Big Sky Confrence Title Game

Htowngriz · Post by **Htowngriz** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:10 pm

bobcatgrad2005 wrote:D@mn you Mr. Suck for making me defend Cledus. But he is correct in who would be the BSC champion. Without the third team in the scenario, the Cat/ Griz game IS THE GAME FOR THE OUTRIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.

Does that mean that in the event of a Bobcat win a first round playoff game will likley be in a half full Wash-Griz stadium? Yes. Mooolah speaks, and Wa-Griz pulls it in.

If the cats ever had a home first-round playoff game, they would realize that many people, especially students, are visiting family this weekend, thus the lower attendence

CatsRback · Post by **CatsRback** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:11 pm

k..back on topic - keys to winning on Nov 18th -
fast start - if the cats can get to a two score advantage - the game should be pretty much over - Kramer loves to pound the ball right at the opponents line and dominate the clock. (plus takes the crowd out of the game..)
special teams - we can't afford the comical mistakes, someone please figure out how to nail the 'roll punt'
Defensively - has anyone really put pressure on swogger? He flat out CAN'T run! - let's blitz the h#ll out of them....

Htowngriz · Post by **Htowngriz** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:10 pm

CatsRback wrote:k..back on topic - keys to winning on Nov 18th -
fast start - if the cats can get to a two score advantage - the game should be pretty much over - Kramer loves to pound the ball right at the opponents line and dominate the clock. (plus takes the crowd out of the game..)
special teams - we can't afford the comical mistakes, someone please figure out how to nail the 'roll punt'
Defensively - has anyone really put pressure on swogger? He flat out CAN'T run! - let's blitz the h#ll out of them....

Can't argue with Swogger's inability to run, but if he struggles enough, Hauck won't be afraid to put Burquist in, who is much more mobile.

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:12 am

Htowngriz wrote:I'm not trying to smack here, but I don't think our D had much trouble against ISU's top rated offense; I don't think we'll have trouble against the cats. That being said, our offense has been anemic the last few games- plenty of talent, but Swogger just hasn't been consistent, and our play-calling has been incredibly uninspired. With MSU's solid D, I see the brawl being very similar to today's game.

Well you also played ISU after the Cat did ... see Bobcat affect. The Cats usually beat down their opponent so bad they usually lose the week after too (

anyone like my Egriz opinions?

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CPACAT · Post by **CPACAT** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:44 am

The_Bobcats_Suck wrote:
Cledus wrote:*sigh*

Christ, it's like I'm talking to a child. I probably am.

Last year, there were three teams with the same conference record. It was a round-robin of who beat each other. There's no argument about the shared championship when it involves more than two teams.

There is no shared championship if there's two teams with the same record and one of them beat the other heads up. If the Cats win on 11-18 the only team in the conference to have beaten them will be EWU. EWU, based on their record, is not in contention despite having beat the Cats. Thus, there can be no shared championship.

Why do I get the feeling you're one of these people who riles up everyone on eGriz and is the fuel for all these bar fights I read about?
*Sigh, Double Sigh!

Cledus,

'splain this.....

Year 2004 Griz and EWU have same Big Sky record at 6-1. Griz beat EWU that year, there only BSC loss.

Do you recall what the end result was that year?

Griz/EWU SHARED BIG SKY CHAMPS!

What say you?

It is all fine and dandy to call yourself Co-Champs if it makes you feel good but everyone know the teams that gets the automatic birth in the playoffs it the real Big Sky Champ and the rest don't mean squat.

I don't care how the BSC works their tiebreakers or lack thereof. If you call yourself Big Sky Champions without winning the automatic bid you are sadly mistaken. Co-Champs is for tee ball when no one wants to hurt any ones feelings.

Therefore I propose a new man law, NO Co-Champs- If you beat someone head to head and you get the automatic birth you are Champ. End of Discussion.

