UCLA and USC to the Big 10?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:46 am
Dominoes are falling boys. @Common Cat's prediction of MSU to the MWC in the next 5 years may just have gotten a kick in the pants.
I’d say it’s a very likely scenario now. Boise State is almost a lock for PAC 12 I would assume possibly Fresno State to keep a California pipeline?Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pmBeen saying it as well. I believe it could be the reason Leon hasn't left. He knows there is a good chance he can stay in Bz AND be a MWC AD.
I agree on Boise State, but maybe San Diego State would also be a strong possibility.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:48 pmI’d say it’s a very likely scenario now. Boise State is almost a lock for PAC 12 I would assume possibly Fresno State to keep a California pipeline?Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pmBeen saying it as well. I believe it could be the reason Leon hasn't left. He knows there is a good chance he can stay in Bz AND be a MWC AD.
The other reason he has stayed probably has a lot to do with his family. He has 3 kids under 8th grade. Gets to help coach on their teams and watch them play.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pmBeen saying it as well. I believe it could be the reason Leon hasn't left. He knows there is a good chance he can stay in Bz AND be a MWC AD.
Balancing career and family is always a challenge families struggle with. But for right career advancement you can make it work. We moved five times with three kids under eighth grade including international. Others on here that were or are military likely face that. Yeah we missed some continuity but we also had some great new adventures. I lost some coaching of kids but also was able to assist or head coach in a number of places….and made over 90% of all their events.kcatz wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:20 pmThe other reason he has stayed probably has a lot to do with his family. He has 3 kids under 8th grade. Gets to help coach on their teams and watch them play.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pmBeen saying it as well. I believe it could be the reason Leon hasn't left. He knows there is a good chance he can stay in Bz AND be a MWC AD.
It's a lot to give up and becomes harder at the next level.
Let's see.BobcatDel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:28 pmBalancing career and family is always a challenge families struggle with. But for right career advancement you can make it work. We moved five times with three kids under eighth grade including international. Others on here that were or are military likely face that. Yeah we missed some continuity but we also had some great new adventures. I lost some coaching of kids but also was able to assist or head coach in a number of places….and made over 90% of all their events.kcatz wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:20 pmThe other reason he has stayed probably has a lot to do with his family. He has 3 kids under 8th grade. Gets to help coach on their teams and watch them play.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pmBeen saying it as well. I believe it could be the reason Leon hasn't left. He knows there is a good chance he can stay in Bz AND be a MWC AD.
It's a lot to give up and becomes harder at the next level.
I guess my point is for the right career opportunity he would move on. He has a lot to offer. I am sure he and Wadid have those career discussions.
Weber State has their ****** together way more than Idaho doesRich K wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 amWhat might be interesting is if the Mountain West instead of picking up 2 teams picked up 4 teams from the FCS, specifically the Big Sky.
UC Davis might be the best positioned financially to move to FBS. They have a $1.8 Billion endowment and have already had stadium upgrade approved. When they move up to FBS fickle Californians will come watch them.
Montana State might be next based on the trajectory of the University in recent years. MSU is not the anchor anymore, UM is the anchor. If we really are tied together by the regents than UM gets to ride along.
The fourth team would be the best of the rest - -Idaho. They stunk up their last trip to FBS but if they ride along with MSU and UM this time it will be different.
The rest of the Big Sky is not ready for prime time and might have to pick up a team or two. Since the bottom of the FCS is already overfilled with teams that shouldn't be Division 1 they might as well pull in a Central Washington or Eastern Oregon. I won't care anyway.
Ndsu way before Idahodamnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:40 pmWeber State has their ****** together way more than Idaho doesRich K wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 amWhat might be interesting is if the Mountain West instead of picking up 2 teams picked up 4 teams from the FCS, specifically the Big Sky.
UC Davis might be the best positioned financially to move to FBS. They have a $1.8 Billion endowment and have already had stadium upgrade approved. When they move up to FBS fickle Californians will come watch them.
Montana State might be next based on the trajectory of the University in recent years. MSU is not the anchor anymore, UM is the anchor. If we really are tied together by the regents than UM gets to ride along.
The fourth team would be the best of the rest - -Idaho. They stunk up their last trip to FBS but if they ride along with MSU and UM this time it will be different.
The rest of the Big Sky is not ready for prime time and might have to pick up a team or two. Since the bottom of the FCS is already overfilled with teams that shouldn't be Division 1 they might as well pull in a Central Washington or Eastern Oregon. I won't care anyway.
Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:54 pmNdsu way before Idahodamnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:40 pmWeber State has their ****** together way more than Idaho doesRich K wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 amWhat might be interesting is if the Mountain West instead of picking up 2 teams picked up 4 teams from the FCS, specifically the Big Sky.
