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if any (which i doubt) who and to where?

I'd have to say with all the talent the cats sent to the NFL the coaching in Bozo must suck.

jagur1 wrote:I'd have to say with all the talent the cats sent to the NFL the coaching in Bozo must suck.

nice dodge jag...

Nope, the Griz didn't have anyone sign or get drafted. This doesn't really come as a suprise to most Griz fans, though. You would be hard pressed to find many Griz fans who thought this group of seniors had many NFL caliber players (unlike the last couple of years, in which a couple of players signed deals). Kevin Edwards did sign to play in the CFL, though.

Cowboy Joe Didn't leave Bobby a lot to work with.

jagur1 wrote:Cowboy Joe Didn't leave Bobby a lot to work with.

How so?

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:

jagur1 wrote:Cowboy Joe Didn't leave Bobby a lot to work with.

How so?

The seniors on this team were all Joe Glenn recruits. The last recruiting class Joe Glenn had was not a very good class, by any standards.

Update:
This morning's Missoulian has an article about Brad Rhoades working out a two year deal with the Tennessee Titans.
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2006 ... s/ws68.txt

grizband wrote:

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:

jagur1 wrote:Cowboy Joe Didn't leave Bobby a lot to work with.

How so?

The seniors on this team were all Joe Glenn recruits. The last recruiting class Joe Glenn had was not a very good class, by any standards.

Real nice - I'm sure the seniors would love to hear that. I'm sure Joe Glenn would love to hear that....he sure was a terrible coach wasn't he

Anyway....congratulations to Brad Rhoades with the Titans. I will be rooting for him to make the team, and to have a long a successful NFL career.

grizband wrote:Update:
This morning's Missoulian has an article about Brad Rhoades working out a two year deal with the Tennessee Titans.
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2006 ... s/ws68.txt

And maybe Chris Snyder!

http://www.egriz.com/GrizBoard/viewtopic.php?t=16105

This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

Not once did I say I didn't appreciate the effort, or the play of the Seniors. Nor did I say Cowboy Joe was a bad coach. I just stated the class didn't have the NFL talent that other classes at the U of M have had.

Now I did say that Mr. Clean must suck as a coach to have one of the best all time QBs in the history of the BSC, a great running back, a great O line, the best D in the BSC last year, the most accurate Kicker in a long time, a NFL Wideout and not win 10 games. You give Cowboy Joe that much talent and see how far he'd go. All the games sold out, you had a good homefield advantage and went 6-0 at home. Why didn't this team win 10 games? That is a question you should be asking instead of being so thrilled to post 16-6. That Cat team under performed last year. (Nice)

jagur1 wrote:This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

Not once did I say I didn't appreciate the effort, or the play of the Seniors. Nor did I say Cowboy Joe was a bad coach. I just stated the class didn't have the NFL talent that other classes at the U of M have had.

Now I did say that Mr. Clean must suck as a coach to have one of the best all time QBs in the history of the BSC, a great running back, a great O line, the best D in the BSC last year, the most accurate Kicker in a long time, a NFL Wideout and not win 10 games. You give Cowboy Joe that much talent and see how far he'd go. All the games sold out, you had a good homefield advantage and went 6-0 at home. Why didn't this team win 10 games? That is a question you should be asking instead of being so thrilled to post 16-6. That Cat team under performed last year. (Nice)

I think most of my comments were directed at Grizband's post - yours just happend to start that small thread. If you feel I criticized your post (which I can see how that could be), I apologize and assure you that I wasnt' talking about your post. Did we underperfom? Yes - I think most Cat fans will agree to that. Did an underperforming Bobcat team beat the Griz 16-6? Yes.

I felt GB's statement that it wasn't a good class "by any standards" was a little too harsh. I am one Cat fan who has a lot of respect for Joe Glenn. I think he is a good coach, and I personally like him. Was his last recruiting class the best class ever? Probably not, but to say that it wasn't good "by any standards" is incorrect.

Jag - look what you've done to me. I'm defending Joe Glenn and last years Griz FB team.........I feel dirty.

jagur1 wrote:This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

PURE BS.

Listen punk, Coach Durham left because he no longer felt the enthusiasm for Bobcat Basketball anymore. Fans could see this complacency/frustration growing ever since the 2001 season when we failed to win the Conf. tourney. Did the criticism of the fans help him make the descision? Perhaps. But, he knew things weren't right anymore. He left because he loves this school, and felt the need for a change in Bobcat Basketball. That is why he left. To say we chased off the Durham family is rediculous. In fact, his son is still on the team (rightfully so, he has earned it)!

