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2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by VimSince03 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 pm

Hello all. I've changed some things this year. Last year I went "big" and wrote 50 scouting reports (amateur at best) on my Top 50 recruits in the state of Montana. I gave detailed explanations of why I ranked them where I did. However, I've noticed trends each year since I started doing this analysis in 2016. The biggest trend? After you sift through the Top 20-25 kids, it kind of becomes a wash talent-wise if you view these kids as FCS prospects and ranking becomes irrelevant to a certain degree. Basically, an arbitrary number (like 50) shouldn't kick a kid, who is deserving of recognition with other prospects, off a list. I attempted to do a "best of the rest" list later last year but never actually put anything out. This was a disservice to many talented kids who may not have gotten recruited by MSU/UM but did get significant lower division recruiting interest.

After this fall was complete, I began putting together my final Top 50 but stopped halfway through the process. I've added/subtracted ways to put together and analyze these recruiting lists each year but one thing was always constant in my process: I put kids into "Tiers". Those tiers always included the same characteristics that ranged from tape, production, potential for further development, accolades, recruitment interest, athletic ability, versatility, etc. So instead of doing a Top 50, I've put 122 prospects into six tiers. Those six tiers are as follows:

Tier 1 - "Rare for the State of Montana"
Tier 2 - "Top Prospects in the State"
Tier 3 - "The Partials"
Tier 4 - "Safe Investments"
Tier 5 - "The Projects"
Tier 6 - "The Tryouts (aka The Dart Throws)"

Definitions for each tier can be found in the links below along with the players included in them. These players ARE NOT ranked under each tier but instead listed in alphabetical order. I have their best position to play in college listed to the right of their size (some will have more than one position). Will sporadically update each tier with the colleges that players have signed on with. One final thing to keep in mind, these tiers are based on my view of the player. For example, just because a player is listed in Tier 3 doesn't mean they actually got a partial scholarship at a FCS school. What I'm saying is that I believe they are deserving of a partial based off their ability.

Tier 1: https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 17&t=48727
Tier 2: https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 17&t=48726
Tier 3: https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 17&t=48725
Tier 4: https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 17&t=48724
Tier 5: https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 17&t=48723
Tier 6: https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... 17&t=48721

Final 2020 MT Rankings (Tiers 1-4)

1.) Tommy Mellot (Butte) - QB - 6'0", 190 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/7300733/To ... ott/videos
2.) Carson Rostad (Hamilton) - QB - 6'3", 215 lbs. (Montana) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8074460/Ca ... tad/videos
3.) Connor Ryan (Billings West) - WR/S - 6'2", 195 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/10146915/C ... yan/videos
4.) Jaxon Lee (Missoula Sentinel) - RB/WR/DB - 6'1", 190 lbs. (Montana) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/9844929/Jaxon-Lee/videos
5.) McCade O'Reilly (Bozeman) - FB/LB - 6'0", 210 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8375557/Mc ... lly/videos
6.) Rollie Worster (Missoula Hellgate) - ATH - 6'3", 205 lbs. (Utah State Basketball) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/7977794/Ro ... ter/videos
7.) DeMarcus Carr (Billings West) - RB - 5'11", 195 lbs. (Unsigned) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8500700/De ... arr/videos
8.) Drew Deck (Kalispell Glacier) - WR - 5'9", 155 lbs. (Montana) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8078980/Drew-Deck/videos
9.) Henry Nuce (Kalispell Glacier) - DE/DL - 6'4", 250 lbs. (Montana) - http://www.hudl.com/profile/8173288/Henry-Nuce/videos
10.) Journey Grimsrud (Huntley Project) - OL/DL - 6'3", 245 lbs. (Montana) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/10590061/J ... rud/videos

11.) Hayden Ferguson (Helena High) - ATH - 6'2", 200 lbs. (Unsigned) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/9769228/Ha ... son/videos
12.) Asher Croy (Bozeman) - RB/LB - 6'0", 210 lbs. (Montana) - http://www.hudl.com/profile/10589934/Asher-Croy/videos
13.) Trey Yates (Colstrip) - DL - 6'1", 250 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8125727/Trey-Yates/videos
14.) Parker Johnston (Helena Capital) - WR - 6'0", 175 lbs. (Montana Tech) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8780383/Pa ... ton/videos
15.) Conor Reitler (Billings Skyview) - OL - 6'4", 275 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/11401599/Conor-Reitler
16.) Konor McClafferty (Butte) - OL - 6'7", 230 lbs. (Montana Tech) - http://www.hudl.com/profile/7891736/Kon ... rty/videos
17.) Hank Rugg (Frenchtown) - DE/LB - 6'3", 190 lbs. (Carroll College) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8739402/Hank-Rugg/videos
18.) Aaron Richards (Butte Central) - OL/DL - 6'4", 280 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8186426/Aa ... rds/videos
19.) Mason Harding (Miles City) - OT/DE/DL - 6'4", 240 lbs. (Unsigned) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/7953461/Ma ... ing/videos
20.) Nick Eliason (Billings Senior) - TE - 6'4", 210 lbs. (Unsigned) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/7904000/Ni ... son/videos

21.) Max Anderson (Kalispell Flathead) - OL - 6'3", 270 lbs. (Montana Tech) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/9466526/Ma ... son/videos
22.) Jess Bellows (Miles City) - WR/DB - 5'10", 160 lbs. (South Dakota State Baseball) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/7942269/Je ... ows/videos
23.) Jake D'Agistino (Bozeman) - QB/LB/S - 6'2", 195 lbs. (Montana State) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/3836939/Ja ... ino/videos
24.) Tanner Parsons (Shelby) - LB - 6'1", 205 lbs. (Montana Tech) - http://www.hudl.com/profile/11393951/Ta ... ons/videos
25.) Guido Ossello (Butte Central) - WR - 6'3", 195 lbs. (Montana) - http://www.hudl.com/profile/8186410/Gui ... llo/videos
26.) Hank Dunn (Eureka) - QB/WR/S - 6'0", 175 lbs. (Yakima Valley CC Baseball) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8562473/Hank-Dunn/videos
27.) Josh Erbacher (Billings West) - QB - 6'4", 195 lbs. (Unsigned) - http://www.hudl.com/profile/8568076/Jos ... her/videos
28.) Colby Kohlman (Florence/Carlton) - ATH - 6'1", 195 LBS. (Unsigned) - https://www.hudl.com/profile/8959735/Co ... man/videos
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Post by blueandgoldblitz » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am

Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?


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blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.


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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by arvcat2 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:54 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.
Vim, love what you do on this board & the work you put into this recruiting stuff, but with all due respect, my recollection is you never had Troy Andersen any any sort of tier 1 category. Please feel free to dig into the archives and prove me wrong, but it was only I who ranked Troy #1 in his class (overall) and he did not make your overall top five.



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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:17 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:54 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.
Vim, love what you do on this board & the work you put into this recruiting stuff, but with all due respect, my recollection is you never had Troy Andersen any any sort of tier 1 category. Please feel free to dig into the archives and prove me wrong, but it was only I who ranked Troy #1 in his class (overall) and he did not make your overall top five.
I ranked Keaton Anderson ahead of him in the 2017 class and I get to live with that for the rest of my days. However, you definitely were not the lone wolf on declaring Troy the best player in that class. You and about every coach/media person in the state said as much during that recruiting season. I stuck with Keaton as I really felt he had a bright future (prior to injuries derailing his college career thus far) coming out of high school. Hope he can still make it work.

Anyway, I was asked the question "who would be in this category"? I then gave 7 players over the past 10 years that fit the bill. Obviously, some hindsight on Troy's ranking has been happening since he stepped on the field for MSU. Don't know what overall Top 5 you speak of but Troy was #2 in 2017 (again...I'm living with that one).


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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by arvcat2 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:28 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:17 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:54 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.
Vim, love what you do on this board & the work you put into this recruiting stuff, but with all due respect, my recollection is you never had Troy Andersen any any sort of tier 1 category. Please feel free to dig into the archives and prove me wrong, but it was only I who ranked Troy #1 in his class (overall) and he did not make your overall top five.
I ranked Keaton Anderson ahead of him in the 2017 class and I get to live with that for the rest of my days. However, you definitely were not the lone wolf on declaring Troy the best player in that class. You and about every coach/media person in the state said as much during that recruiting season. I stuck with Keaton as I really felt he had a bright future (prior to injuries derailing his college career thus far) coming out of high school. Hope he can still make it work.

