DC Daly reported to UTEP

[Bozcat003]

Any chance we could talk Clay Bignell out being the DB coach at New Mexico and come back here as DB's / Co-Coordinator?

[wbtfg]

The Bobcats won more games in the 2024 regular season than UTEP has won over the past 3 seasons combined. Going from MSU to UTEP has the same energy as going from MSU to New Mexico.

Was Daly one of the coaches who were all living together because of Bozeman’s ridiculous housing costs? I wouldn’t stay long either but I’d rather have a younger staff that is motivated than older guys looking for a last stop before retirement.

Bobby and his wife own a home in Bozeman.

[nanacat]

I imagine Vigen knew this was coming? Usually doesn't happen overnight and if he has the same transparency perspective with coaches as he seeks to have with players, chances are he's already reached out to someone from outside the program, or has had talks with in-house coaches about moving up...right?

[superbobcat]

Other thing to remember is Texas is a low personal property tax and athletes and coaches like to take jobs there because of tax breaks.Bobby will probably making pretty good coin.

[MSU01]

I imagine Vigen knew this was coming? Usually doesn't happen overnight and if he has the same transparency perspective with coaches as he seeks to have with players, chances are he's already reached out to someone from outside the program, or has had talks with in-house coaches about moving up...right?

I'd imagine it was somewhat of a surprise as UTEP's former DC left only a week ago to join the Dallas Cowboys staff. That said I think any competent coach always keeps a list of potential assistant hires should the need arise. No need to worry, Vigen has pretty consistently made high quality hires for his staff with one notable and high profile exception. And that's a mistake I highly doubt he'll make again.

[tetoncat]

The Bobcats won more games in the 2024 regular season than UTEP has won over the past 3 seasons combined. Going from MSU to UTEP has the same energy as going from MSU to New Mexico.

Was Daly one of the coaches who were all living together because of Bozeman’s ridiculous housing costs? I wouldn’t stay long either but I’d rather have a younger staff that is motivated than older guys looking for a last stop before retirement.

Daly is married and has a daughter, so I have my doubts he is living with a bunch of other coaches. You never know for sure these days though.

And amazingly sometimes these coaches spouses actually have jobs. And can help with housing and living expenses.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Ugh, this off season has just sucked in so many ways

Well, at least there’s a huge, massive, game changing gift that’s definitely absolutely for sure coming that’ll offset the brutal wound that was losing the chipper, and the salt in that wound that was losing nearly all our proven talent and both our coordinators!!

You have an odd definition of "nearly all". Would you like the full list of major contributors to the 2024 team who will be back next year? Happy to type one out for you.

I apologize, there was a lot of bitter sarcasm in my statement. We have a lot of good talent coming back, and we should perpetually be a top 4 team. Just some sour grapes.

[tetoncat]

Ugh, this off season has just sucked in so many ways

Well, at least there’s a huge, massive, game changing gift that’s definitely absolutely for sure coming that’ll offset the brutal wound that was losing the chipper, and the salt in that wound that was losing nearly all our proven talent and both our coordinators!!

You have an odd definition of "nearly all". Would you like the full list of major contributors to the 2024 team who will be back next year? Happy to type one out for you.

I apologize, there was a lot of bitter sarcasm in my statement. We have a lot of good talent coming back, and we should perpetually be a top 4 team. Just some sour grapes.

Your other point about a game changing gift also cracks me up. So many people on here upset because someone mentioned it and expected an announcement immediately. There was never an indication it was NIL, facility, scholarships. Not sure why everyone is so pessimistic about it now. Why would the OP mention if there wasn't some chance of a gift coming.

[PortlandCat90]

Other thing to remember is Texas is a low personal property tax and athletes and coaches like to take jobs there because of tax breaks.Bobby will probably making pretty good coin.

I assume you are referring to personal income tax in Texas, for which there is none if you handle it correctly. Personal property tax in Texas is locally assessed and administered - typically taxable if assets are income producing but major loopholes exist. Real estate tax in Texas (have a home in Austin) is brutal and calculated by the U of M tackle statistician.

I always get curious about the cost of living index when I hear about coaching changes and opportunity. A brief search and analysis shows El Paso to be 34.6% cheaper on overall cost of living than Bozeman. The median home cost in El Paso is 69% cheaper than Bozeman. However, the average temp in El Paso during June - September is 159 degrees so it is highly suggested to build a pool, thus adding to the taxable value of the home.

Last 2 fun facts: (1) Austin living expenses are 3.2% higher than Bozeman, but that does not include eating brisket and drinking Jellyfish 4 times per week while listening to live music; and (2) Compared to Austin, Bozeman housing is 18% higher. That's f*****!

[JoeCatsJoe]

Ugh, this off season has just sucked in so many ways

Well, at least there’s a huge, massive, game changing gift that’s definitely absolutely for sure coming that’ll offset the brutal wound that was losing the chipper, and the salt in that wound that was losing nearly all our proven talent and both our coordinators!!

