Tommy to the Raiders

[nanacat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

[SparkCat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

I’m sure they will find a use for Tommy, he was brought in as a gadget guy, they will use him as such. Also, Tommy, as I am bias, has a much higher ceiling than Philips. Tommy will not disappoint

[GoldstoneCat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

[BelligerentBobcat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

It’s relatively common.

[profisme]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

It’s relatively common.

Although it is common, in this case Tommy was drafted for some reason and would be pretty much immediately signed by another team if they tried to sneak him onto their practice squad. Unless Tommy just can't manage to be a gunner or returner, he likely will make the 53-man.

[MSU01]

Barring injury or other unforeseen circumstances I think there's a very high chance that Tommy makes the 53-man roster at least for his first year...the Raiders drafted him completely aware that he is going to need more time to develop as a WR than other players they could have drafted who have been playing that position for many years in high school and college. Maybe there's a chance they try to put him on the Practice Squad which isn't a terrible place to be, and as others have said also allows other teams who may have wanted to draft him to sign him to their active rosters.

[BelligerentBobcat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

It’s relatively common.

Although it is common, in this case Tommy was drafted for some reason and would be pretty much immediately signed by another team if they tried to sneak him onto their practice squad. Unless Tommy just can't manage to be a gunner or returner, he likely will make the 53-man.

Maybe. I’ve seen other reports that teams were surprised he got drafted when he did. I’m hopeful he makes the 53, but it’s really hard to do. Being a 6th round pick is by no means a guarantee of anything. I’d say the vast majority of the time a late round pick doesn’t make the opening day roster, he goes to that teams practice squad rather than getting signed to another teams 53.

[GoldstoneCat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

It’s relatively common.

I don't agree it's that common in the first year after a guy gets drafted. It's not. But especially so in Tommy's case, with his traits. He won't last on the practice squad. Someone will sign him.

[catatac]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

It’s relatively common.

Yup. My AI assistant says, 1-3 very high likelihood of making the 53. 4-5 moderate chance of making. 6-7 lower likelihood of making the 53 man roster, "Often requiring exceptional performance to secure a spot. That's what th data shows.... but, Tommy.

[BelligerentBobcat]

From the bits of OTA's and minicamp I see on youtube, they don't have Mellott catching passes anymore. They did at first but not lately. He stands with the receivers but isn't participating. He's one of several guys catching punts and probably playing defensive special teams, but it seems they've written him off as a receiver this year. Granted, I'm going off a handful of youtube videos over the past couple weeks, but they should be working him into drills if they're serious about him playing WR this year. So maybe this year will be special teams, including some gadget plays in punt formation. I think he makes a 53-man squad somewhere, because it's likely that another team grabs him if the Raiders try to put him on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly seems comfortable with Kyle Philips as a slot player and punt returner. Philips played for Kelly at UCLA and the Raiders signed him two weeks after Chip was hired. I think Tommy's talent will shine over the course of a season, but can only imagine the learning curve he's on right now. Man, am I following the Raiders closely now...

I too have been looking for Tommy on videos posted and am not seeing him as much. I sure hope they keep him and find a spot to use him. All the kudos right now are focused on Jeanty and Thornton, and Bech too. Haven't seen much on Miller either lately. I'm sure the learning curve is tremendous.

Chip Kelly bringing in his guy from UCLA may make it difficult for Tommy to win the kick/punt return job. He’s going to have to excel as a gunner on punt team IMO to make the 53 as I see it. He can hit and would have been all-time great MSU safety had QB not worked out. Practice squad is close to a lock if he gets cuts, though. Too many raw skills and athleticism to not keep for the season and develop.

Cam Miller is going to have to have the fall camp of a lifetime to make the practice squad. Of the two, Tommy seems the most likely to actually play games that matter for LV in the future.

Also remember that most of my fellow Raider fans want videos of the top draft picks and veterans in those shorts posts, so not seeing 19 on video doesn’t mean he isn’t in the pass catching drills.

Good points all. Thanks!

Miller will likely either be a 3rd qb or practice squad. I think Tommy will be on the 53. Whether he's active on gameday will depend on their needs on specials but I don't expect them to pick him in the 6th and cut him from the active the first fall. Someone would sign him off the PS to their 53 on speed alone.

It’s relatively common.

I don't agree it's that common in the first year after a guy gets drafted. It's not. But especially so in Tommy's case, with his traits. He won't last on the practice squad. Someone will sign him.

In rounds 6-7?

A fair number of those guys don’t make the opening day 53. It’s certainly not uncommon.