Good, bad, and ugly Oregon edition

[Colter_Nuanez]

[TomCat88]

McMillan had a poor tackle attempt later in the game that allowed a TD but he had a couple other good ones as well.

[BelligerentBobcat]

McMillan had a poor tackle attempt later in the game that allowed a TD but he had a couple other good ones as well.

That’s exactly what you want to see from a young player. Despite what some people think, they’re going to make mistakes. Going to make bad plays, bad decisions, etc. They’re also going to make some good ones! And over time, more good than bad. Failures are how you learn.

[nevadacat]

Reflecting on the game, I actually love what I saw for the most part. I think fans will have more growing pains than the team, especially with the new offensive look. I was actually blown away with Grays speed when he ran down their running back on a breakaway. He was blowing the doors off everyone until he ran him down.

My wife made me stop the TV and back up on that play. She said, “There was somebody coming like a missile!” She was right and it was Gray. Not only did he chase him down from way behind, he didn’t quit, and he didn’t overrun him when he got there. He stayed under control and made a good tackle. Another ‘Cat helped by causing the Duck to change direction slightly. Very impressive performance by Gray. I hope they had the digital speedometer on him!

You computer guys just can’t do analog, huh?

[Helcat72]

I think DB'S like McMillan were making business decisions when tackling Sadiq in the open field. I'm not sure you can blame him for throwing his 170 lb body at him instead of wrapping up and dislocating his shoulders.

That wasn’t McMillan on the TD. And that was Sadiq’s only catch. He also had a three yard run.

"like" McMillian...smallish.
That was Williams or Meridith (hard to tell 6 from 8. ) that went high and bounced off Sadiq. I meant to comment on the fact that McMillian usually went low on ball carriers.

[wbtfg]

Bad: Tackling. I know some on here are arguing this point but I saw a few instances where we just went for the hit and did NOT focus on tackling to the ground.

I hate to keep belaboring this, but I've spent some time on this and just want to see what I'm missing for future reference. I'm not football genius, but I've gone threw the game twice now and haven't seen this. Can you point these plays out? I ID'd four missed tackles and a couple plays that were more the offensive player making a great move than a missed tackle.

I think people need to realize the other team is trying too and that lots of the so-called missed tackles are when a player is fighting his way through a block and despite getting through it doesn't have the leverage to make a strong tackle attempt. Like I said earlier, this is like people yelling "Block Out!!" at basketball games when the reality is the player did block out, however, the ball came off the rim long and there was no way the player could get it.

There were quite a few others too. We got hurdled at least once….i think twice.

Also lost leverage on the edge a few times.

Not saying we can’t clean it up, but missed tackles really stood out to me in this game.

[TomCat88]

Good:
During MSU's TD drive late in the game when Oregon had their "scrubs" in, the Ducks had two 5-star, six/seven 4-star and two 3-star players on the field. I might not have caught them all, but the players I saw were:
2 - Lopa 6-5, 210 DB 4*
11 - Fields 6-2, 200 DB 4*
13 - ??? (Oregon has a QB and WR both wearing 13 ???)
14 - Offord 6-1, 195 CB 5* (#1 rated CB in the USA)
15 - Davis 6-0, 197 DB 3*
24 - Grisham 5-11, 204 DB 3*
32 - Wyatt 6-2, 228, LB 4*
33 - Mothudi 6-3, 244, ILB 4*
47 - Rushing 6-6, 275 OLB 5* (AZ #1 recruit)
50 - Gray 6-6, 336 DL 4*
99 - Green 6-5, 330 DL 4*

The 13 might've been an 18. If so, that's Brew a 4* DB, 6-0, 200 and rated #5 nationally at CB.

[Cataholic]

The bad - Agreeing to schedule such a game in today’s portal environment. The upper echelon programs like Oregon are basically professional teams. Our complete nil budget could be consumed by just one of their players. Oregon also attracts the top portal prospects from across the country. They get guys from other P4 and G6 programs. This type of game should never be scheduled again.

The positive - We will not see an opponent anywhere near that level of talent. Oregon will be one of the last teams playing in FBS at the end of the playoffs. They have more guys on that Oregon team that will play professionally than MSU currently has in the NFL right now. Despite the outcome, playing the bigger, faster and stronger Ducks is great prep for next week - minus injuries to Daily and Taki.