By the way, a large portion of the Bobcat faithful did NOT want him to leave. I would say the fan base was pretty much split.

bearBAC wrote:

grizzh8r wrote:

jagur1 wrote:This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

PURE BS.

Listen punk,Blahh Blahhh Blahhh Blah,

By the way, a large portion of the Bobcat faithful did NOT want him to leave. I would say the fan base was pretty much split.

To paraphase, many kitten faithfull are totally content with under achieving, mediocrity!!

Yay brokeback, way to take what I said WAY out of context you stupid ****** troll.

You are lucky the mods on this site are so forgiving. If I were one, you would have been gone by your 10th post.

HelenaCat95 wrote:

jagur1 wrote:This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

Not once did I say I didn't appreciate the effort, or the play of the Seniors. Nor did I say Cowboy Joe was a bad coach. I just stated the class didn't have the NFL talent that other classes at the U of M have had.

Now I did say that Mr. Clean must suck as a coach to have one of the best all time QBs in the history of the BSC, a great running back, a great O line, the best D in the BSC last year, the most accurate Kicker in a long time, a NFL Wideout and not win 10 games. You give Cowboy Joe that much talent and see how far he'd go. All the games sold out, you had a good homefield advantage and went 6-0 at home. Why didn't this team win 10 games? That is a question you should be asking instead of being so thrilled to post 16-6. That Cat team under performed last year. (Nice)

I think most of my comments were directed at Grizband's post - yours just happend to start that small thread. If you feel I criticized your post (which I can see how that could be), I apologize and assure you that I wasnt' talking about your post. Did we underperfom? Yes - I think most Cat fans will agree to that. Did an underperforming Bobcat team beat the Griz 16-6? Yes.

I felt GB's statement that it wasn't a good class "by any standards" was a little too harsh. I am one Cat fan who has a lot of respect for Joe Glenn. I think he is a good coach, and I personally like him. Was his last recruiting class the best class ever? Probably not, but to say that it wasn't good "by any standards" is incorrect.

Jag - look what you've done to me. I'm defending Joe Glenn and last years Griz FB team.........I feel dirty.

Your're right, saying that this wasn't a good class "by and standards" was a bit harsh. We had some great seniors this year, but I didn't think that many of them were NFL caliber.I guess a better statement would be, this wasn't a good class by normal Griz standards. I also think that Joe Glenn was an great coach, but this particular recruiting class was a little lackluster compared to pervious classes. This observation is based on the fact that a number of the recruits never even saw the field, or contributed little on the field. After reading my original post, it did sound a little harsh. Oh, and Brad, good luck in the NFL. We are all rooting for you. That also goes for Kevin Edwards in the CFL, and any other Griz playing pro football.

grizband wrote:

HelenaCat95 wrote:

jagur1 wrote:This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

Not once did I say I didn't appreciate the effort, or the play of the Seniors. Nor did I say Cowboy Joe was a bad coach. I just stated the class didn't have the NFL talent that other classes at the U of M have had.

Now I did say that Mr. Clean must suck as a coach to have one of the best all time QBs in the history of the BSC, a great running back, a great O line, the best D in the BSC last year, the most accurate Kicker in a long time, a NFL Wideout and not win 10 games. You give Cowboy Joe that much talent and see how far he'd go. All the games sold out, you had a good homefield advantage and went 6-0 at home. Why didn't this team win 10 games? That is a question you should be asking instead of being so thrilled to post 16-6. That Cat team under performed last year. (Nice)

I think most of my comments were directed at Grizband's post - yours just happend to start that small thread. If you feel I criticized your post (which I can see how that could be), I apologize and assure you that I wasnt' talking about your post. Did we underperfom? Yes - I think most Cat fans will agree to that. Did an underperforming Bobcat team beat the Griz 16-6? Yes.

I felt GB's statement that it wasn't a good class "by any standards" was a little too harsh. I am one Cat fan who has a lot of respect for Joe Glenn. I think he is a good coach, and I personally like him. Was his last recruiting class the best class ever? Probably not, but to say that it wasn't good "by any standards" is incorrect.

Jag - look what you've done to me. I'm defending Joe Glenn and last years Griz FB team.........I feel dirty.

