Vigen Oregon State rumors.

[GavinDonos]

It just sucks all around, with us doing NIL with the same demand on capital campaigns and auctions and everything else. (Sorry, I am a Billy Booster) I don’t have a billion dollar business, but I want us to achieve and keep pace.

[nanacat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

[coloradocat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

I hope you're right but this also isn't Vigen's first coaching job, he's moved twice already. The move up to Bozeman was much more disruptive than moving to Corvallis or Fort Collins would be. I'm sure he and Molly said all the right things when they lived in Laramie too.

[Bobcatsinmso]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

The almost exact same scenario existed with our last head coach. I was surprised and disappointed when JC jumped ship. I also hope coach Vigen sticks around, but the bottom line is Money talks, and I will not be surprised or disappointed again when he leaves.

[MSU01]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

I believe Vigen's youngest son is a high school freshman this year. But really, none of us know what's going on in his head or what his thought process would be about moving to another job. People here thought Jeff Choate wouldn't leave until Jory was done playing for MSU, but that obviously didn't end up being the case. It has been reported from reliable sources that Vigen has had interviews elsewhere in previous years, so that suggests that he's at least somewhat open to the idea of taking a new job at some point. The good news and the reason I won't be worrying about this in October is that MSU has an Athletic Director who has consistently made great hires and who I trust fully to bring in a new coach who can continue to bring a high level of success even if Vigen does move on.

[coloradocat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

The almost exact same scenario existed with our last head coach. I was surprised and disappointed when JC jumped ship. I also hope coach Vigen sticks around, but the bottom line is Money talks, and I will not be surprised or disappointed again when he leaves.

And even more than the money, it's about career advancement. MSU is a great FCS job but it's still just an FCS job. Every head coach is very competitive and aspirational. MSU isn't the end goal and neither is OSU or CSU but they are solid steps along the way to whatever the end goal may be. A G6 job pays more than top tier FCS but isn't the equivalent of winning the lottery (P4 job).

[Prodigal Cat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

I believe Vigen's youngest son is a high school freshman this year. But really, none of us know what's going on in his head or what his thought process would be about moving to another job. People here thought Jeff Choate wouldn't leave until Jory was done playing for MSU, but that obviously didn't end up being the case. It has been reported from reliable sources that Vigen has had interviews elsewhere in previous years, so that suggests that he's at least somewhat open to the idea of taking a new job at some point. The good news and the reason I won't be worrying about this in October is that MSU has an Athletic Director who has consistently made great hires and who I trust fully to bring in a new coach who can continue to bring a high level of success even if Vigen does move on.

While totally true and valid, I think comparing Choate to Vigen isn't fair. Choate has changed jobs in coaching every few seasons and this is only the third stop in what... 25 years for BV? Plus the way he changed, following his mentor to Wyoming really makes MSU his second job. To your other point though if we do lose Vigen, I would want it to happen with Leon making the decision on the next guy. His record is pretty damn good. Not that the next AD would be bad. I'm just pretty sure most of us here would have confidence that LC would get it right.

[nanacat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

I believe Vigen's youngest son is a high school freshman this year. But really, none of us know what's going on in his head or what his thought process would be about moving to another job. People here thought Jeff Choate wouldn't leave until Jory was done playing for MSU, but that obviously didn't end up being the case. It has been reported from reliable sources that Vigen has had interviews elsewhere in previous years, so that suggests that he's at least somewhat open to the idea of taking a new job at some point. The good news and the reason I won't be worrying about this in October is that MSU has an Athletic Director who has consistently made great hires and who I trust fully to bring in a new coach who can continue to bring a high level of success even if Vigen does move on.

While totally true and valid, I think comparing Choate to Vigen isn't fair. Choate has changed jobs in coaching every few seasons and this is only the third stop in what... 25 years for BV? Plus the way he changed, following his mentor to Wyoming really makes MSU his second job. To your other point though if we do lose Vigen, I would want it to happen with Leon making the decision on the next guy. His record is pretty damn good. Not that the next AD would be bad. I'm just pretty sure most of us here would have confidence that LC would get it right.

You made a point I intended to make but didn't do it as well as you did, regarding how many times Vigen has moved. He just seems to have had more stick than others, certainly more than Choate, who seems to be constantly searching for the next best thing. I'm not saying Vigen will stay forever, but I think there are still goals he has for this program that haven't been met yet. I'm hoping winning in Missoula is one of those! And, of course, a National Championship. Guess we'll see.

[AFCAT]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

I believe Vigen's youngest son is a high school freshman this year. But really, none of us know what's going on in his head or what his thought process would be about moving to another job. People here thought Jeff Choate wouldn't leave until Jory was done playing for MSU, but that obviously didn't end up being the case. It has been reported from reliable sources that Vigen has had interviews elsewhere in previous years, so that suggests that he's at least somewhat open to the idea of taking a new job at some point. The good news and the reason I won't be worrying about this in October is that MSU has an Athletic Director who has consistently made great hires and who I trust fully to bring in a new coach who can continue to bring a high level of success even if Vigen does move on.

While totally true and valid, I think comparing Choate to Vigen isn't fair. Choate has changed jobs in coaching every few seasons and this is only the third stop in what... 25 years for BV? Plus the way he changed, following his mentor to Wyoming really makes MSU his second job. To your other point though if we do lose Vigen, I would want it to happen with Leon making the decision on the next guy. His record is pretty damn good. Not that the next AD would be bad. I'm just pretty sure most of us here would have confidence that LC would get it right.

