UM: Burning a Season for Nothing

[MrGoodKat]

I have been shocked by how many smart Griz fans are whistling past the graveyard on this coaching transition. Even skeptics like Andrew Schmidt are celebrating the move. Objectively, this is a worst case scenario for UM football.

Since the Cats ended their season, Griz fans have pinned their 2026 hopes to the retention of Ah Yat and Gillman. Those two have a collective three years of eligibility remaining-- 2 for KAY and 1 for Gillman. This coming season is going to be their last on the field together. I believe that the Griz are essentially burning that season for no gain.

Bobby Kennedy has been coaching for 35 years and has never been anything but a position coach. His staff is Bobby's staff. The 2026 Griz are just going to be the Hauck Grizzlies minus Hauck himself. It's not theoretically impossible that they could be better, but the far, far better odds is that they take a step back. All the arguments I have ever heard for getting rid of Hauck include re-setting the staff and roster building strategy-- taking one step back in order to take two forward.

This approach-- keeping everything in place except Hauck-- is taking one step back in order to... probably take another step back next year? Because Kennedy's Griz are almost certainly not better than Hauck's Griz when you consider how much roster turnover they have had and the value he added as a head coach. So they probably end up moving on from everything and truly starting over in 2027. But by that time, Ah Yat will be moving into his final season and Gillman will be gone.

I don't know if the athletic department over there bungled this by pressuring him to resign and slow playing it, or if Hauck screwed them by honestly making the decision on February 3rd, but either way this is a disaster for any fan of UM football who cares about taking full advantage of the talent that they have managed to retain.

Personally, as a Cat fan, I'm all about it. Moving to a B- version of the Hauck 2.0 Grizzlies is basically a best case scenario for me. I just didn't expect so much blind optimism from smart Griz people.

I've heard things like "I don't think they'll lose many guys during this transition." They barely have anyone left to lose! One of the players posting about how they have "the same mission at hand" and he's still committed is the Carroll safety who hasn't even played for them yet.

Or "He can infuse some youth into the coaching staff." So far, the additions at OL coach and WR coach are more really old guys playing out the string. Haslam and Hauck both said in their presser that they wanted Kennedy to take over in order to keep the staff together.

Or "They can move on from the 3-3-5 and improve that way." With what players? They already added 44 guys to the roster and they have two defensive linemen north of 265 lbs (and one of them is attempting to come off of medical retirement).

If this happened to a program like MSU, NDSU, SDSU, etc., Griz fans would be having a belly laugh over it. But it happened to them, so the happy talk is getting turned up to 11.

[wbtfg]

I get what you're saying, but I'm in the wait and see mode. I think Bobby really tied the hands of the university, as it's my understanding that assistants needed to be notified some time in Dec/Jan if their contract wasn't going to be renewed. Thus, if UM decided to go a different direction, they would be on the hook financially for Bobby's staff as well as the new coaching staff. I'm not sure they have the funds to make that work.

Add to that, UM doesn't currently have a president, and I'm not even sure who the acting president is at this point.

Here's what I think. UM will be good again next year and should be (at minimum) a quarterfinal team. It's hard to fire a coach/staff that just took a team to the quarterfinals, but that certainly doesn't meet the expectations of gris fans.

It will be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.

[MrGoodKat]

I get what you're saying, but I'm in the wait and see mode. I think Bobby really tied the hands of the university, as it's my understanding that assistants needed to be notified some time in Dec/Jan if their contract wasn't going to be renewed. Thus, if UM decided to go a different direction, they would be on the hook financially for Bobby's staff as well as the new coaching staff. I'm not sure they have the funds to make that work.

Add to that, UM doesn't currently have a president, and I'm not even sure who the acting president is at this point.

Here's what I think. UM will be good again next year and should be (at minimum) a quarterfinal team. It's hard to fire a coach/staff that just took a team to the quarterfinals, but that certainly doesn't meet the expectations of gris fans.

It will be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.

Regardless of whose fault it was that it ended up this way, it’s still the worst possible outcome.

[nanacat]

I think the majority of those who are dancing in the streets were so ready for BH to leave that any sense of reality, or what Bobby 3.0 is facing to get this year's team functional and successful, is totally lost on them.

[Catsrgrood]

Hard to argue that this is good timing in regards to what they have in Ah Yat and Gillman and their respective ages.

