Griz bank

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:05 am

Word is Iowa will pay Montana $600,000 to play football in Iowa City on Labor Day weekend while the Gophers will pay North Dakota State $30,000 for their Oct. 21 game at the Metrodome.
-- St. Paul Pioneer Press

Post by **kmax** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:13 am

catamaran wrote:Word is Iowa will pay Montana $600,000 to play football in Iowa City on Labor Day weekend while the Gophers will pay North Dakota State $30,000 for their Oct. 21 game at the Metrodome.
-- St. Paul Pioneer Press

I hope that is a typo and you just forgot a zero on that one?!?! They could have gotten $30,000 for going to play a I-AA team.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:24 am

I'm just recycling that by pasting from SI.com

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:29 am

The Gophers are certainly no I-A powerhouse, but $30,000 is nothing. Must be a mistake somewhere. NDSU wuld make a lot more playing a DII at home.

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:34 pm

I went to a GSA meeting where they put out that the Griz will get more for their one 1-A game than any other BSC team gets for their 1-A games combined. In this regard, the example they used was the Griz will get more for the Iowa game than PSU will get for their 3 1-A games combined.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:03 pm

Then the PSU athletic director is an idiot. Why would you play 3 and put yourself in a position to not make the playoffs when you do not make that much money. I understand that because the Griz are competetive that you will still draw a large crowd and with Iowa they can pack the place whoever they play. But other large 1-A schools also get large crowds and can afford to pay more. not getting at least what the griz get for 1 out of 2 games would be bad enough. If there is not a big payout there is no reason for the game other than if they do not get much crowd for a home game then maybe they are still coming out money ahead but not competetiveness or playoff ability.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:04 pm

BR GRIZ wrote:I went to a GSA meeting where they put out that the Griz will get more for their one 1-A game than any other BSC team gets for their 1-A games combined. In this regard, the example they used was the Griz will get more for the Iowa game than PSU will get for their 3 1-A games combined.

And hopefully no injuries!

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:05 pm

One reason UM can command more for playing in a I-A game is because they make more on their home games than do most I-AA schools. So if the offer isn't sweet enough, UM will avoid the I-A game and schedule another home game.

PSU has got to find a way to market that program.

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:26 pm

How much are we getting to play UC? I think it is in the neighborhood of $250K. If we could have a couple of those $600K games (one each year) we could start that stadium construction project a year earlier.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:31 pm

Why would a good 1-A school pay a 1-AA like the Griz $600,000 if they could get another quality program, like the Cats, for $250,000. You can't tell me that they are looking for a challenge in the game. Wouldn't you think they would just make more money and play another 1-AA

Griz Dude · Post by **Griz Dude** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:04 pm

The fact that Iowa could get the Cats for less than half of what they are willing to pay the Griz should tell you something. You get what you pay for.

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:42 am

gtapp wrote:How much are we getting to play UC? I think it is in the neighborhood of $250K. If we could have a couple of those $600K games (one each year) we could start that stadium construction project a year earlier.

A post yesterday on AGS said we're getting $285,000 to play Colorado.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:52 am

Griz Dude, you are ignoring the point with your arrogant griz answer. Why would a school like Iowa want to pay more when they can get teams on the same caliber of the Griz ( this was a compliment to their program), like the CATS ( this says we are on the same level) or others who finished high in the post season last year, for less money. As I said before, 1-A teams do not take these games, and pay money to do it, to get beat. They are pulling in teams to be competetive but get the easy win. Doing so, why would you pay more than you have to. If the Griz want that much go get another team.

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:27 am

It is my understanding the Griz set the standard for the most paid by a 1-A team to a 1-AA team with the $450,000 paid to them by Oregon last year, and that teams went into this year with that figure as the benchmark in their negotiations. The new benchmark of $600,000 is one that very few 1-A teams can pay, and less than a handful of 1-AA teams can demand. I'm not denying Tetoncat's claim that the Cats and some other teams were the Griz equal or were better on the field last year, but at this point there are only a couple of other 1-AA teams in the nation that can even come close to being able to demand that kind of money.

Post by **kmax** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:38 am

I don't deny that the Griz are one of the only I-AA teams that can demand and get that kind of money from a I-A and I say more power to them for it. However, I have to agree with tetoncat in wondering what the reason is that an Iowa is willing to pay that premium vs. bringing in a less expensive (but equally competitive) I-AA or even a low level I-A?

info197176 · Post by **info197176** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:46 am

I think what happened is that this opening in Iowa's schedule came up late and the Griz were one of the only options so it was a seller's market...but I could be wrong..

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:56 am

info197176 wrote:I think what happened is that this opening in Iowa's schedule came up late and the Griz were one of the only options so it was a seller's market...but I could be wrong..

I was about to make a similar post, I think you're right.

BR GRIZ · Post by **BR GRIZ** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:27 am

Its all about money. The Griz run permits Iowa to market this as a competitive game, with all the benefits that come from that, whether or not the game turns out to be so. Iowa anticipates they will make more money to pay the Griz than paying less to most other 1-AA teams. This may have been a Seller's market, but I'm sure several 1-AA teams would have bought out a scheduled game, for example, if Iowa would have offered them $450,000. This is what the Griz did in 2005 with Oregon.

Griz Dude · Post by **Griz Dude** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:06 pm

Very naive on the part of the Cat fans who think that being equal on the field determines marketing power. There have been years when Boise State was superior on the field than USC (like immediately before Pete Carroll yook over as coach). But, do you think for a minute that Iowa would guarantee as much money to get Boise State to come to Iowa City as it would USC, no matter what their record? It's all about tradition, marketing power, and putting bottoms in the seats.

No way MSU has the draw and marketing power that UM does. Three trips to the IAA championship game in the past 10 years does that for ya. Figure it out.

HelenaCat95 · Post by **HelenaCat95** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:23 pm

Griz Dude wrote:Very naive on the part of the Cat fans who think that being equal on the field determines marketing power. There have been years when Boise State was superior on the field than USC (like immediately before Pete Carroll yook over as coach). But, do you think for a minute that Iowa would guarantee as much money to get Boise State to come to Iowa City as it would USC, no matter what their record? It's all about tradition, marketing power, and putting bottoms in the seats.

No way MSU has the draw and marketing power that UM does. Three trips to the IAA championship game in the past 10 years does that for ya. Figure it out.

Grizdude,
I think you are correct in your post, but only in regards to 1-a ball. I have a hard time believing that the Griz (or any other 1-aa powerhouse, except for maybe Northern Iowa because of location) is going to put more butts in seats in Iowa than most any other school. I would think that at a perennial Big 10 powerhouse school, that most if not all games are sell-outs, or very close to it.

I am ready to be proven wrong.

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