Rich K wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:19 am
ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:50 am
Rich K wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:04 am
Given those that seem disturbed about OAN see a racist behind every rock, I'm sure it's not as bad as proclaimed.
I'm very aware of who they are. And I can see why African Americans would have an issue with some of what they stand for. I don't see racists behind every rock. Far from it. But I also don't think blacks are lying about how they feel either.
As a sports fan, and a fan of the Cats I'm sure you like all of our players. You may be surprised that our black athletes don't see a racist behind every rock either. But I can assure you they're offended by lots of what OAN stands for. And because I can never relate to what a black person feels offended by, rather than telling them they are wrong, or belittle their feelings, I'll try to understand why they feel the way they do.
I think if more people tried to do this, instead of accusing them of "looking for racists", we'd all be better off. Just my opinion, don't expect you to feel the same way.
Ok. Let's have it. What specifically is it that "OAN stands for" is objectionable? You say you are "very aware" of who they are this should be easy for you to quickly lay it out.
Well, I am "very aware" of OAN. They've created headlines a lot in the time since they were created 7 or 8 years ago. A few things off the top of my head that may be considered objectionable.
First considering that a poll suggested that 83% of blacks think that Trump is racist, I assume that any support of him would be offensive to most blacks. That's kind of a given. To be clear, I'm not saying he IS racist, or that their views are correct. I'm saying if you're a network in which Trump has never done anything wrong in his life, there's a chance that blacks may oppose that.
Their take on BLM was terrible. Again, if you are one who thinks that BLM means that white lives DON'T matter, you may not have an issue with that. But it's been said countless times, to anyone willing to listen, BLM isn't saying they matter MORE than whites, or that white lives don't matter. Because of this, if Gundy decided to wear an "All Lives Matter" t-shirt, I imagine many would be offended.
When Trump was in the news for "Grab them by their pussies" comments, rather than condemn those statements, OAN defended him by pointing out ****** behavior from other presidents. I don't know if you have a wife or daughter, but when I heard him say that I couldn't believe it. Does this make him a bad President? I don't think so. But as I was appalled he'd say it, I was equally appalled that it was defended.
They are widely knows for their conspiracy theories in anything that may make Trump, or his administration look bad. Most recently the Buffalo man they accused of being ANTIFA and throwing himself on the ground, despite video evidence showing otherwise.
Your links were in fact legit from what I can tell. I never claimed everything that network does is dishonest. However, I could find links right now showing why so many don't support OAN, especially blacks.
The simple fact is all I'm saying is to me, it makes perfect sense why a black man would be offended when his white coach supports a network that doesn't support blacks. Apparently Gundy agrees because he has apologized and now says he's disgusted with their take on BLM.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting that just because of the current climate everything blacks say should be taken as gospel. I'm saying that because we can't relate, being white males, what does it hurt to at least listen to what they are saying offends them?
Now that I tried to answer your question, do you think that everyone that has issues with OAN is "looking for racists behind every rock"? That seems akin to saying ALL lives matter, which is completely missing the point of what is trying to be said.