Anyway, I was asked the question "who would be in this category"? I then gave 7 players over the past 10 years that fit the bill. Obviously, some hindsight on Troy's ranking has been happening since he stepped on the field for MSU. Don't know what overall Top 5 you speak of but Troy was #2 in 2017 (again...I'm living with that one).
Here you go:
Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (28 Commits)
Post by arvcat2 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:13 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
When I have some downtime, I'll release my individual ranking on this class with opinions on strengths and weaknesses for each prospect. I won't include the transfers. For a teaser, here is my Top 5:

1) Jalen Cole
2) Zach Redd
3) Tucker Rovig
4) Tyrel Thomas
5) Travis Yates

Yeah, I think Zach Redd is really, really good.

1-Troy Anderson Total package of speed, size, smarts & Montana work ethic.
2-Sean Hatten Great Hudl video & pic of him with his yuuge :shock: Dad during his recruiting visit.
3-Jalen Cole The 3-Star thingy.
4-Taden Gillman Just a fantastic all around athlete with pedigree, pedigree & more pedigree. With an inch or more height closer to his Dad....look out!
5-Zach Redd Following the crowd here :wink:

Edit: Back then, I spelled his name wrong too :oops:



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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:39 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:17 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:54 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.
Vim, love what you do on this board & the work you put into this recruiting stuff, but with all due respect, my recollection is you never had Troy Andersen any any sort of tier 1 category. Please feel free to dig into the archives and prove me wrong, but it was only I who ranked Troy #1 in his class (overall) and he did not make your overall top five.
I ranked Keaton Anderson ahead of him in the 2017 class and I get to live with that for the rest of my days. However, you definitely were not the lone wolf on declaring Troy the best player in that class. You and about every coach/media person in the state said as much during that recruiting season. I stuck with Keaton as I really felt he had a bright future (prior to injuries derailing his college career thus far) coming out of high school. Hope he can still make it work.

Anyway, I was asked the question "who would be in this category"? I then gave 7 players over the past 10 years that fit the bill. Obviously, some hindsight on Troy's ranking has been happening since he stepped on the field for MSU. Don't know what overall Top 5 you speak of but Troy was #2 in 2017 (again...I'm living with that one).
Here you go:
Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (28 Commits)
Post by arvcat2 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:13 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
When I have some downtime, I'll release my individual ranking on this class with opinions on strengths and weaknesses for each prospect. I won't include the transfers. For a teaser, here is my Top 5:

1) Jalen Cole
2) Zach Redd
3) Tucker Rovig
4) Tyrel Thomas
5) Travis Yates

Yeah, I think Zach Redd is really, really good.

1-Troy Anderson Total package of speed, size, smarts & Montana work ethic.
2-Sean Hatten Great Hudl video & pic of him with his yuuge :shock: Dad during his recruiting visit.
3-Jalen Cole The 3-Star thingy.
4-Taden Gillman Just a fantastic all around athlete with pedigree, pedigree & more pedigree. With an inch or more height closer to his Dad....look out!
5-Zach Redd Following the crowd here :wink:

Edit: Back then, I spelled his name wrong too :oops:
Oh the overall recruit list! Good work. So now what I'd like to see from you is a ranking every year of our recruits!


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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by arvcat2 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:05 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:39 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:17 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:54 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.
Vim, love what you do on this board & the work you put into this recruiting stuff, but with all due respect, my recollection is you never had Troy Andersen any any sort of tier 1 category. Please feel free to dig into the archives and prove me wrong, but it was only I who ranked Troy #1 in his class (overall) and he did not make your overall top five.
I ranked Keaton Anderson ahead of him in the 2017 class and I get to live with that for the rest of my days. However, you definitely were not the lone wolf on declaring Troy the best player in that class. You and about every coach/media person in the state said as much during that recruiting season. I stuck with Keaton as I really felt he had a bright future (prior to injuries derailing his college career thus far) coming out of high school. Hope he can still make it work.

Anyway, I was asked the question "who would be in this category"? I then gave 7 players over the past 10 years that fit the bill. Obviously, some hindsight on Troy's ranking has been happening since he stepped on the field for MSU. Don't know what overall Top 5 you speak of but Troy was #2 in 2017 (again...I'm living with that one).
Here you go:
Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (28 Commits)
Post by arvcat2 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:13 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
When I have some downtime, I'll release my individual ranking on this class with opinions on strengths and weaknesses for each prospect. I won't include the transfers. For a teaser, here is my Top 5:

1) Jalen Cole
2) Zach Redd
3) Tucker Rovig
4) Tyrel Thomas
5) Travis Yates

Yeah, I think Zach Redd is really, really good.

