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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by RedClowder » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:57 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:30 pm
RedClowder wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:21 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:09 pm
RedClowder wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:05 pm
TrolledGriz must be about ready to hibernate with how much we’re feeding him on this board. Gotta be fat and happy as a pig in sh*t
No, you don't get it. You're supposed to respond to everything he says and prove him wrong. Otherwise he'll never learn. :roll: ](*,)
See, I don’t think you get it. How’re you supposed to understand the stakes of the game while living in Denver? How could you possibly go down to the watch party at Brooklyn’s by Ball Arena and understand the passion of the Cat and Griz fans when you’re watching it outside of the Treasure State?? It just means more lol Go Cats!
No, you don't get it. The Brooklyn's watch party is the largest in the country. We have plenty of rivalry game experience. We don't need to sit in some small town bar on a two lane highway in the middle of nowhere Montana to watch the game to know how important it is! We have pro sports down here! You have no idea how prepare we are to watch a game in a two story bar. We do this all year round!

No, you don’t get it. In ‘22 and ‘24 I was on that upper floor. Had a screaming deal going, 2 for 1 free headlocks. Must’ve handed out a hot dozen of ‘em. Took pictures with all my sad Griz buddies. Talked an incredible amount of ****** in 22 to some old Griz bball players I knew back in the day. Great place to watch the game.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by OldGriz » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:47 pm

RedClowder wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:05 pm
TrolledGriz must be about ready to hibernate with how much we’re feeding him on this board. Gotta be fat and happy as a pig in sh*t
(… burp … fart … :sleep: )



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Cataholic » Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:26 pm

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:46 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:29 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:58 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:35 am
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:08 am
Not controversial. Simply unsubstantiated. For every example in favor of the argument, there is an example against it (see Clifton McDowell — Tommy Turnover example from 2023).
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:04 am
Ok so let me put it to you this way.

If everything else is equal (overall quality of players, schematic approach, etc.) and the Griz are heading into the Brawl, would you prefer that have zero key players from MT, lots of key players from MT, or no preference?
I'm still curious to know your answer.
Proof that you don’t have to be from Montana to get emotional about the rivalry — just ask Choke Artist Dalton Snead.
Proof that you have to be from Montana to gain the edge in the rivalry game — just ask Jake Bleskin. It’s a silly topic. There’s no there there.
And yet you keep coming back "there" with your pathetic silly examples basically trashing former athletes. Your posts continue to make you look like a small and petty person. Go find a hobby more worthy of a man of your heritage, stature and intelligence.
Can’t expect much from OldJizz. He clearly has never played the game.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Cataholic » Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:32 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:20 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:10 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:39 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:19 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:13 pm
Not fair examples? You are kind of tossing Tommy under the bus there. You are saying we shouldn’t have expected him to play well because it was a big game?
I'm saying that Tommy got tight before virtually all big games, so using him as an example that's characteristic of all MT born players isn't really fair.
I never said one chokes, they all choke. Many, many, many Montana-born players in both programs rise to the occasion in the rivalry game. And so do many non-native Montanans. I think what you say about Tommy kind of illustrates TexasBuiltBobcat’s point. McDowell wasn’t raised in the heat (or the venom) of the rivalry, so he didn’t carry that kind of baggage to trip over.
Poor Ah Yat. Growing up as a legacy child of a Gris great who played in the game. The pressure of the rivalry has to be overwhelming. As you said, he will have lots of “baggage of the rivalry” to trip over.
You could be absolutely right. We’ll get to see because it’s why they play the game. If he’s wired like Tommy Turnover and throws to the wrong colored jersey in the big game, the Griz are toast.
I just thought you would have more confidence in Ah Yuck. Another turncoat PCP Panda fan turning on their players. That sucks!
Where did I turn on him? I said we shall see. It’s funny how an open mind and objectivity are confusing to Bobcatnation. We won’t know until game day if he’s closer to his dad (whose 1997 performance in the rivalry game sent Cat fans into thumb-sucking floor fetal position for years) or closer to Mellott. I’m certainly hoping for the former.
So you are arguing that the game didn’t mean much to McDowell so he played well and won? Wouldn’t that mean AhYuck is doomed because of all the pressure? So disappointing that a Panda would turn on his QB. You guys are terrible fans.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Joe Bobcat » Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:37 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:26 pm
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:46 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:29 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:58 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:35 am
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:08 am
Not controversial. Simply unsubstantiated. For every example in favor of the argument, there is an example against it (see Clifton McDowell — Tommy Turnover example from 2023).
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:04 am
Ok so let me put it to you this way.