Your're right, saying that this wasn't a good class "by and standards" was a bit harsh. We had some great seniors this year, but I didn't think that many of them were NFL caliber.I guess a better statement would be, this wasn't a good class by normal Griz standards. I also think that Joe Glenn was an great coach, but this particular recruiting class was a little lackluster compared to pervious classes. This observation is based on the fact that a number of the recruits never even saw the field, or contributed little on the field. After reading my original post, it did sound a little harsh. Oh, and Brad, good luck in the NFL. We are all rooting for you. That also goes for Kevin Edwards in the CFL, and any other Griz playing pro football.

Classy post, my friend.
Now back to the smack board .........uh.......Griz suck.

HelenaCat95 wrote:

grizband wrote:

HelenaCat95 wrote:

jagur1 wrote:This comming from a crew that chased away a life long Bobcat family just because they didn't make the big dance and the Griz did. (nice)

Not once did I say I didn't appreciate the effort, or the play of the Seniors. Nor did I say Cowboy Joe was a bad coach. I just stated the class didn't have the NFL talent that other classes at the U of M have had.

Now I did say that Mr. Clean must suck as a coach to have one of the best all time QBs in the history of the BSC, a great running back, a great O line, the best D in the BSC last year, the most accurate Kicker in a long time, a NFL Wideout and not win 10 games. You give Cowboy Joe that much talent and see how far he'd go. All the games sold out, you had a good homefield advantage and went 6-0 at home. Why didn't this team win 10 games? That is a question you should be asking instead of being so thrilled to post 16-6. That Cat team under performed last year. (Nice)

I think most of my comments were directed at Grizband's post - yours just happend to start that small thread. If you feel I criticized your post (which I can see how that could be), I apologize and assure you that I wasnt' talking about your post. Did we underperfom? Yes - I think most Cat fans will agree to that. Did an underperforming Bobcat team beat the Griz 16-6? Yes.

I felt GB's statement that it wasn't a good class "by any standards" was a little too harsh. I am one Cat fan who has a lot of respect for Joe Glenn. I think he is a good coach, and I personally like him. Was his last recruiting class the best class ever? Probably not, but to say that it wasn't good "by any standards" is incorrect.

Jag - look what you've done to me. I'm defending Joe Glenn and last years Griz FB team.........I feel dirty.

Your're right, saying that this wasn't a good class "by and standards" was a bit harsh. We had some great seniors this year, but I didn't think that many of them were NFL caliber.I guess a better statement would be, this wasn't a good class by normal Griz standards. I also think that Joe Glenn was an great coach, but this particular recruiting class was a little lackluster compared to pervious classes. This observation is based on the fact that a number of the recruits never even saw the field, or contributed little on the field. After reading my original post, it did sound a little harsh. Oh, and Brad, good luck in the NFL. We are all rooting for you. That also goes for Kevin Edwards in the CFL, and any other Griz playing pro football.

Classy post, my friend.
Now back to the smack board .........uh.......Griz suck.

Thank you. But you are wrong...the, uh..... Bobcats suck.

HelenaCat95 wrote:

grizband wrote:

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:

jagur1 wrote:Cowboy Joe Didn't leave Bobby a lot to work with.

How so?

The seniors on this team were all Joe Glenn recruits. The last recruiting class Joe Glenn had was not a very good class, by any standards.

Real nice - I'm sure the seniors would love to hear that. I'm sure Joe Glenn would love to hear that....he sure was a terrible coach wasn't he

Anyway....congratulations to Brad Rhoades with the Titans. I will be rooting for him to make the team, and to have a long a successful NFL career.

Cat fans, as well as some Griz, don't hesitate to minimize BH's accomplishments by stating his teams to date have been comprised of JG's recruits, while at the same time ignore the fact that JG was only at UM for 3 years and, using the same rationale, that his teams were comprised of Dennehy's recruits. Don't get me wrong, I really like Glenn and think he is a great coach, but I think he himself said it best when discussing his tenure when he stated that he was given the keys to a cadillac at UM and didn't wreck it. It can be argued BH's success at UM was not because of JG's recruits, but was in spite of the fact that JG did not leave him as much talent as was left some of his predecessors.

While I still have some reservations on BH, I'm really excited about the condition of the Griz program. The 04 defense was comprised mostly of freshmen and sophmores, as was the 05 offense. Both had problems and it showed, but both showed a lot of potential. While there are still a few Glenn recruits remaining, this year's team will be BH's team and I think (or maybe it's hope) it will show that BH was not riding JG's coattails, but is in fact both a good coach and a good recruiter.