1-Troy Anderson Total package of speed, size, smarts & Montana work ethic.
2-Sean Hatten Great Hudl video & pic of him with his yuuge :shock: Dad during his recruiting visit.
3-Jalen Cole The 3-Star thingy.
4-Taden Gillman Just a fantastic all around athlete with pedigree, pedigree & more pedigree. With an inch or more height closer to his Dad....look out!
5-Zach Redd Following the crowd here :wink:

Edit: Back then, I spelled his name wrong too :oops:
Oh the overall recruit list! Good work.
So now what I'd like to see from you is a ranking every year of our recruits!
If you mean in-depth analysis like what you do, no thanks. As I previously stated, your efforts are greatly appreciated and what you bring to this board is great stuff! Just watch your retroactive claims :wink:



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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by asstastic » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:18 am

arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:05 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:39 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:17 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:54 pm
blueandgoldblitz wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:16 am
Who are examples of who you would have as tier one from this decade? I'm guessing possibly Troy Andersen (coming out of high school, I don't think anyone expected what he would become, but I could be wrong) and Will Dissly. Any others?
I only have seven:

Matt Miller (Helena Capital) - 2010 Boise State
Tanner Roderick (Bozeman) - 2011 Nevada/2013 Montana State
Dylan Hanser (Billings Central) - 2013 Washington State
Will Dissly (Bozeman) - 2014 Washington
Jesse Sims (Corvallis) - 2015 Montana
Troy Andersen (Dillon) - 2017 Montana State
Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 2018 Montana

Roderick and Sims maybe didn't have the careers everyone was expecting them to have (Sims still earned multiple All-Big Sky honors). But out of high school, they were viewed as no-doubter FBS recruits. People will doubt me on Gabe but he was the best player in AA for nearly 4 years and one of the most dynamic playmakers I've ever seen on tape. Troy was completely under-recruited by FBS schools.

The Tier 1 group is a high bar and for good reason. It should be hard to make that group.
Vim, love what you do on this board & the work you put into this recruiting stuff, but with all due respect, my recollection is you never had Troy Andersen any any sort of tier 1 category. Please feel free to dig into the archives and prove me wrong, but it was only I who ranked Troy #1 in his class (overall) and he did not make your overall top five.
I ranked Keaton Anderson ahead of him in the 2017 class and I get to live with that for the rest of my days. However, you definitely were not the lone wolf on declaring Troy the best player in that class. You and about every coach/media person in the state said as much during that recruiting season. I stuck with Keaton as I really felt he had a bright future (prior to injuries derailing his college career thus far) coming out of high school. Hope he can still make it work.

Anyway, I was asked the question "who would be in this category"? I then gave 7 players over the past 10 years that fit the bill. Obviously, some hindsight on Troy's ranking has been happening since he stepped on the field for MSU. Don't know what overall Top 5 you speak of but Troy was #2 in 2017 (again...I'm living with that one).
Here you go:
Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (28 Commits)
Post by arvcat2 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:13 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
When I have some downtime, I'll release my individual ranking on this class with opinions on strengths and weaknesses for each prospect. I won't include the transfers. For a teaser, here is my Top 5:

1) Jalen Cole
2) Zach Redd
3) Tucker Rovig
4) Tyrel Thomas
5) Travis Yates

Yeah, I think Zach Redd is really, really good.

1-Troy Anderson Total package of speed, size, smarts & Montana work ethic.
2-Sean Hatten Great Hudl video & pic of him with his yuuge :shock: Dad during his recruiting visit.
3-Jalen Cole The 3-Star thingy.
4-Taden Gillman Just a fantastic all around athlete with pedigree, pedigree & more pedigree. With an inch or more height closer to his Dad....look out!
5-Zach Redd Following the crowd here :wink:

Edit: Back then, I spelled his name wrong too :oops:
Oh the overall recruit list! Good work.
So now what I'd like to see from you is a ranking every year of our recruits!
If you mean in-depth analysis like what you do, no thanks. As I previously stated, your efforts are greatly appreciated and what you bring to this board is great stuff! Just watch your retroactive claims :wink:
Really?


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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by kwcat » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:43 pm

Thanks for your work!



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Re: 2020 Montana Recruits - Final Rankings

Post by SACCAT » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:53 pm

What am I seeing is Carter Ash that others aren't... I am not saying he is a tier 2 player or anything, but he was THE BEST Db I saw this year, and sure he is 6', but his football IQ his better than any I have seen in a long time. Was talking to Colter about it during the Semifinal game, and he also said that he was shocked at how little anyone was looking at him... I know he is looking at Ivy league schools for academics.



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