It's just too bad there's generally nothing good to read on Skyline prior to his senior spotlights and Cat-griz articles.


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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:48 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:43 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 am
tdub wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.
It wasn't just while he playing. But yes I hope he has grown up. If he's successful, good for him, but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
Maybe we just don't consume any content involving former griz players or griz fans. That might impact the numbers enough to lead to more non-griz guests.

I wish he had more good content specifically for us besides Rider but I actually prefer the non-partisan stuff from his radio show, his podcast episodes with his brother, his Sam Herder weekly segment and a couple other things he does during the week.

It would be great if he would write more Bobcat content on the website before November but I know he's too busy. It's just too bad there's generally nothing good to read on Skyline prior to his senior spotlights and Cat-griz articles.
Objectively false. Stuber write 3-5 stories a week all football season long. And I post them here. Not sure how to get you to read them other than that...

We also started last week doing hits with Gregorak again and that will continue. Just added Leo Davis to the fold. Stuber will be doing YouTube/podcast hits from here on out. I'll get with JP Flynn again once the playoffs are over, he's just trying to win a state championship.




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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by coloradocat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:09 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:48 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:43 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 am
tdub wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.
It wasn't just while he playing. But yes I hope he has grown up. If he's successful, good for him, but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
Maybe we just don't consume any content involving former griz players or griz fans. That might impact the numbers enough to lead to more non-griz guests.

I wish he had more good content specifically for us besides Rider but I actually prefer the non-partisan stuff from his radio show, his podcast episodes with his brother, his Sam Herder weekly segment and a couple other things he does during the week.

It would be great if he would write more Bobcat content on the website before November but I know he's too busy. It's just too bad there's generally nothing good to read on Skyline prior to his senior spotlights and Cat-griz articles.
Objectively false. Stuber write 3-5 stories a week all football season long. And I post them here. Not sure how to get you to read them other than that...

We also started last week doing hits with Gregorak again and that will continue. Just added Leo Davis to the fold. Stuber will be doing YouTube/podcast hits from here on out. I'll get with JP Flynn again once the playoffs are over, he's just trying to win a state championship.
Objectively yes. My statement on the articles was subjective. I'll just say that you are the only writer of Bobcat articles on Skyline that I read and leave it at that.

I definitely appreciate the Gregorak hits as well. I don't really consider him a Bobcat guest so he falls under the non-partisan group that I mentioned and just didn't want to type out all the examples.

You're doing great Colter! My post was more of a response to the guys above me, not you. No real complaints, just BN talk.


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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by 91catAlum » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:16 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:43 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 am
tdub wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.
It wasn't just while he playing. But yes I hope he has grown up. If he's successful, good for him, but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
Maybe we just don't consume any content involving former griz players or griz fans. That might impact the numbers enough to lead to more non-griz guests.
I enjoy the Sammy Akem content. Same with Brooks. My dislike of Tripp isn’t because he was a griz player. It’s because he shot his mouth off too much with complete contempt for all things MSU.


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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by kwcat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:22 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
That is what I thought of him as well. He was good friends with Cody Kirk, which was always a bit of a head scratcher. But I thought his analysis was insightful, and he barely choked out a compliment to Montana state defense.
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Post by nanacat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:39 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:48 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:43 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 am
tdub wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:18 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:16 am
kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:04 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
Jordan Tripp was a complete tool 10 years ago. He was one of those who called us "Bozeman State" and said we didn't deserve to have Montana in our name, etc etc. And that's fine, but when you decide to try to break into sports media after years of over-the-top rivalry smack, those things can come back to bite you. I'll never listen to anything with his name on it. F him.
Just my opinion.
Meh. Some people grow up. Different perspective as a player vs. the rest of adult life. My opinion, it’s okay to have that level of rivalry hatred when you’re playing. I’m glad I’m not held to everything I said or did when I was competing.
It wasn't just while he playing. But yes I hope he has grown up. If he's successful, good for him, but I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
Maybe we just don't consume any content involving former griz players or griz fans. That might impact the numbers enough to lead to more non-griz guests.

