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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by lutecat » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:07 am

bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:56 pm
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:14 pm
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:48 pm
technoCat wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:05 am
How is Charles Brown looking? Kid had some electric tape. Should have had lots of time in the weight room at this point after graduating early.
He has been doing some drills, but absolutely nothing during contact in any practices. Was not dressed on Saturday.
One of bobcat99’s faves. He’ll be weighing in, in 5...4...3...2...
Sorry! Thought I had notifications set up for his name. I’ve been let down.

Seriously though, haven’t seen any practices so I have no clue. I just like the kid. Seems good to me.
If he's not practicing because he's injured, it probably stems from when he was trying to kick field goals after practice and one Lucy that's breaking records on the T&F team pulled the ball as a prank on April 1 and he, well, you know the rest. Oh good grief!



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by Hawks86 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:55 am

TomCat88 wrote:
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Who's making that hit at :06?
Bohannon, Bailey, or Davis. Can't get a good look at the second number.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by ND0479 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:04 am

lutecat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:07 am
bobcat99 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:56 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:14 pm
HelenaCat wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:48 pm
technoCat wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:05 am
How is Charles Brown looking? Kid had some electric tape. Should have had lots of time in the weight room at this point after graduating early.
He has been doing some drills, but absolutely nothing during contact in any practices. Was not dressed on Saturday.
One of bobcat99’s faves. He’ll be weighing in, in 5...4...3...2...
Sorry! Thought I had notifications set up for his name. I’ve been let down.

Seriously though, haven’t seen any practices so I have no clue. I just like the kid. Seems good to me.
If he's not practicing because he's injured, it probably stems from when he was trying to kick field goals after practice and one Lucy that's breaking records on the T&F team pulled the ball as a prank on April 1 and he, well, you know the rest. Oh good grief!
Not bad! =D^



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by CelticCat » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:12 am

I just hope that whoever Vigen goes with, we stick with that decision and let it play out, let him develop over the season, not yank him if he has a bad game or even two.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by CodyCat » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:54 pm

CelticCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:12 am
I just hope that whoever Vigen goes with, we stick with that decision and let it play out, let him develop over the season, not yank him if he has a bad game or even two.
Why? Seemed to workout pretty well last time.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by Montanabob » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:26 pm

CodyCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:54 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:12 am
I just hope that whoever Vigen goes with, we stick with that decision and let it play out, let him develop over the season, not yank him if he has a bad game or even two.
Why? Seemed to workout pretty well last time.
I want him to pick the best option also, but I love it when you play multiple offensive packages with different players. Make the defense scheme work extra for all the different offensive looks. So start one QB, let him play a few series, then switch offensive set.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by KittieKop » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:33 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:26 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:54 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:12 am
I just hope that whoever Vigen goes with, we stick with that decision and let it play out, let him develop over the season, not yank him if he has a bad game or even two.
Why? Seemed to workout pretty well last time.
I want him to pick the best option also, but I love it when you play multiple offensive packages with different players. Make the defense scheme work extra for all the different offensive looks. So start one QB, let him play a few series, then switch offensive set.
I hope Vigen has a better feel for the QB position that Choate did. I agree, I hope he picks the right one the first time to start, and sees success from that. Because if you put McKay in there, and things go off the rails, are you seriously going to ask Rovig to go back in? For the third year in the row, don't get chosen as the opening day starter, only to be pulled off the bench and told, "Oops, made a mistake. Guess it is you." Not saying Rovig is the answer, but if that were the case, would take a huge team commitment to stick around and continue to always be the coach's second choice.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by bobcat99 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:05 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:26 pm
CodyCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:54 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:12 am
I just hope that whoever Vigen goes with, we stick with that decision and let it play out, let him develop over the season, not yank him if he has a bad game or even two.
Why? Seemed to workout pretty well last time.
I want him to pick the best option also, but I love it when you play multiple offensive packages with different players. Make the defense scheme work extra for all the different offensive looks. So start one QB, let him play a few series, then switch offensive set.
That’s why we see so many successful teams do just that, right?