I agree that it’s hard to see anything but a step or two back this next year, and maybe beyond, with this coaching change. We can talk a lot of trash this year, deservedly so, but the bottom line is that they were still a good team that made it to the semi’s. Hard to see them being as good or better next year with a new coach and a lot of new faces again.
So during this potential blip on the radar, they’ll be wasting two of the better players that have worn a griz uniform.

It very well may be the right move in the long run if they got this hire right and they’re able to elevate the program to the next level. But it’s very likely not going to result in anything tangible next year or possibly the year after, the last two years of Ah Yat.

Time will tell.

[luckyirishguy25]

It's all good. They think they have found their savior and they're winning the BSC and the natty next year. Going to be real sad for them to watch all that hardware go back to Bozeman again.

[catatac]

I get what you're saying, but I'm in the wait and see mode. I think Bobby really tied the hands of the university, as it's my understanding that assistants needed to be notified some time in Dec/Jan if their contract wasn't going to be renewed. Thus, if UM decided to go a different direction, they would be on the hook financially for Bobby's staff as well as the new coaching staff. I'm not sure they have the funds to make that work.

Add to that, UM doesn't currently have a president, and I'm not even sure who the acting president is at this point.

Here's what I think. UM will be good again next year and should be (at minimum) a quarterfinal team. It's hard to fire a coach/staff that just took a team to the quarterfinals, but that certainly doesn't meet the expectations of gris fans.

It will be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.

This would surprise me looking at their schedule, but we'll see.

[tetoncat]

I get what you're saying, but I'm in the wait and see mode. I think Bobby really tied the hands of the university, as it's my understanding that assistants needed to be notified some time in Dec/Jan if their contract wasn't going to be renewed. Thus, if UM decided to go a different direction, they would be on the hook financially for Bobby's staff as well as the new coaching staff. I'm not sure they have the funds to make that work.

Add to that, UM doesn't currently have a president, and I'm not even sure who the acting president is at this point.

Here's what I think. UM will be good again next year and should be (at minimum) a quarterfinal team. It's hard to fire a coach/staff that just took a team to the quarterfinals, but that certainly doesn't meet the expectations of gris fans.

It will be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.

This would surprise me looking at their schedule, but we'll see.

They were good this year but very favorable schedule saved them from a few losses that would have put them on road 1 week earlier.

[Camo_Cat]

I get what you're saying, but I'm in the wait and see mode. I think Bobby really tied the hands of the university, as it's my understanding that assistants needed to be notified some time in Dec/Jan if their contract wasn't going to be renewed. Thus, if UM decided to go a different direction, they would be on the hook financially for Bobby's staff as well as the new coaching staff. I'm not sure they have the funds to make that work.

Add to that, UM doesn't currently have a president, and I'm not even sure who the acting president is at this point.

Here's what I think. UM will be good again next year and should be (at minimum) a quarterfinal team. It's hard to fire a coach/staff that just took a team to the quarterfinals, but that certainly doesn't meet the expectations of gris fans.

It will be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.

This would surprise me looking at their schedule, but we'll see.

In my opinion, their schedule is surprisingly easy. Seven home games, and the griz simply don't lose at home, unless it's to the defending national champion Montana State University Bobcats! Southern Utah, Drake, UT Tech, N. Colorado, Idaho, PSU, and ISU are all easy wins inside the friendly confines of Wa-dUMb. Idaho and ISU could potentially give them troubles. Road games are Oregon State (loss), Davis (loss), NAU (close, but a win), EWU (easy win), and the defending national champion Montana State University Bobcats (loss). I see them going 9-3, 8-4 at the worst.

[ECBobcat]

It's all good. They think they have found their savior and they're winning the BSC and the natty next year. Going to be real sad for them to watch all that hardware go back to Bozeman again.

The continued delusion of those fans is amazing to me. That place has won 2 national titles in 120+ years of playing football. But this new guy — a dude who has never been a head coach before, with 40+ new faces on the roster, and who appears to be keeping the 3-3-5 — he’s winning the whole thing in his first season.

Crazy things sometimes happen, but the odds are not in his favor.

[cat_stache_fever]

New coach of ESSUM gives me used car salesman vibes. He was likable enough in his presser but compared to Booby, any other human being would seem more affable.

