More Big Sky expansion (UNC vs. NDSU) talk

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Post by gtapp » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:12 am

jagur1 wrote:We don't know if the BSU thing is a sucess yet? Yes for 5 years but in 20 years? or 40 years? When I'm 80 and people are talking about BSU as an equal to Washington yes. U of Miami is the only school that I can think of that has really come from no place.

And what is sucess? U of Miami isn't a very good college that has let thugs take the University to national attention via football. I'd rather be Northwestern or Vanderbilt. ( A good academic University in a big conference that isn't any good in football)
Or how about Stanford, Michigan or USC? Three excellent academic institutions who have pretty good football teams.


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Post by jagur1 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:15 am

Stanford? If you can have both great but if you have to have one or the other.


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Post by PortlandCat » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:14 pm

As a Vandy alum I will second the notion that it is a great academic institution. I will also say that it would much more competitive in football in the Pac 10. I love the Ducks, but the SEC is tougher and deeper than the Pac 10.



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Post by WYOBISONMAN » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:59 am

I would have to say that Boise State has made a very successful jump, no doubt. However, from every school that has attempted the move to 1A, there are a lot of failures.....


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Post by theblackgecko » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:49 pm

PortlandCat, the SEC is not tougher than the Pac-!0 in football. If anyone looks at the non-conference schedules SEC teams play, one can see why the confernece always does miserable in the Sagharin ratings (few road games, and heavy on I-AA/Sun Belt creampuffs). The SEC talks tough football, but I won't believe it until an SEC team beats a BCS team on the road.
WYOBISONMAN wrote:I would have to say that Boise State has made a very successful jump, no doubt. However, from every school that has attempted the move to 1A, there are a lot of failures.....
Sucesses: UCONN, Boise State, Marshall.
Maybe: South Florida, UCF, Nevada, La. Tech, North Texas (Dominating crappy Sun Belt), Troy State.
Failures: Buffalo, Arkansas St., Idaho, La. Mo., Mid Tenn., FAU, FIU, FAMU.

The main trend is teams that move into the Sun Belt conference have a tendency to fail. A few programs have done very well, and the plurality are unspectacular programs but decent.



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Post by mquast53000 » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:55 pm

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I would not class UCONN with Boise and Marshal, one ok year doesn’t mean that they have done well. UCF with 0-11 year is looking more and more like a failure. I don’t know about La. Tech being in the middle of the road, they are closer to failure I think.


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