[MSU01]

For those wringing their hands over the scoreline of this game, it was only three years ago that MSU lost 68-28 to a lesser Oregon State team and then proceeded to go 12-0 against FCS opposition before (arguably) getting screwed by the playoff committee by being sent to SDSU on the road in the playoff semifinals. R-E-L-A-X.

[Colter_Nuanez]

The bad - Agreeing to schedule such a game in today’s portal environment. The upper echelon programs like Oregon are basically professional teams. Our complete nil budget could be consumed by just one of their players. Oregon also attracts the top portal prospects from across the country. They get guys from other P4 and G6 programs. This type of game should never be scheduled again.

The positive - We will not see an opponent anywhere near that level of talent. Oregon will be one of the last teams playing in FBS at the end of the playoffs. They have more guys on that Oregon team that will play professionally than MSU currently has in the NFL right now. Despite the outcome, playing the bigger, faster and stronger Ducks is great prep for next week - minus injuries to Daily and Taki.

Leon Costello and crew scheduled this game in 2019. I promise you if Leon would’ve known this would be the climate 6+ years later, he wouldn’t have scheduled the game.

[onceacat]

The bad - Agreeing to schedule such a game in today’s portal environment. The upper echelon programs like Oregon are basically professional teams. Our complete nil budget could be consumed by just one of their players. Oregon also attracts the top portal prospects from across the country. They get guys from other P4 and G6 programs. This type of game should never be scheduled again.

The positive - We will not see an opponent anywhere near that level of talent. Oregon will be one of the last teams playing in FBS at the end of the playoffs. They have more guys on that Oregon team that will play professionally than MSU currently has in the NFL right now. Despite the outcome, playing the bigger, faster and stronger Ducks is great prep for next week - minus injuries to Daily and Taki.

LOL, they might have more first rounders on that team than MSU has currently in the NFL.

[onceacat]

@wbtfg

Dude, I saw ONE failure to wrap in 4 separate clips you posted. I guess you could MAYBE add that the Sadiq TD where our 175lb CB bounced off a 235 lb FREAK athlete...

The other ones, nobody was even close enough to make a play, they were blocked & schemed out.

And then, DOUBLE LOL.

You posted the Sadiq TD as an example of bad tacking, even though it was mostly just that the Cat DB went high instead of low & bounced off...but then you claim "being hurdled when you go low" is ALSO bad tackling.

SMH...Bobcat Nation has turned into one of those pages where "Every time a Cat is in the screen & doesn't make a tackle, it's bad tackling."

Dude, thats what it looks like when an FCS team plays a Top 5 FBS team.

[onceacat]

For those wringing their hands over the scoreline of this game, it was only three years ago that MSU lost 68-28 to a lesser Oregon State team and then proceeded to go 12-0 against FCS opposition before (arguably) getting screwed by the playoff committee by being sent to SDSU on the road in the playoff semifinals. R-E-L-A-X.

The Oregon backups are better than SDSU, UM, or Davis (the only possible 50-50 games on the schedule).

The Oregon practice squad is better than the other 8 teams on the schedule.

The only possible time that the Cats will sniff a team as good as the Oregon backups is if they make the chipper.

[BelligerentBobcat]

@wbtfg

Dude, I saw ONE failure to wrap in 4 separate clips you posted. I guess you could MAYBE add that the Sadiq TD where our 175lb CB bounced off a 235 lb FREAK athlete...

The other ones, nobody was even close enough to make a play, they were blocked & schemed out.

And then, DOUBLE LOL.

You posted the Sadiq TD as an example of bad tacking, even though it was mostly just that the Cat DB went high instead of low & bounced off...but then you claim "being hurdled when you go low" is ALSO bad tackling.

SMH...Bobcat Nation has turned into one of those pages where "Every time a Cat is in the screen & doesn't make a tackle, it's bad tackling."

Dude, thats what it looks like when an FCS team plays a Top 5 FBS team.

Thank you!

[BobCatFan]

I only watched the high lights on YouTube. My knowledge is little.

