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um enrollment
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:31 pm
by autocat
According to the Billings Gazette, " university of Montana enrollment dropped again this past year, from 5.2% to 8.5% depending on the way um counts students."
"um enrollment counted by the old method dropped 33.5% from 2011 to 2018"
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:55 pm
by Bobcat4Ever
Nobody really publicly counts by the “new” method. That’s just a red herring to try to make the -8.5% not look so bad.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:10 pm
by RickRund
Bobcat4Ever wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:55 pm
Nobody really publicly counts by the “new” method. That’s just a red herring to try to make the -8.5% not look so bad.
The "new math" taught ccum style.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:23 am
by wbtfg
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:48 pm
by Cataholic
This is hard to understand. I realize that this $2 million upgrade is from private funding, but given the state of UM enrollment and finances, this seems to be a bad time for such a project.
https://mtstandard.com/sports/college/b ... eeb99.html
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:45 pm
by RickRund
Don't really expect any academic upgrades. There are no students left.
Yes, this is ludicrous. Just more proof what is important at the city college. They must be so proud.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:52 am
by hokeyfine
they are hanging on to the myth that great sports teams boost enrollment. when you have nothing academically to offer you need hang your hat on shiny and opulent rooms for athletes.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:55 am
by MSU Toddler
RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:45 pm
Don't really expect any academic upgrades. There are no students left.
Yes, this is ludicrous. Just more proof what is important at the city college. They must be so proud.
What truly is ludicrous is that a portion of MSU's success ($$$) is redistributed back into the Montana University System (MUS) and thus supporting the failing Missoula County Community college WHILE these types of things are taking place (yes - I know it is privately funded). The BOR also desires to use some of MSU's techniques, like recruiting, to help all MUS programs grow. Little brother over the hill is leaching off THE Flagship school...
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:05 am
by iaafan
hokeyfine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:52 am
they are hanging on to the myth that great sports teams boost enrollment. when you have nothing academically to offer you need hang your hat on shiny and opulent rooms for athletes.
Great sports teams are doing less and less for driving enrollment. Attendance at games is waning nationally.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:34 am
by Cledus
MSU Toddler wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:55 am
RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:45 pm
Don't really expect any academic upgrades. There are no students left.
Yes, this is ludicrous. Just more proof what is important at the city college. They must be so proud.
What truly is ludicrous is that a portion of MSU's success ($$$) is redistributed back into the Montana University System (MUS) and thus supporting the failing Missoula County Community college WHILE these types of things are taking place (yes - I know it is privately funded). The BOR also desires to use some of MSU's techniques, like recruiting, to help all MUS programs grow. Little brother over the hill is leaching off THE Flagship school...
Yeah, I can't remember where that was reported but it pissed me off a bit. It's one thing to help them out a bit. It's an entirely different thing that the regents throw good money after bad while um chases shiny things.
I hope the regents don't continue forcing MSU to prop up those turds for a prolonged period of time. I doubt theyhave enough spine to make a tough decision.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:09 pm
by KittieKop
Well, they could renovate classroom or dorm space into athletics-used spaces. They obviously have no use for them.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:46 pm
by Cledus
KittieKop wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:09 pm
Well, they could renovate classroom or dorm space into athletics-used spaces. They obviously have no use for them.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:52 pm
by Bobcat4Ever
Their new athletic facility is funded by private donations. Our new engineering building is funded by private donations.
QED
GO CATS!!!
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:08 pm
by iaafan
Bobcat4Ever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:52 pm
Their new athletic facility is funded by private donations. Our new engineering building is funded by private donations.
QED
GO CATS!!!
Upon board approval, the UM athletic facility was borrowing about $5 million. Aside from Washington Group funds, only $2 million private funds were raised. I’d be surprised if the same donors that only chipped in $2 million came up with $5 million more in that short period.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:32 am
by wbtfg
In light of all the enrollment challenges UM is experiencing, does anyone else find it interesting that a big chunk of student playoff tickets are being funded by the Enrollment Office? It seems to me they would have more pressing needs with their limited budget.
Maybe I'm way off base here....thoughts?
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:27 am
by BozoneCat
I mean, is anyone really surprised? They seem to be following the George Costanza model of decision making over there in Missoula - every decision they make is the polar opposite of the correct decision. I'm sure they don't have the self awareness to realize what a stupid thing this is given all the problems at the school. I think a team of drunk monkeys could do a better job leading that place than the current administration.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:37 am
by Cataholic
That is just crazy. I am amazed that the Missoulian (or any of liberal programs/organizations at UM) has not been critical of the move. But then again, the UM game will sell a number of advertisements and papers with a “game day” section.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:19 am
by RickRund
Ran into a lady here in CDA that was a griz grad, had lived/worked in Seattle then retired here. She really likes the hire of Bodnar... She said he is gorgeous. Really important quality on the resume
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:45 am
by catbooster
I don't know. I think of it as advertising/marketing. MSU is doing the same thing, although it's different departments doing it. Say they're giving away 2,000 tickets and the school is paying for 500 of them - $2,500? That's not much in terms of buying ads.
Re: um enrollment
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:46 am
by ilovethecats
wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:32 am
In light of all the enrollment challenges UM is experiencing, does anyone else find it interesting that a big chunk of student playoff tickets are being funded by the Enrollment Office? It seems to me they would have more pressing needs with their limited budget.
Maybe I'm way off base here....thoughts?
You're off base. By doing this they'll be able to brag about having higher attendance than the Cats. Higher attendance means they are better. Being better at football is priority number one. If you can't do it on the field, do it with attendance. It's the true measure of a championship team.
UM is doing exactly what they should be with enrollment office funds.