083190 · Post by **083190** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:34 am

Here is the answer on tiebreakers from the conference office:

Big Sky responds:

"When two or more Conference members are tied in the final Conference standings, the team championship, for purposes of determing the automatic bid, shall be determined on the following basis:br>
HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPETITION
1- Consider the head-to-head record during the Conference season's play.

That said, the winner on Nov. 18th is the Conference Champion and the loser is 2nd.

End of story.

CatsRback · Post by **CatsRback** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:41 am

I can't wait for November 18th! Two weeks of this debate is going to get old fast - like in politics the only "poll" that matters is the one taken the afternoon of Nov 18th in the smoggy confines on wagriz stadium!

The_Bobcats_Suck · Post by **The_Bobcats_Suck** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:42 am

083190 wrote:Here is the answer on tiebreakers from the conference office:

Big Sky responds:

"When two or more Conference members are tied in the final Conference standings, the team championship, for purposes of determing the automatic bid, shall be determined on the following basis:br>
HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPETITION
1- Consider the head-to-head record during the Conference season's play.

That said, the winner on Nov. 18th is the Conference Champion and the loser is 2nd.

End of story.

That's the response for the AUTO-BID, not the Conference Championship. See my post above about 2004.

Story still going.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:00 pm

Also, ISU receiver and return man was hurt in the Cat game and did not play against the GRIZ. Very quick and made big plays.

BobcatOninetails · Post by **BobcatOninetails** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:25 pm

Htowngriz wrote:
bobcatgrad2005 wrote:D@mn you Mr. Suck for making me defend Cledus. But he is correct in who would be the BSC champion. Without the third team in the scenario, the Cat/ Griz game IS THE GAME FOR THE OUTRIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.

Does that mean that in the event of a Bobcat win a first round playoff game will likley be in a half full Wash-Griz stadium? Yes. Mooolah speaks, and Wa-Griz pulls it in.
If the cats ever had a home first-round playoff game, they would realize that many people, especially students, are visiting family this weekend, thus the lower attendence

Excuse me. Correct me if I am wrong, but the first round game in 2004 was a sellout was it not?

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:29 pm

I think that first weekend of the playoffs are a hard one to fill a stadium due to the timing.
Because I don't remember, what did the Griz pull in vs Cal Poly last year in that first round game? For some reason I was thinking either 16K or 18K. Still pretty darn good numbers.

I'd love to alter my thanksgiving weekend plans this year!

DaCats Forever · Post by **DaCats Forever** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:32 pm

barechestcat wrote:I think that first weekend of the playoffs are a hard one to fill a stadium due to the timing.
Because I don't remember, what did the Griz pull in vs Cal Poly last year in that first round game? For some reason I was thinking either 16K or 18K. Still pretty darn good numbers.

I'd love to alter my thanksgiving weekend plans this year!

I already have a 50/50 plan, where I have no idea what I'll be doing but I'm hoping it will be in Bozeman watching the Cats win their first round game. I can't wait to go to Missoula and hopefully like I've been saying all year we beat the Griz and get a home playoff game.
P.S. Wish we beat EWU.

grizzh8r · Post by **grizzh8r** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:05 pm

DaCats Forever wrote:
barechestcat wrote:I think that first weekend of the playoffs are a hard one to fill a stadium due to the timing.
Because I don't remember, what did the Griz pull in vs Cal Poly last year in that first round game? For some reason I was thinking either 16K or 18K. Still pretty darn good numbers.

I'd love to alter my thanksgiving weekend plans this year!
I already have a 50/50 plan, where I have no idea what I'll be doing but I'm hoping it will be in Bozeman watching the Cats win their first round game. I can't wait to go to Missoula and hopefully like I've been saying all year we beat the Griz and get a home playoff game.
P.S. Wish we beat EWU.

Yeah, that would have been a nice insurance win, wouldn't it? Even a (shudders) Chadron St. win would have given us a legitimate shot if we happened to falter in Missoula. Coulda woulda shoulda, eh?

Oh well, I'll be plenty happy if we beat the Griz on the 18th.

GO CATS!