Good: we have a red shirt freshman that started at left tackle for his first start against a top 10 team. He seemed to hold his own. Great job Mr.Zimmer.

Bad: team defense looked slow.

[MSU01]

I only watched the high lights on YouTube. My knowledge is little.

Good: we have a red shirt freshman that started at left tackle for his first start against a top 10 team. He seemed to hold his own. Great job Mr.Zimmer.

Bad: team defense looked slow.

Big 10 defenses will look slow against Oregon.

[Cataholic]

The bad - Agreeing to schedule such a game in today’s portal environment. The upper echelon programs like Oregon are basically professional teams. Our complete nil budget could be consumed by just one of their players. Oregon also attracts the top portal prospects from across the country. They get guys from other P4 and G6 programs. This type of game should never be scheduled again.

The positive - We will not see an opponent anywhere near that level of talent. Oregon will be one of the last teams playing in FBS at the end of the playoffs. They have more guys on that Oregon team that will play professionally than MSU currently has in the NFL right now. Despite the outcome, playing the bigger, faster and stronger Ducks is great prep for next week - minus injuries to Daily and Taki.

LOL, they might have more first rounders on that team than MSU has currently in the NFL.

You are right. Imagine if the Cats had Alex Singleton, Troy Andersen, Daniel Hardy, Lance McCutcheon, Ty Okada and Tommy Mellot all on the same team, and we still would have been overmatched.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Reflecting on the game, I actually love what I saw for the most part. I think fans will have more growing pains than the team, especially with the new offensive look. I was actually blown away with Grays speed when he ran down their running back on a breakaway. He was blowing the doors off everyone until he ran him down.

My wife made me stop the TV and back up on that play. She said, “There was somebody coming like a missile!” She was right and it was Gray. Not only did he chase him down from way behind, he didn’t quit, and he didn’t overrun him when he got there. He stayed under control and made a good tackle. Another ‘Cat helped by causing the Duck to change direction slightly. Very impressive performance by Gray. I hope they had the digital speedometer on him!

You computer guys just can’t do analog, huh?

Nope! All digital, all the time. Ever since I punched my first card in 1967 on an IBM 029. You’ve either got a hole, or you don’t. (No personal belief in hanging chad.)

Truly cannot wait for digital turf, 200 dpi. End all these silly line reviews. Hopefully 0.005” would be better than most officials eyes.

The last analog computer I programmed was about 1969.

[Helcat72]

For those wringing their hands over the scoreline of this game, it was only three years ago that MSU lost 68-28 to a lesser Oregon State team and then proceeded to go 12-0 against FCS opposition before (arguably) getting screwed by the playoff committee by being sent to SDSU on the road in the playoff semifinals. R-E-L-A-X.

The Oregon backups are better than SDSU, UM, or Davis (the only possible 50-50 games on the schedule).

The Oregon practice squad is better than the other 8 teams on the schedule.

The only possible time that the Cats will sniff a team as good as the Oregon backups is if they make the chipper.

Speaking of the chipper...I watched NDSU take Citadel down. They weren't as physical and fast as they were last year. Cole Peyton is a monster and reminds me of the USD QB... certainly no Cam Miller. Their OL is about like ours, and their defense lacks the kind of athletes they had last year. I think SDSU looks better. They play faster.

[gtapp]

The bad - Agreeing to schedule such a game in today’s portal environment. The upper echelon programs like Oregon are basically professional teams. Our complete nil budget could be consumed by just one of their players. Oregon also attracts the top portal prospects from across the country. They get guys from other P4 and G6 programs. This type of game should never be scheduled again.

The positive - We will not see an opponent anywhere near that level of talent. Oregon will be one of the last teams playing in FBS at the end of the playoffs. They have more guys on that Oregon team that will play professionally than MSU currently has in the NFL right now. Despite the outcome, playing the bigger, faster and stronger Ducks is great prep for next week - minus injuries to Daily and Taki.

The good: Scheduling this game!!!! Most years we play Moorhead State or Mercyhurst and we learn nothing about the team and the players learn nothing about themselves. Keep scheduling these type of games!!!! Bring on Ohio State!!!