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by CelticCat » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:27 am

Maybe I missed it, are there are reports from the scrimmage outside of the one MSU put out? Dying to hear about it.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by 95bcfb » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:49 am

I'm not worried about the quarterback position. He has shown that he knows how to develop quarterbacks so whoever he chooses is going to be a big improvement from what we've seen over the last few years. To me the big question mark is how our defense does underneath his leadership. On offense we are going to see big improvement this year. The test of whether or not he will be able to take us to the next level will be how well he does on the defensive side.



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by BigBruceBaker » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:54 am

CelticCat wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:12 am
I just hope that whoever Vigen goes with, we stick with that decision and let it play out, let him develop over the season, not yank him if he has a bad game or even two.
Couldn't agree more. Whoever he and the OC decide is the best fit long term and for the season I hope they make the decision in fall camp and roll with it.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by imacat » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:04 am

McKay is the early front runner in the QB room.

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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by bobcatfan123 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:17 pm

imacat wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:04 am
McKay is the early front runner in the QB room.

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky ... d06a9.html
If Rovig is our starter I feel good about our chances of having another memorable season. However, if McKay is a gamer we could really be in business. Can’t wait to see!



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by bpcats20 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:21 am

Biggest concern for me is switch to 4-3...and ability to recruit the DL position to man it effectively. There is a reason why we went 3-4 to remain multiple and ability to find more players to recruit to it.

Really worried about 1st time DC. Not that he won’t develop into a good DC but learning process could be painful... ie last couple of years under Ash come to mind.



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by iaafan » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:51 am

I like that the QBs are wearing gold, instead of red, jerseys. Or did they do that last year, too?

The offense should be very good, but the defense has me wondering a little bit. Banks is the wild card.



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by bobcat99 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:07 pm

bpcats20 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:21 am
Biggest concern for me is switch to 4-3...and ability to recruit the DL position to man it effectively. There is a reason why we went 3-4 to remain multiple and ability to find more players to recruit to it.

Really worried about 1st time DC. Not that he won’t develop into a good DC but learning process could be painful... ie last couple of years under Ash come to mind.
The 3-4 is harder to recruit for, imo.

You have to find a big NT. Difficult for top programs, more difficult at the FCS level. You have to find large base ends, 3T, 5T, 4i, and the like. Difficult. Then you have to find edges. Pass rushers who are also capable of dropping into coverage when needed. Perhaps a little easier than finding the lineman, but not easy.

Lineman are always going to be difficult to find at this level, but I think there’s a lot more 6’1-6’3 270-290 lb players that are capable of playing than there are 310+ guys. Most of them that can actually move, are too good to play here.

The last couple of Ash years at MSU had an experienced DC calling plays. Not sure the relevance?



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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by coloradocat » Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:12 pm

I may have missed this over the past couple months but has Vigen or Banks explained why they changed to 4-3?


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by tetoncat » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:56 pm

Did they change? Or, is that the systems they have both come from. Curious on thoughts on if it's easier for a coach too change to match roster or slowly change roster to fit scheme.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by coloradocat » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:08 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:56 pm
Did they change? Or, is that the systems they have both come from. Curious on thoughts on if it's easier for a coach too change to match roster or slowly change roster to fit scheme.
Assuming you're responding to my previous post, I'm asking if they explained why they changed the team's base defense. I assume it's what Banks came from. I just don't remember if anyone has outright asked them why they changed, with your last sentence as a follow up.


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Re: 2021 spring ball

Post by bobcat99 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:47 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:08 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:56 pm
Did they change? Or, is that the systems they have both come from. Curious on thoughts on if it's easier for a coach too change to match roster or slowly change roster to fit scheme.
Assuming you're responding to my previous post, I'm asking if they explained why they changed the team's base defense. I assume it's what Banks came from. I just don't remember if anyone has outright asked them why they changed, with your last sentence as a follow up.
Because you don’t hire a coach to run a scheme they don’t want to run/aren’t as familiar with.



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