I wish he had more good content specifically for us besides Rider but I actually prefer the non-partisan stuff from his radio show, his podcast episodes with his brother, his Sam Herder weekly segment and a couple other things he does during the week.

It would be great if he would write more Bobcat content on the website before November but I know he's too busy. It's just too bad there's generally nothing good to read on Skyline prior to his senior spotlights and Cat-griz articles.
Objectively false. Stuber write 3-5 stories a week all football season long. And I post them here. Not sure how to get you to read them other than that...

We also started last week doing hits with Gregorak again and that will continue. Just added Leo Davis to the fold. Stuber will be doing YouTube/podcast hits from here on out. I'll get with JP Flynn again once the playoffs are over, he's just trying to win a state championship.
I'm so glad you've got Gregorak back regularly! And your live with Stuber was good too, always nice to put a face with the name. Super excited to see your stuff with Leo Davis!!

You do fine Colter. Some guys just have to be pissy sometimes.



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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

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Post by ECBobcat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:43 pm

I love the narrative these guys are pushing — that Bobbi is intentionally having his team play close games because he wants them to learn to handle adversity. Like he’s some kind of mastermind, operating on a level others can only dream of reaching.

Great idea, letting the other team throw for 450+, recover an onside kick, stop you on 9 of 10 third downs (or whatever it was), etc. Flipping genius.

They’re not analyzing; they’re rationalizing. Spinning a shaky performance into some grand, intentional master plan.



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Post by TomCat88 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:58 pm

ECBobcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:43 pm
I love the narrative these guys are pushing — that Bobbi is intentionally having his team play close games because he wants them to learn to handle adversity. Like he’s some kind of mastermind, operating on a level others can only dream of reaching.

Great idea, letting the other team throw for 450+, recover an onside kick, stop you on 9 of 10 third downs (or whatever it was), etc. Flipping genius.

They’re not analyzing; they’re rationalizing. Spinning a shaky performance into some grand, intentional master plan.
UM reminds me a little bit of MSU's 2022 team that had to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat or overtime a couple times. EWU and NAU. It was a good experience in my mind but never resulted in anything because MSU didn't really have any close games. They went undefeated in FCS play until losing to SDSU in the semis - a game they didn't get to test their ability to win a close game.

I also think playing tough teams on the road is a benefit. In 2023, MSU had a tough road schedule, and I thought after the regular season ended that it might pay off in the playoffs. That didn't get tested either when they lost to NDSU at home.

I think MSU's experience on the road this year has just as good a chance to help it as UM's close games does at helping the Griz. MSU beat a good NAU team handily on the road and their experience at Oregon, although bad on the scoreboard, also helps them acclimate to playing at UM. This is also the first year that a road team has had the benefit of practicing indoors before Cat-Griz, which may also play to MSU's favor. MSU playing UC Davis has an effect, too, in that it will reinforce MSU's last eight wins as the NAU win does. It'll help the team to trust what it's doing.

I think UC Davis, NAU and ISU are the 3-4-5 teams in the BSC. If MSU beats UCD, then it will be 3-0, while UM is just 1-0 with a narrow win over ISU.


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Post by ilovethecats » Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:08 pm

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Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:58 pm
This is also the first year that a road team has had the benefit of practicing indoors before Cat-Griz, which may also play to MSU's favor.
I'd never suggest that a practice facility will win games. But this game, and future playoff games are EXACTLY why an IPF is vital. Think about years past when weather dictated practices. Even having to get work done in the Brick sometimes. Now we can work on everything Vigen wants all week long, and blast as much noise as possible to boot. 8)



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Post by Colter_Nuanez » Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:26 pm

ECBobcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:43 pm
I love the narrative these guys are pushing — that Bobbi is intentionally having his team play close games because he wants them to learn to handle adversity. Like he’s some kind of mastermind, operating on a level others can only dream of reaching.

Great idea, letting the other team throw for 450+, recover an onside kick, stop you on 9 of 10 third downs (or whatever it was), etc. Flipping genius.

They’re not analyzing; they’re rationalizing. Spinning a shaky performance into some grand, intentional master plan.
Montana ran the EXACT SAME PLAY - formation, personnel, scheme — on its first play of the possession for 9 straight possessions on Saturday.