Anyhow, as mentioned; this is booby's staff with a new guy in charge. Yes, I'm biased but i don't see this working out very well. The late change of coach is rarely, if ever, a recipe for success. The fact that the new guy has never even been HC of a high school team has got to concern grisLLy fans. When they beat UNCU by 6 at home, that gaggle of meatheads will want blood. This guy will be looking for a new job on November 22.

[Prodigal Cat]

I get what you're saying, but I'm in the wait and see mode. I think Bobby really tied the hands of the university, as it's my understanding that assistants needed to be notified some time in Dec/Jan if their contract wasn't going to be renewed. Thus, if UM decided to go a different direction, they would be on the hook financially for Bobby's staff as well as the new coaching staff. I'm not sure they have the funds to make that work.

Add to that, UM doesn't currently have a president, and I'm not even sure who the acting president is at this point.

Here's what I think. UM will be good again next year and should be (at minimum) a quarterfinal team. It's hard to fire a coach/staff that just took a team to the quarterfinals, but that certainly doesn't meet the expectations of gris fans.

It will be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.

This would surprise me looking at their schedule, but we'll see.

In my opinion, their schedule is surprisingly easy. Seven home games, and the griz simply don't lose at home, unless it's to the defending national champion Montana State University Bobcats! Southern Utah, Drake, UT Tech, N. Colorado, Idaho, PSU, and ISU are all easy wins inside the friendly confines of Wa-dUMb. Idaho and ISU could potentially give them troubles. Road games are Oregon State (loss), Davis (loss), NAU (close, but a win), EWU (easy win), and the defending national champion Montana State University Bobcats (loss). I see them going 9-3, 8-4 at the worst.

Both ISU and EWU are bringing back QBs that carved up that defense. They(dUMb D) weren't elite but they were pretty good. If they hit on the portals like they did in '25, they win. If they don't, which is very possible because they had a unprecedented rate last year, they could lose those games. I think they are in serious trouble and the fanbase doesn't realize it.

[95bcfb]

I have been shocked by how many smart Griz fans are whistling past the graveyard on this coaching transition. Even skeptics like Andrew Schmidt are celebrating the move. Objectively, this is a worst case scenario for UM football.

Since the Cats ended their season, Griz fans have pinned their 2026 hopes to the retention of Ah Yat and Gillman. Those two have a collective three years of eligibility remaining-- 2 for KAY and 1 for Gillman. This coming season is going to be their last on the field together. I believe that the Griz are essentially burning that season for no gain.

Bobby Kennedy has been coaching for 35 years and has never been anything but a position coach. His staff is Bobby's staff. The 2026 Griz are just going to be the Hauck Grizzlies minus Hauck himself. It's not theoretically impossible that they could be better, but the far, far better odds is that they take a step back. All the arguments I have ever heard for getting rid of Hauck include re-setting the staff and roster building strategy-- taking one step back in order to take two forward.

This approach-- keeping everything in place except Hauck-- is taking one step back in order to... probably take another step back next year? Because Kennedy's Griz are almost certainly not better than Hauck's Griz when you consider how much roster turnover they have had and the value he added as a head coach. So they probably end up moving on from everything and truly starting over in 2027. But by that time, Ah Yat will be moving into his final season and Gillman will be gone.

I don't know if the athletic department over there bungled this by pressuring him to resign and slow playing it, or if Hauck screwed them by honestly making the decision on February 3rd, but either way this is a disaster for any fan of UM football who cares about taking full advantage of the talent that they have managed to retain.

Personally, as a Cat fan, I'm all about it. Moving to a B- version of the Hauck 2.0 Grizzlies is basically a best case scenario for me. I just didn't expect so much blind optimism from smart Griz people.

I've heard things like "I don't think they'll lose many guys during this transition." They barely have anyone left to lose! One of the players posting about how they have "the same mission at hand" and he's still committed is the Carroll safety who hasn't even played for them yet.

Or "He can infuse some youth into the coaching staff." So far, the additions at OL coach and WR coach are more really old guys playing out the string. Haslam and Hauck both said in their presser that they wanted Kennedy to take over in order to keep the staff together.

Or "They can move on from the 3-3-5 and improve that way." With what players? They already added 44 guys to the roster and they have two defensive linemen north of 265 lbs (and one of them is attempting to come off of medical retirement).

If this happened to a program like MSU, NDSU, SDSU, etc., Griz fans would be having a belly laugh over it. But it happened to them, so the happy talk is getting turned up to 11.

I don't know anything about Kennedy so have know idea what he will be like as a coach but just because he has no experience other than position coach really isn't any difference than Choate's experience when he came to MSU he was great. The timing seems terrible, however and it is hard to imagine that he will change the recruiting culture if he keeps all the same coaches. Will be interesting to see what happens.

[MrGoodKat]

I don't know anything about Kennedy so have know idea what he will be like as a coach but just because he has no experience other than position coach really isn't any difference than Choate's experience when he came to MSU he was great. The timing seems terrible, however and it is hard to imagine that he will change the recruiting culture if he keeps all the same coaches. Will be interesting to see what happens.

It's not a totally unfair parallel, but Choate really got started in CFB coaching in 2002 as a GA with Utah State. So it took him 14 years to get to the level of head coach and he was 45 years old at the time-- on the ascent. Kennedy started as a GA 36 years ago and turns 60 this year. He's clearly much less of an ascending talent as a coach. So ultimately I don't buy the comp.

If you went back two months and said to any Griz fan "would you be happy if Hauck resigned in February and they gave the job to the WR coach and everything else stayed the same" they would have given you a resounding "NO!"

[95bcfb]

I don't know anything about Kennedy so have know idea what he will be like as a coach but just because he has no experience other than position coach really isn't any difference than Choate's experience when he came to MSU he was great. The timing seems terrible, however and it is hard to imagine that he will change the recruiting culture if he keeps all the same coaches. Will be interesting to see what happens.

It's not a totally unfair parallel, but Choate really got started in CFB coaching in 2002 as a GA with Utah State. So it took him 14 years to get to the level of head coach and he was 45 years old at the time-- on the ascent. Kennedy started as a GA 36 years ago and turns 60 this year. He's clearly much less of an ascending talent as a coach. So ultimately I don't buy the comp.

If you went back two months and said to any Griz fan "would you be happy if Hauck resigned in February and they gave the job to the WR coach and everything else stayed the same" they would have given you a resounding "NO!"

I agree with you that it is poor timing and seems like a odd hire. Again I don't know anything about him so we will see. I have been critical of UM's hiring process the last several hires that UM has made. The UM job is one of the top jobs in all of FCS so they should be able to draw some of the best talent but they haven't had a national since Hauck 1.0 and I am not even sure that was a national search. I get hiring from within if you are NDSU but I think UM could use a fresh start. Personally I love it. Keep it the same old thing or as you pointed out maybe even worse.

[onceacat]

I have been shocked by how many smart Griz fans are whistling past the graveyard on this coaching transition. Even skeptics like Andrew Schmidt are celebrating the move. Objectively, this is a worst case scenario for UM football.

Since the Cats ended their season, Griz fans have pinned their 2026 hopes to the retention of Ah Yat and Gillman. Those two have a collective three years of eligibility remaining-- 2 for KAY and 1 for Gillman. This coming season is going to be their last on the field together. I believe that the Griz are essentially burning that season for no gain.

Bobby Kennedy has been coaching for 35 years and has never been anything but a position coach. His staff is Bobby's staff. The 2026 Griz are just going to be the Hauck Grizzlies minus Hauck himself. It's not theoretically impossible that they could be better, but the far, far better odds is that they take a step back. All the arguments I have ever heard for getting rid of Hauck include re-setting the staff and roster building strategy-- taking one step back in order to take two forward.

This approach-- keeping everything in place except Hauck-- is taking one step back in order to... probably take another step back next year? Because Kennedy's Griz are almost certainly not better than Hauck's Griz when you consider how much roster turnover they have had and the value he added as a head coach. So they probably end up moving on from everything and truly starting over in 2027. But by that time, Ah Yat will be moving into his final season and Gillman will be gone.

I don't know if the athletic department over there bungled this by pressuring him to resign and slow playing it, or if Hauck screwed them by honestly making the decision on February 3rd, but either way this is a disaster for any fan of UM football who cares about taking full advantage of the talent that they have managed to retain.

Personally, as a Cat fan, I'm all about it. Moving to a B- version of the Hauck 2.0 Grizzlies is basically a best case scenario for me. I just didn't expect so much blind optimism from smart Griz people.

