Tommy's Injury

[Bobcat4Ever]

That is crazy! If you rewatch the play, no contact or anything, he just stepped to throw a pass, and started limping… must have popped something.

Watch it again. The injury happened when he got tackled on a play before that.

And I believe it rolled the worse way (as in out, instead of in??)--looked extremely painful.
I could be wrong but I also feel like the damn slippery field had a hand in it.

The slippery field and 240 additional lbs. of bison meat landing on him.

?? - wasn't it a non contact injury... I don't think he got hit.

It was on a QB running play. Personally I don’t think it had anything to do with the field. He got hit and kind of rolled up on from the momentum of that tackler. Could have happened on any field on any play really, just some bad luck.

It had more to do with his cleats getting snagged in the Bermuda grass than the hit. The hit was relatively mild. The defenders weight came down on Mellott's lower leg after his cleats catch in the grass. All injuries have a dose of bad luck and no one can say for sure what happened in this instance, but this one "probably" doesn't happen if his cleats don't snag. It's water under the bridge at this point. Sure, it "could" have happened on any field, however, I think it's "more likely" that this injury would not have happened had he not snagged his cleats. Colter had an interview with an ortho doctor this past week on this very detail and he explains it well.

Stanford University did a peer-reviewed study on playing surfaces and on of their findings was that ACL injuries occurred up to 2.13 times more on Bermuda grass than on rye grass likely due to the increased traction of football cleats on Bermuda grass caused by the thicker thatch layer.

Toyota Stadium in Frisco is under contract to host the game through 2024.

After having watched this over on game day, I totally agree about the cleats getting snagged in the turf. But to finish the damage after Brooks’ frame, #90 landed on top of him with full weight.

[catatac]

Thanks for posting that, I guess I was confused as someone posted a different video clip where he stepped back and threw a pass and instantly started limping. Not sure if that was before or after.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

Thanks for posting that, I guess I was confused as someone posted a different video clip where he stepped back and threw a pass and instantly started limping. Not sure if that was before or after.

The pass was after and it was also after he couldn’t even walk, kid is a gamer. It happened right in front of us. I don’t know how the game would have ended up but I do know we were moving the ball really well prior to the injury. If we score points there it sets the tone of the game. After he came out and we ran the fake, the air was out of the team. The defense knew at that time that without Tommy there was no way we win the game. I have said it before how much of a team player Rovig is, but it wasn’t happening after that play. No excuse for the defense to play like they did in the first half, but you can’t really blame them or Rovig. Rovig is a great dude and all about winning, but we needed a higher gun after that injury.

I don’t blame the field as he probably would have been hurt on that play either way, not to mention NDSU had to deal with the same field conditions. If you talk to most players they would rather play on grass over synthetic turf any day, it just was a freak deal that happened at the wrong time. Teams like this usually go in spurts, so I hope the team knows they can get back and try to redeem themselves next year. Momentum with 18-22 year olds is a huge deal and you can’t understate that.

[WalkOn79]

Thanks for posting that, I guess I was confused as someone posted a different video clip where he stepped back and threw a pass and instantly started limping. Not sure if that was before or after.

The pass was after and it was also after he couldn’t even walk, kid is a gamer. It happened right in front of us. I don’t know how the game would have ended up but I do know we were moving the ball really well prior to the injury. If we score points there it sets the tone of the game. After he came out and we ran the fake, the air was out of the team. The defense knew at that time that without Tommy there was no way we win the game. I have said it before how much of a team player Rovig is, but it wasn’t happening after that play. No excuse for the defense to play like they did in the first half, but you can’t really blame them or Rovig. Rovig is a great dude and all about winning, but we needed a higher gun after that injury.

I don’t blame the field as he probably would have been hurt on that play either way, not to mention NDSU had to deal with the same field conditions. If you talk to most players they would rather play on grass over synthetic turf any day, it just was a freak deal that happened at the wrong time. Teams like this usually go in spurts, so I hope the team knows they can get back and try to redeem themselves next year. Momentum with 18-22 year olds is a huge deal and you can’t understate that.

With todays synthetic fields I don’t think it’s true any more that most players prefer natural grass.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

Thanks for posting that, I guess I was confused as someone posted a different video clip where he stepped back and threw a pass and instantly started limping. Not sure if that was before or after.

The pass was after and it was also after he couldn’t even walk, kid is a gamer. It happened right in front of us. I don’t know how the game would have ended up but I do know we were moving the ball really well prior to the injury. If we score points there it sets the tone of the game. After he came out and we ran the fake, the air was out of the team. The defense knew at that time that without Tommy there was no way we win the game. I have said it before how much of a team player Rovig is, but it wasn’t happening after that play. No excuse for the defense to play like they did in the first half, but you can’t really blame them or Rovig. Rovig is a great dude and all about winning, but we needed a higher gun after that injury.

I don’t blame the field as he probably would have been hurt on that play either way, not to mention NDSU had to deal with the same field conditions. If you talk to most players they would rather play on grass over synthetic turf any day, it just was a freak deal that happened at the wrong time. Teams like this usually go in spurts, so I hope the team knows they can get back and try to redeem themselves next year. Momentum with 18-22 year olds is a huge deal and you can’t understate that.

With todays synthetic fields I don’t think it’s true any more that most players prefer natural grass.

I used to think that until I talked to some players. In the nfl almost all practice fields are grass and same with NCAA schools, including the big dogs like Alabama, so there has to be some merit to it. Why would Missoula and MSU still have grass practice fields if it wasnt preferred? Synthetic is expensive at the start but after a few years it’s way cheaper because you don’t have to maintain it like grass. I understand colder areas need synthetic because you can’t keep plowing grass, but like I said in the nfl they put tarps on them and still use them. Baseball fields are still grass for a reason, because the players love it compared to synthetic. My cousin coaches 6A baseball in Texas and he said synthetic bounces way truer than grass, but yet all the player prefer grass over synthetic.

I don’t know the answer or why it’s like that, but if Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago, packers, etc. are still playing on grass in the nfl there has to be some reason for that.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports ... ?_amp=true

This is a 2020 NFLPA article, where the union is asking all teams to switch to natural grass vs synthetic turf due to the forgiveness of grass vs. turf.

[Bobcat4Ever]

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports ... ?_amp=true

This is a 2020 NFLPA article, where the union is asking all teams to switch to natural grass vs synthetic turf due to the forgiveness of grass vs. turf.

Good find. I’ll bet, however, that they won’t be going with a shallow-rooted layer of wet golf course (Bermuda) grass over the hard-packed sand drainage system.

[Long Time Cat]

Texas A&M which is second to almost no one in resources has a real grass field. Same with the Packers, real grass and heated. I think MSU is better off with turf cause they don't have those resources. Some of the past playoff games were played on surfaces that were brutal.

[Sohedges]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

[luckyirishguy25]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

******, he's already running laps in the hospital.

[MTBluesCAT]

Good Luck Tommy. Get well soon!

[imacat]

I hope the surgery went well … wishing you a complete recovery Tommy. Don’t rush the process.

[catatac]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

Thank you for posting this information. This is excellent news, as I was worried about his recovery with that specific injury. I had been told it was a possibly that it would never heal 100% but I'm guessing with that relatively short recovery time, it should probably get back to 100%? Someone else had posted that it would have been better if he had broken his ankle... which it now sounds like that was a false statement.

[kennethnoisewater]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

Thank you for posting this information. This is excellent news, as I was worried about his recovery with that specific injury. I had been told it was a possibly that it would never heal 100% but I'm guessing with that relatively short recovery time, it should probably get back to 100%? Someone else had posted that it would have been better if he had broken his ankle... which it now sounds like that was a false statement.

I think that's just the conventional wisdom about ankle injuries in general. Hoping it is an easy enough fix that gets him to 100%. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't (like a torn ACL can be), but I don't know much about the injury. Seems to me the fact that they went ahead and got surgery this quickly means doctors think this is pretty straight forward.

[TomCat88]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

Thank you for posting this information. This is excellent news, as I was worried about his recovery with that specific injury. I had been told it was a possibly that it would never heal 100% but I'm guessing with that relatively short recovery time, it should probably get back to 100%? Someone else had posted that it would have been better if he had broken his ankle... which it now sounds like that was a false statement.

I think that's just the conventional wisdom about ankle injuries in general. Hoping it is an easy enough fix that gets him to 100%. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't (like a torn ACL can be), but I don't know much about the injury. Seems to me the fact that they went ahead and got surgery this quickly means doctors think this is pretty straight forward.

Does anyone know for sure what ligament he tore or what kind of surgery he had?

[AFCAT]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

Thank you for posting this information. This is excellent news, as I was worried about his recovery with that specific injury. I had been told it was a possibly that it would never heal 100% but I'm guessing with that relatively short recovery time, it should probably get back to 100%? Someone else had posted that it would have been better if he had broken his ankle... which it now sounds like that was a false statement.

I think that's just the conventional wisdom about ankle injuries in general. Hoping it is an easy enough fix that gets him to 100%. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't (like a torn ACL can be), but I don't know much about the injury. Seems to me the fact that they went ahead and got surgery this quickly means doctors think this is pretty straight forward.

Does anyone know for sure what ligament he tore or what kind of surgery he had?

It’s officially the off season and we have run out of things to discuss.

[Clinton T]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

******, he's already running laps in the hospital.

Tommy does his homework, lifts, and his PT before 3:00 am. If he doesn't, he can pack his bags and leave.

[Clinton T]

Tommy had surgery yesterday in Bozeman. The estimated recovery time for that kind of injury is 6-8 weeks- Tommy will be back in 3. Lol

Thank you for posting this information. This is excellent news, as I was worried about his recovery with that specific injury. I had been told it was a possibly that it would never heal 100% but I'm guessing with that relatively short recovery time, it should probably get back to 100%? Someone else had posted that it would have been better if he had broken his ankle... which it now sounds like that was a false statement.

I think that's just the conventional wisdom about ankle injuries in general. Hoping it is an easy enough fix that gets him to 100%. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't (like a torn ACL can be), but I don't know much about the injury. Seems to me the fact that they went ahead and got surgery this quickly means doctors think this is pretty straight forward.

Does anyone know for sure what ligament he tore or what kind of surgery he had?

I'm certainly not a doctor, but I would assume he had "Tommy John" surgery on a ligament ending in "CL".

[Bobcat4Ever]

The scary part that I just read about his surgery was the word “Bozeman”.

[thefrank1]

Bozeman has some great young orthopedic surgeons. My experience has been great.