Now, think about how close we came to having Kyle Brennan as the Athletic Director instead of Leon.

[tetoncat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

The almost exact same scenario existed with our last head coach. I was surprised and disappointed when JC jumped ship. I also hope coach Vigen sticks around, but the bottom line is Money talks, and I will not be surprised or disappointed again when he leaves.

And even more than the money, it's about career advancement. MSU is a great FCS job but it's still just an FCS job. Every head coach is very competitive and aspirational. MSU isn't the end goal and neither is OSU or CSU but they are solid steps along the way to whatever the end goal may be. A G6 job pays more than top tier FCS but isn't the equivalent of winning the lottery (P4 job).

Not every coach. Some stay high school coaches forever. Montana NAIA have had some good ones stay a long time. Some are career assistant. There are definitely those who chase the profession, moving a lot and trying to reach the peak. Others may take opportunities but are happy where they are and doing what they do.

[Prodigal Cat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

I believe Vigen's youngest son is a high school freshman this year. But really, none of us know what's going on in his head or what his thought process would be about moving to another job. People here thought Jeff Choate wouldn't leave until Jory was done playing for MSU, but that obviously didn't end up being the case. It has been reported from reliable sources that Vigen has had interviews elsewhere in previous years, so that suggests that he's at least somewhat open to the idea of taking a new job at some point. The good news and the reason I won't be worrying about this in October is that MSU has an Athletic Director who has consistently made great hires and who I trust fully to bring in a new coach who can continue to bring a high level of success even if Vigen does move on.

While totally true and valid, I think comparing Choate to Vigen isn't fair. Choate has changed jobs in coaching every few seasons and this is only the third stop in what... 25 years for BV? Plus the way he changed, following his mentor to Wyoming really makes MSU his second job. To your other point though if we do lose Vigen, I would want it to happen with Leon making the decision on the next guy. His record is pretty damn good. Not that the next AD would be bad. I'm just pretty sure most of us here would have confidence that LC would get it right.

Now, think about how close we came to having Kyle Brennan as the Athletic Director instead of Leon.

As bad as the rumors that Charlie Ragle was the leader to be the head coach after Choate left.

[catscat]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

The almost exact same scenario existed with our last head coach. I was surprised and disappointed when JC jumped ship. I also hope coach Vigen sticks around, but the bottom line is Money talks, and I will not be surprised or disappointed again when he leaves.

And even more than the money, it's about career advancement. MSU is a great FCS job but it's still just an FCS job. Every head coach is very competitive and aspirational. MSU isn't the end goal and neither is OSU or CSU but they are solid steps along the way to whatever the end goal may be. A G6 job pays more than top tier FCS but isn't the equivalent of winning the lottery (P4 job).

Not every coach. Some stay high school coaches forever. Montana NAIA have had some good ones stay a long time. Some are career assistant. There are definitely those who chase the profession, moving a lot and trying to reach the peak. Others may take opportunities but are happy where they are and doing what they do.

Based on the length of his tenure in past positions, I'm guessing that Vigen enjoys developing players and assistant coaches. Therefore, any job that looks like a whole new team every year may not be appealing. Either way, enjoying what you are doing vs more money has to be a consideration.

[MSU01]

I know opportunity and cash speak volumes, large volumes, but as a family man, does that play a role ever? Vigen has two sons on the team, and sure, they could go with him wherever he goes, and likely would. But he also has a younger son, not sure his age, who has been here, made friends and connections, etc., let alone his wife being settled in here. It comes with the territory I suppose, being ready to move at any given time, but the vibe I got last year from some of the interviews and statements made by Molly in particular, made me think they really like Bozeman, it's home. Not to say the perfect opportunity couldn't come along and make them pack their bags, but I feel like it really needs to be the "perfect" opportunity. Vigen is building something in Bozeman, has been, and until all the boxes get checked, which they haven't yet, I think he sticks around.

The almost exact same scenario existed with our last head coach. I was surprised and disappointed when JC jumped ship. I also hope coach Vigen sticks around, but the bottom line is Money talks, and I will not be surprised or disappointed again when he leaves.

And even more than the money, it's about career advancement. MSU is a great FCS job but it's still just an FCS job. Every head coach is very competitive and aspirational. MSU isn't the end goal and neither is OSU or CSU but they are solid steps along the way to whatever the end goal may be. A G6 job pays more than top tier FCS but isn't the equivalent of winning the lottery (P4 job).

Not every coach. Some stay high school coaches forever. Montana NAIA have had some good ones stay a long time. Some are career assistant. There are definitely those who chase the profession, moving a lot and trying to reach the peak. Others may take opportunities but are happy where they are and doing what they do.

Based on the length of his tenure in past positions, I'm guessing that Vigen enjoys developing players and assistant coaches. Therefore, any job that looks like a whole new team every year may not be appealing. Either way, enjoying what you are doing vs more money has to be a consideration.

Vigen also had a sweet deal when he came to MSU in that he inherited a team with a pretty stacked roster that had been to the FCS Semifinals in 2019, and while the Transfer Portal existed at that point it wasn't yet the total free-for-all it is today with unlimited transfers allowed. Going somewhere like Oregon State that would be a complete rebuild would certainly be a very different challenge than it was when he had players like Tommy Mellott, Lance McCutcheon, Daniel Hardy and Troy Andersen already on the roster to work with.