I've heard things like "I don't think they'll lose many guys during this transition." They barely have anyone left to lose! One of the players posting about how they have "the same mission at hand" and he's still committed is the Carroll safety who hasn't even played for them yet.

Or "He can infuse some youth into the coaching staff." So far, the additions at OL coach and WR coach are more really old guys playing out the string. Haslam and Hauck both said in their presser that they wanted Kennedy to take over in order to keep the staff together.

Or "They can move on from the 3-3-5 and improve that way." With what players? They already added 44 guys to the roster and they have two defensive linemen north of 265 lbs (and one of them is attempting to come off of medical retirement).

If this happened to a program like MSU, NDSU, SDSU, etc., Griz fans would be having a belly laugh over it. But it happened to them, so the happy talk is getting turned up to 11.

I don't know anything about Kennedy so have know idea what he will be like as a coach but just because he has no experience other than position coach really isn't any difference than Choate's experience when he came to MSU he was great. The timing seems terrible, however and it is hard to imagine that he will change the recruiting culture if he keeps all the same coaches. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Theres a lot to unpack out of that...first of all, Choate was picked out of a competitive process. MSU had several good options. Moreover, Choate had obviously been angling and getting mentorship for an HC position his entire career.

And theres a bit of a weird thing with an HC too...you can be a good HC without knowing a ton of the nuts and bolts of football. It's a CEO position. To be clear, knowing football helps, but there have been several successful head coaches without a ton of direct football knowledge. The further you get from a position coach, the less it becomes about football and the more it's about fundraising, planning, scheduling, hiring and firing, talent evaluation, communications, etc. Does Kennedy have any of that? Who knows, but it's not like he's been getting mentored for all those details. Guy was a position coach...not progressing through mentorships in all the non-football aspects of coaching.

OK, and I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this: While I think Choate was a great hire at the time, I think the jury is pretty far out on his abilities as an HC. Hes 34-41 as an HC. He was TERRIBLE (and I mean truly terrible, like Earle Solomonson terrible) in his first two seasons and almost certainly would have been fired after his 3rd season except for a miraculous comeback in Missoula that got MSU into the playoffs. Choate obviously had the gris number, but other than the Pandas, his best win in 4 seasons was at home against #18 Austin Peay.

One could make a solid case that Choate was an awful coach...except when it came to the Pandas. So I'd take the Choate example with a BIG grain of salt.

If Kennedy can go 4-0 against the Cats, I'll be a little shocked. But I'd expect him to easily have a winning record next year.

[onceacat]

I don't know anything about Kennedy so have know idea what he will be like as a coach but just because he has no experience other than position coach really isn't any difference than Choate's experience when he came to MSU he was great. The timing seems terrible, however and it is hard to imagine that he will change the recruiting culture if he keeps all the same coaches. Will be interesting to see what happens.

It's not a totally unfair parallel, but Choate really got started in CFB coaching in 2002 as a GA with Utah State. So it took him 14 years to get to the level of head coach and he was 45 years old at the time-- on the ascent. Kennedy started as a GA 36 years ago and turns 60 this year. He's clearly much less of an ascending talent as a coach. So ultimately I don't buy the comp.

If you went back two months and said to any Griz fan "would you be happy if Hauck resigned in February and they gave the job to the WR coach and everything else stayed the same" they would have given you a resounding "NO!"

This. If Hauck had been grooming him to take over, that would be one thing. But this feels shockingly random.

[Montanabob]

So is it now Robbie Kennady?

[imacat]

I have been shocked by how many smart Griz fans are whistling past the graveyard on this coaching transition. Even skeptics like Andrew Schmidt are celebrating the move. Objectively, this is a worst case scenario for UM football.

Since the Cats ended their season, Griz fans have pinned their 2026 hopes to the retention of Ah Yat and Gillman. Those two have a collective three years of eligibility remaining-- 2 for KAY and 1 for Gillman. This coming season is going to be their last on the field together. I believe that the Griz are essentially burning that season for no gain.

Bobby Kennedy has been coaching for 35 years and has never been anything but a position coach. His staff is Bobby's staff. The 2026 Griz are just going to be the Hauck Grizzlies minus Hauck himself. It's not theoretically impossible that they could be better, but the far, far better odds is that they take a step back. All the arguments I have ever heard for getting rid of Hauck include re-setting the staff and roster building strategy-- taking one step back in order to take two forward.