Montana then ran pass plays three straight times up 29-17 with 3:50 left, went three and out, then fake punted from their own territory.

On Eastern's last two offensive possessions, none of Montana's starting defensive linemen or corners were in.

This is Bobby ball. I'm in no way trying to justify that it's some brilliant tactic. In fact, I think it's short-sighted and egotistical. And I think the No. 1 reason Bobby Hauck has never won a national title is because of his stubbornness to try to orchestrate and calculate EVERYTHING all the way to the detriment of his team.

Also, as I said on the show with Tootell, there's a definitive reason Montana is either explosive or non existent on offense. It's because they have to scheme everything up. They cannot just run their base offense and move the ball. They have to run all this razzle dazzle. And their run game has no scheme unless they have some once-off plays. Which is why they cannot run the ball between the tackles and salt away wins.

Montana State is the opposite of this. They can run their basic offense and steam roll people. And you want to know what all of that comes down to? The offensive line. The Bobcats have a great one, the Griz have nowhere close to a great one.

In terms of the Griz defense, it has flaws in terms of personnel but way way bigger flaws in terms of scheme. It's why they get diced constantly when they play teams with quarterbacks who can stand in the pocket and throw the ball up the seam.

Montana State has pretty significant personnel, systematic and coaching advantages over the Griz pretty much across the board outside of offensive skill player. But that's why next week will be so fascinating and why it's one of the biggest rivalry games every played.



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Post by CelticCat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:26 pm

ECBobcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:43 pm
I love the narrative these guys are pushing — that Bobbi is intentionally having his team play close games because he wants them to learn to handle adversity. Like he’s some kind of mastermind, operating on a level others can only dream of reaching.

Great idea, letting the other team throw for 450+, recover an onside kick, stop you on 9 of 10 third downs (or whatever it was), etc. Flipping genius.

They’re not analyzing; they’re rationalizing. Spinning a shaky performance into some grand, intentional master plan.
This has been the narrative since Hauck returned. When they struggle, it's always on purpose.


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Post by TomCat88 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:28 pm

ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:08 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:58 pm
This is also the first year that a road team has had the benefit of practicing indoors before Cat-Griz, which may also play to MSU's favor.
I'd never suggest that a practice facility will win games. But this game, and future playoff games are EXACTLY why an IPF is vital. Think about years past when weather dictated practices. Even having to get work done in the Brick sometimes. Now we can work on everything Vigen wants all week long, and blast as much noise as possible to boot. 8)
I'm just saying that it, among other things, could be as big a benefit as having a lot of close games. Colter asked me about MSU not having any close games and I was like, no they haven't and that could be a factor, but MSU has shown it can bounce back from lackluster games, which is akin to having a close game in that it shows it can fend off adversity. MSU also rebounded against NAU after a horrible start that saw them nearly equal their season's total of penalties vs FCS teams in the first half. MSU's players have a lot of experience playing in close games -- New Mexico, EWU, NDSU. Close games are one form of adversity.

The main thing about adversity is you don't want that particular form of adversity to be something you just haven't seen before. Or a type of adversity you have seen but haven't performed well against. I don't really think a close game is going to benefit UM that much because the players have been in close games fairly recently. The adversity for UM is going to be playing a really good team. UM's players faced UCD, MSU and SDSU last year but didn't have much success against that kind of adversity in any of those games losing by 16, 23 and was down 32 before scoring a couple GT TDs. This year the best team they've played is UND, which I don't consider to be in any of those three teams league.


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Re: No. 9 UC Davis at No. 3 Montana State - Skyline Sports

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:46 pm

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Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:39 pm
This is the best interview I’ve ever seen on Skyline Sports. Leo Davis is an absolute treasure for MSU.


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Post by CodyCat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:20 pm

I just realized that if the Cats win Saturday they clinch at least a share of the Big Sky title.


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Post by Bocephus » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:16 pm

CodyCat wrote:
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I just realized that if the Cats win Saturday they clinch at least a share of the Big Sky title.
Not if they lose Cat/gris.



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