UC Davis might be the best positioned financially to move to FBS. They have a $1.8 Billion endowment and have already had stadium upgrade approved. When they move up to FBS fickle Californians will come watch them.
Montana State might be next based on the trajectory of the University in recent years. MSU is not the anchor anymore, UM is the anchor. If we really are tied together by the regents than UM gets to ride along.
The fourth team would be the best of the rest - -Idaho. They stunk up their last trip to FBS but if they ride along with MSU and UM this time it will be different.
The rest of the Big Sky is not ready for prime time and might have to pick up a team or two. Since the bottom of the FCS is already overfilled with teams that shouldn't be Division 1 they might as well pull in a Central Washington or Eastern Oregon. I won't care anyway.
Don't go to Scout, a couple of vandal's think they belong in the pac 8.Rich K wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:32 pmMontanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:54 pmNdsu way before Idahodamnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:40 pmWeber State has their ****** together way more than Idaho doesRich K wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 amWhat might be interesting is if the Mountain West instead of picking up 2 teams picked up 4 teams from the FCS, specifically the Big Sky.
UC Davis might be the best positioned financially to move to FBS. They have a $1.8 Billion endowment and have already had stadium upgrade approved. When they move up to FBS fickle Californians will come watch them.
Montana State might be next based on the trajectory of the University in recent years. MSU is not the anchor anymore, UM is the anchor. If we really are tied together by the regents than UM gets to ride along.
The fourth team would be the best of the rest - -Idaho. They stunk up their last trip to FBS but if they ride along with MSU and UM this time it will be different.
The rest of the Big Sky is not ready for prime time and might have to pick up a team or two. Since the bottom of the FCS is already overfilled with teams that shouldn't be Division 1 they might as well pull in a Central Washington or Eastern Oregon. I won't care anyway.
If the PAC starts adding teams UCD will get a serious look. They have the academic credentials and the money to upgrade their stadium. They would instantly be competitive.Montanabob wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:45 pmDon't go to Scout, a couple of vandal's think they belong in the pac 8.Rich K wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:32 pmMontanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:54 pmNdsu way before Idahodamnyoutuesday wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:40 pmWeber State has their ****** together way more than Idaho doesRich K wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:45 amWhat might be interesting is if the Mountain West instead of picking up 2 teams picked up 4 teams from the FCS, specifically the Big Sky.
UC Davis might be the best positioned financially to move to FBS. They have a $1.8 Billion endowment and have already had stadium upgrade approved. When they move up to FBS fickle Californians will come watch them.
Montana State might be next based on the trajectory of the University in recent years. MSU is not the anchor anymore, UM is the anchor. If we really are tied together by the regents than UM gets to ride along.
The fourth team would be the best of the rest - -Idaho. They stunk up their last trip to FBS but if they ride along with MSU and UM this time it will be different.
The rest of the Big Sky is not ready for prime time and might have to pick up a team or two. Since the bottom of the FCS is already overfilled with teams that shouldn't be Division 1 they might as well pull in a Central Washington or Eastern Oregon. I won't care anyway.
It seems to be that LA is a good basketball city but has never been a great football city. The only real passionate football fanbase in that whole state was the Raiders and they moved them to Vegas. I mean I'm a Rams fan and even during their Super Bowl season it seems like it wasn't as big of deal in LA as you would have thought it would have been.theblackgecko wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:00 pmThe Big Ten's mistake was not taking Nike U and Washington at the same time and just killing the Pac-12.
That aside, when I visited SoCal in Thanksgiving, no one cared about SC or UCLA. There was Rams stuff everywhere. If SC ends up being a middling Big Ten team (like it's been the majority of the time in the Pac-10 / 12 for the past three decades), there will be more fans watching the Griz or Cats then seeing if SC can become bowl eligible with a win over Purdue. SC can be a big deal... but when the fans don't care those fans really don't care. UCLA is similar, except it has an even lower ceiling.
Yeah, TV is everything.CelticCat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:34 amIt seems to be that LA is a good basketball city but has never been a great football city. The only real passionate football fanbase in that whole state was the Raiders and they moved them to Vegas. I mean I'm a Rams fan and even during their Super Bowl season it seems like it wasn't as big of deal in LA as you would have thought it would have been.theblackgecko wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:00 pmThe Big Ten's mistake was not taking Nike U and Washington at the same time and just killing the Pac-12.
That aside, when I visited SoCal in Thanksgiving, no one cared about SC or UCLA. There was Rams stuff everywhere. If SC ends up being a middling Big Ten team (like it's been the majority of the time in the Pac-10 / 12 for the past three decades), there will be more fans watching the Griz or Cats then seeing if SC can become bowl eligible with a win over Purdue. SC can be a big deal... but when the fans don't care those fans really don't care. UCLA is similar, except it has an even lower ceiling.
But it's a big TV market which is the most important part right now.