If everything else is equal (overall quality of players, schematic approach, etc.) and the Griz are heading into the Brawl, would you prefer that have zero key players from MT, lots of key players from MT, or no preference?
I'm still curious to know your answer.
Proof that you don’t have to be from Montana to get emotional about the rivalry — just ask Choke Artist Dalton Snead.
Proof that you have to be from Montana to gain the edge in the rivalry game — just ask Jake Bleskin. It’s a silly topic. There’s no there there.
And yet you keep coming back "there" with your pathetic silly examples basically trashing former athletes. Your posts continue to make you look like a small and petty person. Go find a hobby more worthy of a man of your heritage, stature and intelligence.
Can’t expect much from OldJizz. He clearly has never played the game.
:lol: :thumbup:


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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by OldGriz » Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:24 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:32 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:20 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:10 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:39 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:19 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:13 pm
Not fair examples? You are kind of tossing Tommy under the bus there. You are saying we shouldn’t have expected him to play well because it was a big game?
I'm saying that Tommy got tight before virtually all big games, so using him as an example that's characteristic of all MT born players isn't really fair.
I never said one chokes, they all choke. Many, many, many Montana-born players in both programs rise to the occasion in the rivalry game. And so do many non-native Montanans. I think what you say about Tommy kind of illustrates TexasBuiltBobcat’s point. McDowell wasn’t raised in the heat (or the venom) of the rivalry, so he didn’t carry that kind of baggage to trip over.
Poor Ah Yat. Growing up as a legacy child of a Gris great who played in the game. The pressure of the rivalry has to be overwhelming. As you said, he will have lots of “baggage of the rivalry” to trip over.
You could be absolutely right. We’ll get to see because it’s why they play the game. If he’s wired like Tommy Turnover and throws to the wrong colored jersey in the big game, the Griz are toast.
I just thought you would have more confidence in Ah Yuck. Another turncoat PCP Panda fan turning on their players. That sucks!
Where did I turn on him? I said we shall see. It’s funny how an open mind and objectivity are confusing to Bobcatnation. We won’t know until game day if he’s closer to his dad (whose 1997 performance in the rivalry game sent Cat fans into thumb-sucking floor fetal position for years) or closer to Mellott. I’m certainly hoping for the former.
So you are arguing that the game didn’t mean much to McDowell so he played well and won? Wouldn’t that mean AhYuck is doomed because of all the pressure? So disappointing that a Panda would turn on his QB. You guys are terrible fans.
You don’t get it. The game meant everything to McDowell and he showed it. What he didn’t care about was what his childhood buddies and his elementary school teachers and his mom’s co-workers thought about the game, because he didn’t have to. He cared solely about the game and none of the extraneous rivalry lore. Tommy, on the other hand, choked on a hairball. You ask if Ah Yat will feel the pressure. We don’t know. If I had an answer for you, I’d be a liar. But I’m starting to get a sense of the kind of fan you are.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Cataholic » Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:20 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:24 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:32 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:20 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:10 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:39 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:19 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:13 pm
Not fair examples? You are kind of tossing Tommy under the bus there. You are saying we shouldn’t have expected him to play well because it was a big game?
I'm saying that Tommy got tight before virtually all big games, so using him as an example that's characteristic of all MT born players isn't really fair.
I never said one chokes, they all choke. Many, many, many Montana-born players in both programs rise to the occasion in the rivalry game. And so do many non-native Montanans. I think what you say about Tommy kind of illustrates TexasBuiltBobcat’s point. McDowell wasn’t raised in the heat (or the venom) of the rivalry, so he didn’t carry that kind of baggage to trip over.
Poor Ah Yat. Growing up as a legacy child of a Gris great who played in the game. The pressure of the rivalry has to be overwhelming. As you said, he will have lots of “baggage of the rivalry” to trip over.
You could be absolutely right. We’ll get to see because it’s why they play the game. If he’s wired like Tommy Turnover and throws to the wrong colored jersey in the big game, the Griz are toast.
I just thought you would have more confidence in Ah Yuck. Another turncoat PCP Panda fan turning on their players. That sucks!
Where did I turn on him? I said we shall see. It’s funny how an open mind and objectivity are confusing to Bobcatnation. We won’t know until game day if he’s closer to his dad (whose 1997 performance in the rivalry game sent Cat fans into thumb-sucking floor fetal position for years) or closer to Mellott. I’m certainly hoping for the former.
So you are arguing that the game didn’t mean much to McDowell so he played well and won? Wouldn’t that mean AhYuck is doomed because of all the pressure? So disappointing that a Panda would turn on his QB. You guys are terrible fans.
You don’t get it. The game meant everything to McDowell and he showed it. What he didn’t care about was what his childhood buddies and his elementary school teachers and his mom’s co-workers thought about the game, because he didn’t have to. He cared solely about the game and none of the extraneous rivalry lore. Tommy, on the other hand, choked on a hairball. You ask if Ah Yat will feel the pressure. We don’t know. If I had an answer for you, I’d be a liar. But I’m starting to get a sense of the kind of fan you are.
Coming from a person who knows Tommy personally, you have zero idea what you are talking about. What a moronic take by a moronic troll. And that game meant so much to McDowell that he left the program. :lol: :lol: :lol: Since you never played the game, you wouldn’t know. Your idea of rivalry is posting on a rivals board. :lol: :lol:



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by OldGriz » Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:30 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:20 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:24 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:32 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:20 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:10 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:39 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:19 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:13 pm
Not fair examples? You are kind of tossing Tommy under the bus there. You are saying we shouldn’t have expected him to play well because it was a big game?
I'm saying that Tommy got tight before virtually all big games, so using him as an example that's characteristic of all MT born players isn't really fair.
I never said one chokes, they all choke. Many, many, many Montana-born players in both programs rise to the occasion in the rivalry game. And so do many non-native Montanans. I think what you say about Tommy kind of illustrates TexasBuiltBobcat’s point. McDowell wasn’t raised in the heat (or the venom) of the rivalry, so he didn’t carry that kind of baggage to trip over.
Poor Ah Yat. Growing up as a legacy child of a Gris great who played in the game. The pressure of the rivalry has to be overwhelming. As you said, he will have lots of “baggage of the rivalry” to trip over.
You could be absolutely right. We’ll get to see because it’s why they play the game. If he’s wired like Tommy Turnover and throws to the wrong colored jersey in the big game, the Griz are toast.
I just thought you would have more confidence in Ah Yuck. Another turncoat PCP Panda fan turning on their players. That sucks!
Where did I turn on him? I said we shall see. It’s funny how an open mind and objectivity are confusing to Bobcatnation. We won’t know until game day if he’s closer to his dad (whose 1997 performance in the rivalry game sent Cat fans into thumb-sucking floor fetal position for years) or closer to Mellott. I’m certainly hoping for the former.
So you are arguing that the game didn’t mean much to McDowell so he played well and won? Wouldn’t that mean AhYuck is doomed because of all the pressure? So disappointing that a Panda would turn on his QB. You guys are terrible fans.
You don’t get it. The game meant everything to McDowell and he showed it. What he didn’t care about was what his childhood buddies and his elementary school teachers and his mom’s co-workers thought about the game, because he didn’t have to. He cared solely about the game and none of the extraneous rivalry lore. Tommy, on the other hand, choked on a hairball. You ask if Ah Yat will feel the pressure. We don’t know. If I had an answer for you, I’d be a liar. But I’m starting to get a sense of the kind of fan you are.
Coming from a person who knows Tommy personally, you have zero idea what you are talking about. What a moronic take by a moronic troll. And that game meant so much to McDowell that he left the program. :lol: :lol: :lol: Since you never played the game, you wouldn’t know. Your idea of rivalry is posting on a rivals board. :lol: :lol:
Wait what … you know a former player personally? For real? None of us are worthy of arguing with such an elite jock sniffer. :bow:



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by tdub » Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:47 pm

Seems like it was about this time last year when PR/Hoops/OG, or whatever his latest screen name is, had to go bye-bye. And created this user name a couple days before his previous user name’s last post. So look for another new name to pop up here soon while OG goes off the rails. I’ve seen this movie before.


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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Cataholic » Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:02 pm

OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:30 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:20 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:24 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:32 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:20 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:10 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:50 pm
OldGriz wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:39 pm
MrGoodKat wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:19 pm


I'm saying that Tommy got tight before virtually all big games, so using him as an example that's characteristic of all MT born players isn't really fair.
I never said one chokes, they all choke. Many, many, many Montana-born players in both programs rise to the occasion in the rivalry game. And so do many non-native Montanans. I think what you say about Tommy kind of illustrates TexasBuiltBobcat’s point. McDowell wasn’t raised in the heat (or the venom) of the rivalry, so he didn’t carry that kind of baggage to trip over.
Poor Ah Yat. Growing up as a legacy child of a Gris great who played in the game. The pressure of the rivalry has to be overwhelming. As you said, he will have lots of “baggage of the rivalry” to trip over.
You could be absolutely right. We’ll get to see because it’s why they play the game. If he’s wired like Tommy Turnover and throws to the wrong colored jersey in the big game, the Griz are toast.
I just thought you would have more confidence in Ah Yuck. Another turncoat PCP Panda fan turning on their players. That sucks!
Where did I turn on him? I said we shall see. It’s funny how an open mind and objectivity are confusing to Bobcatnation. We won’t know until game day if he’s closer to his dad (whose 1997 performance in the rivalry game sent Cat fans into thumb-sucking floor fetal position for years) or closer to Mellott. I’m certainly hoping for the former.
So you are arguing that the game didn’t mean much to McDowell so he played well and won? Wouldn’t that mean AhYuck is doomed because of all the pressure? So disappointing that a Panda would turn on his QB. You guys are terrible fans.
You don’t get it. The game meant everything to McDowell and he showed it. What he didn’t care about was what his childhood buddies and his elementary school teachers and his mom’s co-workers thought about the game, because he didn’t have to. He cared solely about the game and none of the extraneous rivalry lore. Tommy, on the other hand, choked on a hairball. You ask if Ah Yat will feel the pressure. We don’t know. If I had an answer for you, I’d be a liar. But I’m starting to get a sense of the kind of fan you are.
Coming from a person who knows Tommy personally, you have zero idea what you are talking about. What a moronic take by a moronic troll. And that game meant so much to McDowell that he left the program. :lol: :lol: :lol: Since you never played the game, you wouldn’t know. Your idea of rivalry is posting on a rivals board. :lol: :lol:
Wait what … you know a former player personally? For real? None of us are worthy of arguing with such an elite jock sniffer. :bow:
Your post is truly hilarious. You are known as the ultimate jock sniffer wanna be at egriz. There must be a thousand jokes about your creeping of the athletes. Having them up to your lake house, etc. You have been a egris running joke in that regard for years!