This approach-- keeping everything in place except Hauck-- is taking one step back in order to... probably take another step back next year? Because Kennedy's Griz are almost certainly not better than Hauck's Griz when you consider how much roster turnover they have had and the value he added as a head coach. So they probably end up moving on from everything and truly starting over in 2027. But by that time, Ah Yat will be moving into his final season and Gillman will be gone.

I don't know if the athletic department over there bungled this by pressuring him to resign and slow playing it, or if Hauck screwed them by honestly making the decision on February 3rd, but either way this is a disaster for any fan of UM football who cares about taking full advantage of the talent that they have managed to retain.

Personally, as a Cat fan, I'm all about it. Moving to a B- version of the Hauck 2.0 Grizzlies is basically a best case scenario for me. I just didn't expect so much blind optimism from smart Griz people.

I've heard things like "I don't think they'll lose many guys during this transition." They barely have anyone left to lose! One of the players posting about how they have "the same mission at hand" and he's still committed is the Carroll safety who hasn't even played for them yet.

Or "He can infuse some youth into the coaching staff." So far, the additions at OL coach and WR coach are more really old guys playing out the string. Haslam and Hauck both said in their presser that they wanted Kennedy to take over in order to keep the staff together.

Or "They can move on from the 3-3-5 and improve that way." With what players? They already added 44 guys to the roster and they have two defensive linemen north of 265 lbs (and one of them is attempting to come off of medical retirement).

If this happened to a program like MSU, NDSU, SDSU, etc., Griz fans would be having a belly laugh over it. But it happened to them, so the happy talk is getting turned up to 11.

I don't know anything about Kennedy so have know idea what he will be like as a coach but just because he has no experience other than position coach really isn't any difference than Choate's experience when he came to MSU he was great. The timing seems terrible, however and it is hard to imagine that he will change the recruiting culture if he keeps all the same coaches. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Theres a lot to unpack out of that...first of all, Choate was picked out of a competitive process. MSU had several good options. Moreover, Choate had obviously been angling and getting mentorship for an HC position his entire career.

And theres a bit of a weird thing with an HC too...you can be a good HC without knowing a ton of the nuts and bolts of football. It's a CEO position. To be clear, knowing football helps, but there have been several successful head coaches without a ton of direct football knowledge. The further you get from a position coach, the less it becomes about football and the more it's about fundraising, planning, scheduling, hiring and firing, talent evaluation, communications, etc. Does Kennedy have any of that? Who knows, but it's not like he's been getting mentored for all those details. Guy was a position coach...not progressing through mentorships in all the non-football aspects of coaching.

OK, and I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this: While I think Choate was a great hire at the time, I think the jury is pretty far out on his abilities as an HC. Hes 34-41 as an HC. He was TERRIBLE (and I mean truly terrible, like Earle Solomonson terrible) in his first two seasons and almost certainly would have been fired after his 3rd season except for a miraculous comeback in Missoula that got MSU into the playoffs. Choate obviously had the gris number, but other than the Pandas, his best win in 4 seasons was at home against #18 Austin Peay.

One could make a solid case that Choate was an awful coach...except when it came to the Pandas. So I'd take the Choate example with a BIG grain of salt.

If Kennedy can go 4-0 against the Cats, I'll be a little shocked. But I'd expect him to easily have a winning record next year.

I am solidly on the “jury is out” bandwagon on Coach Kennedy. I remember how many in the gris fan base mocked (laughed at) the Vigen hire.

[nanacat]

He seems enthusiastic and friendly, so that's a HUGE step up from Booby. He came across a little bumbling to me, but maybe that was just nerves. Vigen is so we'll spoken, clear, concise, professional, but I'm guessing the new Bobby just needs more experience at the mike. And maybe someone to help him minimize the "okays" and "rights".

Him saying he's leaving everything the same, if I were a griz fan, would be frustrating. As a Cat fan, good, cuz we can beat that everyday, and even twice. That fact leads me to believe he'll be one and done. But they also tied his hands to make very many changes due to the timing of how this all went down. He's kinda been set up to fail. But it will be interesting to see. Jury is still out for sure. And I'm curious to see if he sold it well enough to retain players or if they'll lose some.