I gotta agree, no matter what the kid did, if it was short of assulting Kramer, Kramer was wrong. He quite obviously ran (trotted) out to the kid, got in his face (like less than 6" away) and shoved him. No matter how you look at it that is just another tool beyond yelling and screaming in the intimidation kit that Kramer has been known to use. In now way is this ever coaching or teaching in my book.TrueCat wrote:I understand that some of you think that the Big Human can do no wrong, but this is unreal. He deliberately went after a player and pushed him down...there is NO excuse for that. If you are questioning the extent of his neck spasms, you should contact the ISU trainers because they are the ones holding him out.
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That's funny, I have a friend who always says the same thing. I always chuckled but never realized the he might mean that he thought Kramer would be better suited to selling used cars than coaching.Rich K wrote:Best part of this whole thing is that it happened just in time to give us something to post about on our bye week.
I personally don't think anything should happen to Kramer, in spite of the fact that I have always thought he would be better off as a used car salesman than as a coach.
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He could partner up with Ernie, what a great pair:codecat wrote:That's funny, I have a friend who always says the same thing. I always chuckled but never realized the he might mean that he thought Kramer would be better suited to selling used cars than coaching.Rich K wrote:Best part of this whole thing is that it happened just in time to give us something to post about on our bye week.
I personally don't think anything should happen to Kramer, in spite of the fact that I have always thought he would be better off as a used car salesman than as a coach.


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The general tendency is for WRs to be punks, or for punks to become WRs. Especially the ones Kramer recruits, if you know what I'm saying.TrueCat wrote:How do you know the kid is a punk? Because he wanted to go against better competition on the practice field? The only punk I saw was a grown man running across a field to sucker-push a kid to the ground...THAT is a punk.
Of course, on the flip side, if Kramer can't work with the guy, he shouldn't have recruited him.
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Guys like Junior Adams and Scott Turnquist, right?BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:The general tendency is for WRs to be punks, or for punks to become WRs. Especially the ones Kramer recruits, if you know what I'm saying.TrueCat wrote:How do you know the kid is a punk? Because he wanted to go against better competition on the practice field? The only punk I saw was a grown man running across a field to sucker-push a kid to the ground...THAT is a punk.
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I wonder what Kramer would have done if the kid gets back up and smashes him in the face. That would have been funny to watch. Then when it's all over... I won't press charges if you won't! 
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I think he was talking about Gatewoodwbtfg wrote:Guys like Junior Adams and Scott Turnquist, right?BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:The general tendency is for WRs to be punks, or for punks to become WRs. Especially the ones Kramer recruits, if you know what I'm saying.TrueCat wrote:How do you know the kid is a punk? Because he wanted to go against better competition on the practice field? The only punk I saw was a grown man running across a field to sucker-push a kid to the ground...THAT is a punk.
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Maybe Gatewood needed a bit of Kramer's TLC.LongTimeCatFan wrote:I think he was talking about Gatewoodwbtfg wrote:Guys like Junior Adams and Scott Turnquist, right?BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:The general tendency is for WRs to be punks, or for punks to become WRs. Especially the ones Kramer recruits, if you know what I'm saying.TrueCat wrote:How do you know the kid is a punk? Because he wanted to go against better competition on the practice field? The only punk I saw was a grown man running across a field to sucker-push a kid to the ground...THAT is a punk.
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With nothing better to do I took the time to listen to coach Kramer on the big sky pod cast for this week Oct 17 and found it funny how he gave praise to his receiver corp, naming four of his players but not Graves who has as good or better stats than two that he mentioned. Gota love it.
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...I heard that he was demonstrating "bump and run" coverage and the cameraman thought it was contentious....all a big misunderstanding. Graves however didn't have his weight over the balls of his feet and fell over. Afterward he asked for the freshman back!
After the number of losses Kramer has racked up the last two years something like this was bound to happen...I wonder how many of these instances actually happened in Bozeman in 2001 before Kramer got the Bobcat team pared down to the ones that he wanted to go to war with? I heard some stories about that season...and there were a lot of Cliff's players that ended up quitting. I'm just saying....you gotta have players that will go to war not to their mother! Damn cameras!
After the number of losses Kramer has racked up the last two years something like this was bound to happen...I wonder how many of these instances actually happened in Bozeman in 2001 before Kramer got the Bobcat team pared down to the ones that he wanted to go to war with? I heard some stories about that season...and there were a lot of Cliff's players that ended up quitting. I'm just saying....you gotta have players that will go to war not to their mother! Damn cameras!
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Haha, that's funny - maybe it would pass for something like "bump and lord over".Helcat72 wrote:...I heard that he was demonstrating "bump and run" coverage and the cameraman thought it was contentious....all a big misunderstanding. Graves however didn't have his weight over the balls of his feet and fell over. Afterward he asked for the freshman back!
After the number of losses Kramer has racked up the last two years something like this was bound to happen...I wonder how many of these instances actually happened in Bozeman in 2001 before Kramer got the Bobcat team pared down to the ones that he wanted to go to war with? I heard some stories about that season...and there were a lot of Cliff's players that ended up quitting. I'm just saying....you gotta have players that will go to war not to their mother! Damn cameras!
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Re: Kramer troubles At ISU
Kramer suspended for one game by ISU ... seems like a reasonable penalty IMO.
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Agreed....Bay Area Cat wrote:Kramer suspended for one game by ISU ... seems like a reasonable penalty IMO.
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Kramer got screwed..........he should sue.
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Oh I bet Edwards's phone rang the same day it happened !!AlphaGriz1 wrote:Kramer got screwed..........he should sue.
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A one game suspension is fair based on the negative publicity.
Maybe he'll get a raise based on all the other stuff.
Maybe he'll get a raise based on all the other stuff.
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