You have an odd definition of "nearly all". Would you like the full list of major contributors to the 2024 team who will be back next year? Happy to type one out for you.

I apologize, there was a lot of bitter sarcasm in my statement. We have a lot of good talent coming back, and we should perpetually be a top 4 team. Just some sour grapes.

Your other point about a game changing gift also cracks me up. So many people on here upset because someone mentioned it and expected an announcement immediately. There was never an indication it was NIL, facility, scholarships. Not sure why everyone is so pessimistic about it now. Why would the OP mention if there wasn't some chance of a gift coming.

Perhaps I shouldn’t have used bitter sarcasm humor over text, where it doesn’t come across as good as in person. I have no insight whatsoever on that gift, it could be anything. However, it’s been rumored for long enough without anything concrete to make me nervous that it’s not what it’s been hyped up to be. However, I’d absolutely love for it to be a huge gift.

[AFCAT]

Other thing to remember is Texas is a low personal property tax and athletes and coaches like to take jobs there because of tax breaks.Bobby will probably making pretty good coin.

I assume you are referring to personal income tax in Texas, for which there is none if you handle it correctly. Personal property tax in Texas is locally assessed and administered - typically taxable if assets are income producing but major loopholes exist. Real estate tax in Texas (have a home in Austin) is brutal and calculated by the U of M tackle statistician.

I always get curious about the cost of living index when I hear about coaching changes and opportunity. A brief search and analysis shows El Paso to be 34.6% cheaper on overall cost of living than Bozeman. The median home cost in El Paso is 69% cheaper than Bozeman. However, the average temp in El Paso during June - September is 159 degrees so it is highly suggested to build a pool, thus adding to the taxable value of the home.

Last 2 fun facts: (1) Austin living expenses are 3.2% higher than Bozeman, but that does not include eating brisket and drinking Jellyfish 4 times per week while listening to live music; and (2) Compared to Austin, Bozeman housing is 18% higher. That's f*****!

I don’t know about 159 degrees but I can confirm it gets very hot there in the summer. The dust storms that roll through are also something to behold, better seal up any gaps in your doors and windows. I never had a car with air conditioning until I moved to El Paso and quickly figured out I needed to spend the cash to get it installed in my car. Cost of living in El Paso is definitely lower than Bozeman, even when I lived there.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

[catsrback76]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

I’m not sure I’ve heard who the replacements are, but, it’s safe to say that IMO this is the single most detrimental thing that will affect our next 2 years. Getting this hire wrong will be a huge setback, beyond what it already is with Daly leaving.

[nanacat]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

Question of the day. Next portal period could be interesting.

[MSU01]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

Question of the day. Next portal period could be interesting.

Every portal period is going to be interesting from here on out! If Texan is right and Howe is the new DC I think the players will be very happy with that. He's extremely well liked from everything I've heard about him.

[kwcat]

I imagine Vigen knew this was coming? Usually doesn't happen overnight and if he has the same transparency perspective with coaches as he seeks to have with players, chances are he's already reached out to someone from outside the program, or has had talks with in-house coaches about moving up...right?

I'd imagine it was somewhat of a surprise as UTEP's former DC left only a week ago to join the Dallas Cowboys staff. That said I think any competent coach always keeps a list of potential assistant hires should the need arise. No need to worry, Vigen has pretty consistently made high quality hires for his staff with one notable and high profile exception. And that's a mistake I highly doubt he'll make again.

Daly‘s name has been floated in a few different job possibilities starting last fall. I would think Coach would have a short list ready. I don’t think Howe is ready for that spot yet. Just my two cents

[Cataholic]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

Question of the day. Next portal period could be interesting.

Every portal period is going to be interesting from here on out! If Texan is right and Howe is the new DC I think the players will be very happy with that. He's extremely well liked from everything I've heard about him.

My biggest concern with Daly leaving was how much he was liked and respected by the players. I hope you are right on Howe’s relationship with the kids. It is critical with todays players.

[PHAT CAT]

Well f-ck me. This crap is going to catch up to us. No continuity over a couple years will screw us. Damn!

[kwcat]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

I’m not sure I’ve heard who the replacements are, but, it’s safe to say that IMO this is the single most detrimental thing that will affect our next 2 years. Getting this hire wrong will be a huge setback, beyond what it already is with Daly leaving.

[kwcat]

Howe is the new dc........ownes goes the lbs...shep goes to safeties.... they are in the portal for a cb coach.... lots of turnover. Talent is there will the turnover hurt?????

Question of the day. Next portal period could be interesting.

Every portal period is going to be interesting from here on out! If Texan is right and Howe is the new DC I think the players will be very happy with that. He's extremely well liked from everything I've heard about him.

I don’t think Howe is the right guy for the job but I’ve been wrong before