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Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:47 am
by Hawks86

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:45 am
by Montanabob
Hawks86 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:47 am
Simple fix for them, as their NFL alumni to pony up.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:19 pm
by Montanabob
Big wack to athletics . 10% salary and position cuts

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
by MSU01
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:09 pm
by The Butcher
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Colleges anticipate lower enrollment too. I spoke with a friend who is a university president (not MSU) and they are planning 5%, 10% and 15% decline. They said that is how most colleges are budgeting the coming school year.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
by Montanabob
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
by RickRund
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
BOOM

Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:38 am
by The Butcher
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
BOOM

Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
So we tell people what they can learn.
So we choose who will teach what will be learned.
This thinking historically has NEVER gone wrong.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:20 am
by RickRund
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:38 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
BOOM

Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
So we tell people what they can learn.
So we choose who will teach what will be learned.
This thinking historically has NEVER gone wrong.
Don't all degrees have prerequisites.

Professors are chosen to teach certain classes everyday. Make sure they are HIGHLY qualified.

Surely don't want bernie sanders teaching the Constitution.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 am
by Grizlaw
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
What is the measure of a “real” knowledge of the Constitution, in your view?

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am
by Rich K
Grizlaw wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
What is the measure of a “real” knowledge of the Constitution, in your view?
As for me, I'm not sure how to make that measurement, but I do believe Rob Natelson's approach works for me. You probably know who he is, but for the others https://fedsoc.org/contributors/robert-natelson

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:19 pm
by Grizlaw
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am
Grizlaw wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
What is the measure of a “real” knowledge of the Constitution, in your view?
As for me, I'm not sure how to make that measurement, but I do believe Rob Natelson's approach works for me. You probably know who he is, but for the others https://fedsoc.org/contributors/robert-natelson
I know Professor Natelson reasonably well - he taught Property when I was at UM. And I agree; he’s quite knowledgeable.

In my experience, whether or not someone “knows the Constitution” usually depends on whether the person whose knowledge is in question agrees with the person doing the questioning. So when most people say they want people to be taught a “real” knowledge of the Constitution (or things of similar import), what they really mean is that they want everyone to be indoctrinated with the same world view that they hold (whatever that may be). That was the point I was trying to tease out.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:14 pm
by Rich K
Grizlaw wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
What is the measure of a “real” knowledge of the Constitution, in your view?
I'll toss your question right back at you. What is the measure of any "real" knowledge? Should the State be called upon to subsidize the instruction of such knowledge? While a literate and learned society is of high value to a civil society, at what point does indoctrination take place when a government funds the learning?

The Bastiat in me says it's time to take the chain saw to government funding of higher education.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:13 pm
by MSU01
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
Well that escalated quickly. I'm not sure how predicting financial troubles for college athletic departments makes me a "pansy liberal", but ok.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:07 pm
by Montanabob
MSU01 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:13 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
Well that escalated quickly. I'm not sure how predicting financial troubles for college athletic departments makes me a "pansy liberal", but ok.
Wasn't implying that you were a pansy liberal, but I noticed a lot of EWU faculty that were complaining were trying to get sports banned. But their endowment sucks, $18.5 m, they had 1 academic teacher per 15 students and the same for admin staff. You would think so of their STEM graduates or athletes would pony up. We know the liberal art majors are to busy filing unemployment to care or are a a protest.

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:27 pm
by Cataholic
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:38 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
BOOM

Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
So we tell people what they can learn.
So we choose who will teach what will be learned.
This thinking historically has NEVER gone wrong.
Isn’t that why liberals are tearing down monuments and statues?

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:25 pm
by MSU01
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:07 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:13 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
Well that escalated quickly. I'm not sure how predicting financial troubles for college athletic departments makes me a "pansy liberal", but ok.
Wasn't implying that you were a pansy liberal, but I noticed a lot of EWU faculty that were complaining were trying to get sports banned. But their endowment sucks, $18.5 m, they had 1 academic teacher per 15 students and the same for admin staff. You would think so of their STEM graduates or athletes would pony up. We know the liberal art majors are to busy filing unemployment to care or are a a protest.
Oh ok, well if we're bashing EWU I'm right there with you, friend!

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:01 pm
by grizzh8r
Cataholic wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:27 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:38 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
BOOM

Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
So we tell people what they can learn.
So we choose who will teach what will be learned.
This thinking historically has NEVER gone wrong.
Isn’t that why liberals are tearing down monuments and statues?
Micdrop... :coffee:

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:10 pm
by Montanabob
MSU01 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:25 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:07 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:13 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
Well that escalated quickly. I'm not sure how predicting financial troubles for college athletic departments makes me a "pansy liberal", but ok.
Wasn't implying that you were a pansy liberal, but I noticed a lot of EWU faculty that were complaining were trying to get sports banned. But their endowment sucks, $18.5 m, they had 1 academic teacher per 15 students and the same for admin staff. You would think so of their STEM graduates or athletes would pony up. We know the liberal art majors are to busy filing unemployment to care or are a a protest.
Oh ok, well if we're bashing EWU I'm right there with you, friend!
Oh don't get me wrong liberals are idiots

Re: Eastern Washington Looking at Cutting Football and/or Athletics

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:35 am
by The Butcher
Cataholic wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:27 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:38 am
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:44 am
Montanabob wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:45 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:32 pm
I think this is only the first drop in the bucket. A lot of schools are going to take some major hits due to this thing, especially in the increasingly likely case of some kind of disruption to the 2020-21 season.
Okay I'll say it before anyone else and the board mediators will probably censor me. Why don't we drop a few liberal art major and keep the stem classes going. Maybe if you really pansy liberals actually got an education we might not be having these protesters and rioters destroying property.
BOOM

Just make sure REAL history is taught and a REAL knowledge of the Constitution. The next question to be asked/posed is who would be teaching?
So we tell people what they can learn.
So we choose who will teach what will be learned.
This thinking historically has NEVER gone wrong.
Isn’t that why liberals are tearing down monuments and statues?
Not sure how you made that connection from my post. To clarify it for you; my comment was in regard to Rick and Bob wanting to determine what people can learn and who can teach them that information. From your post; I presume you agree they shouldn't do that! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: