When you look at um's total and the MSU freshman class that is amazing. um may have 7000-7200 total students?wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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Classes at MSU just started yesterday so there will be at least fifteen class days before initial numbers come out, most likely more as campuses work harder to get students to pay/confirm their bills instead of just dropping them from class. Most likely have more final numbers mid-late September from all campuses.
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If you just look at FTE on the 4-year campuses, MSU was at 12,264 and UM was at 6,176. Obviously the total headcount numbers that include part time students are much higher.RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:10 pmWhen you look at um's total and the MSU freshman class that is amazing. um may have 7000-7200 total students?wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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This just means the Board of Regents will have to take more money from MSU, to keep um afloat.
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Yes, the entire university system has that to fall back on, but I'm not sure to what extent. Aside from that, however, they can't make up for the loss of donations from alumni unless Dennis Washington's family continues to give, but it's going to take that to keep pace.
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They count high school dual enrollment students? Talk about inflating numbers.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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They count students like their stat keepers count tackles.The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:32 amThey count high school dual enrollment students? Talk about inflating numbers.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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All campuses including MSU count dual enrollment students in the headcount.The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:32 amThey count high school dual enrollment students? Talk about inflating numbers.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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Was just going to post that. Thank you for clarifying.coachouert wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:34 amAll campuses including MSU count dual enrollment students in the headcount.The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:32 amThey count high school dual enrollment students? Talk about inflating numbers.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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Inflation either way. Of course it more fun calling out just UM.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:33 amWas just going to post that. Thank you for clarifying.coachouert wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:34 amAll campuses including MSU count dual enrollment students in the headcount.The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:32 amThey count high school dual enrollment students? Talk about inflating numbers.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
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When looking at headcount: it's not inflation. Those students are taking a class at/through the respective campus just like a "typical" student that might only take one class for whatever reason that is also counted in headcount. That number is only looking at how many students are taking at least one class.The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:03 amInflation either way. Of course it more fun calling out just UM.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:33 amWas just going to post that. Thank you for clarifying.coachouert wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:34 amAll campuses including MSU count dual enrollment students in the headcount.The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:32 amThey count high school dual enrollment students? Talk about inflating numbers.wbtfg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 amIt will be interesting to see the final apples to apples numbers in a few weeks. UM usually boosts their freshmen numbers by including the 2-year community college numbers as well as their high school dual enrollment kids.Cataholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 amI was listening to Coach Vigen yesterday during a Quarterback Club call and he said MSU welcomed it largest freshman class ever! Over 4,000! I haven’t seen this anywhere else yet, but does that translate to we took away more students from UM? Any figures on UM enrollment yet?
From what I've heard, MSU has a monster freshman class and UM's class will be similar to last year, which isn't great considering their big decline they blamed on covid.
On the flip side, to keep campuses from inflating numbers, there is also the FTE (full-time equivalent) number that is looked at on each campus. These are the students that are taking a full credit load. This number is always interesting to view each year as MSU has continued to grow.
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