I don’t have an egris account, but could someone please post this at that cesspool. It will probably bring out about a million posts on Oldjizzs crazy obsession with the players.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by kwcat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:08 am

A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
For sake of thread length, maybe we can separate the two discussions that are covered on this video clip.




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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by MrGoodKat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:17 am

Tripp talks some in this pod about how the Griz rotate subs in early and it prevents them from boat racing teams. I’ve heard a lot of Griz fans cite that as the reason why they’re winning games a lot closer than the Cats.

What’s so funny to me about that is that virtually no one rotates like the Bobcats. They play backups like crazy— even in 1st quarters. The difference is that their subs dominate on a level fairy comparable to their starters.

So I have no doubt that Bobby is rotating and that it partially explains UM’s slumps after Q1. But it’s certainly not true that MSU blows teams out just because they keep their ones in all game.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by BobcatBuiltTexan » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:00 am

MrGoodKat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:17 am
Tripp talks some in this pod about how the Griz rotate subs in early and it prevents them from boat racing teams. I’ve heard a lot of Griz fans cite that as the reason why they’re winning games a lot closer than the Cats.

What’s so funny to me about that is that virtually no one rotates like the Bobcats. They play backups like crazy— even in 1st quarters. The difference is that their subs dominate on a level fairy comparable to their starters.

So I have no doubt that Bobby is rotating and that it partially explains UM’s slumps after Q1. But it’s certainly not true that MSU blows teams out just because they keep their ones in all game.
Yeah that's a huge excuse for not dominating. The cats are rotating starting in Q1. The starting cbs get 2 series then they put in the 2s, after that they are rotating all game. The DL is rotating DURING the first drive. We rotate rbs consistently all game. Our 2s are better than most other teams 1s is the difference.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by MrGoodKat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:15 am

BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:00 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:17 am
Tripp talks some in this pod about how the Griz rotate subs in early and it prevents them from boat racing teams. I’ve heard a lot of Griz fans cite that as the reason why they’re winning games a lot closer than the Cats.

What’s so funny to me about that is that virtually no one rotates like the Bobcats. They play backups like crazy— even in 1st quarters. The difference is that their subs dominate on a level fairy comparable to their starters.

So I have no doubt that Bobby is rotating and that it partially explains UM’s slumps after Q1. But it’s certainly not true that MSU blows teams out just because they keep their ones in all game.
Yeah that's a huge excuse for not dominating. The cats are rotating starting in Q1. The starting cbs get 2 series then they put in the 2s, after that they are rotating all game. The DL is rotating DURING the first drive. We rotate rbs consistently all game. Our 2s are better than most other teams 1s is the difference.
Exactly.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by catscat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:38 am

MrGoodKat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:17 am
Tripp talks some in this pod about how the Griz rotate subs in early and it prevents them from boat racing teams. I’ve heard a lot of Griz fans cite that as the reason why they’re winning games a lot closer than the Cats.

What’s so funny to me about that is that virtually no one rotates like the Bobcats. They play backups like crazy— even in 1st quarters. The difference is that their subs dominate on a level fairy comparable to their starters.

So I have no doubt that Bobby is rotating and that it partially explains UM’s slumps after Q1. But it’s certainly not true that MSU blows teams out just because they keep their ones in all game.
Well, that explains why the gris almost lost to EWU and ISU - the subs were playing. Subs played the whole first half against Cal Poly. :-^

Frankly, if playing subs is why the gris are not running up scores, that is a real turn around from past years.


Can't make up my mind as to which is better - 55-21 or 48-14, but 34-11 will do.

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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Slackjaw » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:45 am

kwcat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 8:08 am
A lot to unpack here in regards to UC Davis, as well as Cat Griz. Definitely worth the listen if you know what to expect. Jordan trip is well spoken and a smart football player. Lots to learn for the average listener about the team over the hill and how they think. I’ll probably post this in multiple spots.
For sake of thread length, maybe we can separate the two discussions that are covered on this video clip.

Holy crap, I had to tap out after 20 minutes. Honestly ashamed I lasted that long. It was like a full-blown group therapy session for Griz fans trying to convince themselves that barely beating EWU is fine. Dude was literally on a couch, full therapist vibes. “Tell me you’re not worried” by spending 20+ minutes explaining why you’re not worried. I hope all Griz fans feel heard after that. Wonder what Colter charges per hour for that session. That was so bad!


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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by MrGoodKat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:53 am

catscat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:38 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:17 am
Tripp talks some in this pod about how the Griz rotate subs in early and it prevents them from boat racing teams. I’ve heard a lot of Griz fans cite that as the reason why they’re winning games a lot closer than the Cats.

What’s so funny to me about that is that virtually no one rotates like the Bobcats. They play backups like crazy— even in 1st quarters. The difference is that their subs dominate on a level fairy comparable to their starters.

So I have no doubt that Bobby is rotating and that it partially explains UM’s slumps after Q1. But it’s certainly not true that MSU blows teams out just because they keep their ones in all game.
Well, that explains why the gris almost lost to EWU and ISU - the subs were playing. Subs played the whole first half against Cal Poly. :-^

Frankly, if playing subs is why the gris are not running up scores, that is a real turn around from past years.
I'm totally willing to accept that the Griz could win by bigger margins if they used their first string 100% of the time.

But where their argument breaks down is in the assumption/implication that MSU does play their starters constantly. That's simply not true. Both teams rotate subs in. The Cats win by larger margins because their depth is so much better. And they also could run scores up higher if they played their starters. Could you imagine what would have happened in the Weber game if they left their first string in the whole time and attempted to run up the score? They would have hit 80+.



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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by coloradocat » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:57 am

https://herosports.com/fcs-2025-pff-hig ... s-11-bzbz/

PFF isn't a legitimate system of evaluating anything but it's still interesting that the "amazing" griz offense doesn't show up on any of the lists.


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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by Montanabob » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:00 am

coloradocat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:57 am
https://herosports.com/fcs-2025-pff-hig ... s-11-bzbz/

PFF isn't a legitimate system of evaluating anything but it's still interesting that the "amazing" griz offense doesn't show up on any of the lists.
or our defense only show up in one spot?


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Re: How do Cats stack up against Griz

Post by BobcatBuiltTexan » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:07 am

catscat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:38 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:17 am
Tripp talks some in this pod about how the Griz rotate subs in early and it prevents them from boat racing teams. I’ve heard a lot of Griz fans cite that as the reason why they’re winning games a lot closer than the Cats.

What’s so funny to me about that is that virtually no one rotates like the Bobcats. They play backups like crazy— even in 1st quarters. The difference is that their subs dominate on a level fairy comparable to their starters.

So I have no doubt that Bobby is rotating and that it partially explains UM’s slumps after Q1. But it’s certainly not true that MSU blows teams out just because they keep their ones in all game.
Well, that explains why the gris almost lost to EWU and ISU - the subs were playing. Subs played the whole first half against Cal Poly. :-^

Frankly, if playing subs is why the gris are not running up scores, that is a real turn around from past years.
Sounds like some really bad coaching decisions if you are barely beating teams because you are playing backups. Sounds like they SHOULD be playing the starters more to create the gap THEN play your back ups when you know you have the game in hand. Because what are you going to do when you HAVE to play your starters the most of the game?? fatigue, mental lapses, potential injuries due to NOT playing through full games. Sounds like a dereliction of duty if you ask me to put your team in a position to lose a game by playing guys who aren't quite ready. You also are showing that you DON'T have depth, which would become part of my game plan in playing you. I would do everything I could to wear down your 1s so I can get your 2s because they obviously aren't anywhere near as good as the 1s......



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