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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by nanacat » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:47 pm

RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:36 pm
I had to congratulate a Gris poster yesterday. In my words, he was talking up the Gris pretty strongly and I commented that hopefully their 50ish transfers can gel. QB was mentioned and I commented that if they are fortunate hauck won’t run off another workable, decent QB. The poster agreed and said he would love to see a long term guy come in and take the reins some day.

I just thought of a question, curious of others take on it. Do you feel that the Gris are one good coaching hire from becoming very relevant again?
Well they just hired a new WR coach with 30 years experience. Can't find the article I read, but I think his name is Bobby Kennedy.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by RickRund » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:50 pm

nanacat wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:47 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:36 pm
I had to congratulate a Gris poster yesterday. In my words, he was talking up the Gris pretty strongly and I commented that hopefully their 50ish transfers can gel. QB was mentioned and I commented that if they are fortunate hauck won’t run off another workable, decent QB. The poster agreed and said he would love to see a long term guy come in and take the reins some day.

I just thought of a question, curious of others take on it. Do you feel that the Gris are one good coaching hire from becoming very relevant again?
Well they just hired a new WR coach with 30 years experience. Can't find the article I read, but I think his name is Bobby Kennedy.
And I am talking about mainly a head coach. Hoping bobby stays until he is 65.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by nanacat » Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:31 pm

RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:50 pm
nanacat wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:47 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:36 pm
I had to congratulate a Gris poster yesterday. In my words, he was talking up the Gris pretty strongly and I commented that hopefully their 50ish transfers can gel. QB was mentioned and I commented that if they are fortunate hauck won’t run off another workable, decent QB. The poster agreed and said he would love to see a long term guy come in and take the reins some day.

I just thought of a question, curious of others take on it. Do you feel that the Gris are one good coaching hire from becoming very relevant again?
Well they just hired a new WR coach with 30 years experience. Can't find the article I read, but I think his name is Bobby Kennedy.
And I am talking about mainly a head coach. Hoping bobby stays until he is 65.
I figured that's what you meant.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by iaafan » Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:15 pm

RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:36 pm
I had to congratulate a Gris poster yesterday. In my words, he was talking up the Gris pretty strongly and I commented that hopefully their 50ish transfers can gel. QB was mentioned and I commented that if they are fortunate hauck won’t run off another workable, decent QB. The poster agreed and said he would love to see a long term guy come in and take the reins some day.

I just thought of a question, curious of others take on it. Do you feel that the Gris are one good coaching hire from becoming very relevant again?
Yes. But the question is are they capable of that.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm

Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Montanabob » Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:42 pm

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Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.
i see a 10-1 cats going into griz 9-3 for the conference championship. NAU and idaho 3 and 4. suck state 5 or 6.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by catatac » Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:25 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:42 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm
Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.
i see a 10-1 cats going into griz 9-3 for the conference championship. NAU and idaho 3 and 4. suck state 5 or 6.
No UCD?


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Montanabob » Thu Aug 14, 2025 10:52 am

catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:25 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:42 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm
Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.
i see a 10-1 cats going into griz 9-3 for the conference championship. NAU and idaho 3 and 4. suck state 5 or 6.
No UCD?
naw, i think they are going to stumble.


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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:02 pm

Sooooo many Griz fans had an absolute conniption when the Cats introduced the legacy 41 saying we copied them. Meanwhile…



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by coloradocat » Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:57 pm

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:02 pm
Sooooo many Griz fans had an absolute conniption when the Cats introduced the legacy 41 saying we copied them. Meanwhile…

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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by iaafan » Thu Aug 21, 2025 6:17 am

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Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm
Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but this notion that has gained a lot of steam about how Bobby has discovered a new way to win championships is a little wild.

I don’t knock him for trying but I think it’s born out of necessity/desperation and not an epiphany. He lost a bunch of players and has replaced them with players from the portal. Supposedly the players last year weren’t any good and these new players are. Hauck says that sometimes attrition is good as in the bad guys left so I could go get some good guys.

This Tootell and Tatanka show feeds into it and gives it support in effect gives it relevance. Yet it doesn’t touch on the fact that those supposedly bad players (they both agree with Hauck that they had no talent last year) were all brought in by Hauck and Hauck, by his own unintentional admission, didn’t mold them into good players.



They go on to say that our coaches are mocking them by pointing out how we develop players and use the portal sparingly ala NDSU, yet we have lost six straight to them while UM beat NDSU in ‘23. They don’t dig into that um win or our loss or anything else that surrounds either team’s methodology very deeply. They probably know that if they did their theory would fall apart rapidly.

Hauck has shown that he isn’t a very good coach in his current iteration at UM. His W-L record is not great, especially in the league. His win over NDSU was during an off year for the Bison and it was delivered by a punt return specialist in Cinderella Story fashion. Other than a string of about 5-6 games in 2023 and a win over us in 2021, there’s nothing special about Hauck’s performance. That string of wins is probably more happenstance than anything devised in a laboratory.

If Hauck is some kind of savant, then he should have more to show for himself. The reality is UM wasn’t much worse last year than it has been every year. They were 5-3 BSC last year, 4-4 in 2022. 32-16 since his return with 14-0 record over Cal Poly, ISU, UNC and PSU. The 7-1 in 2023 is on its face an anomaly.

Other than the 2023 run his teams have lost to MSU, NDSU and SDSU 55-21, 49-26, 23-3, 34-11, and 35-18. They tacked on points in each of those games but one after they were for all intents and purposes over. Despite that they’re not within 17 points in any of them.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:37 am

iaafan wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 6:17 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm
Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but this notion that has gained a lot of steam about how Bobby has discovered a new way to win championships is a little wild.

I don’t knock him for trying but I think it’s born out of necessity/desperation and not an epiphany. He lost a bunch of players and has replaced them with players from the portal. Supposedly the players last year weren’t any good and these new players are. Hauck says that sometimes attrition is good as in the bad guys left so I could go get some good guys.

This Tootell and Tatanka show feeds into it and gives it support in effect gives it relevance. Yet it doesn’t touch on the fact that those supposedly bad players (they both agree with Hauck that they had no talent last year) were all brought in by Hauck and Hauck, by his own unintentional admission, didn’t mold them into good players.



They go on to say that our coaches are mocking them by pointing out how we develop players and use the portal sparingly ala NDSU, yet we have lost six straight to them while UM beat NDSU in ‘23. They don’t dig into that um win or our loss or anything else that surrounds either team’s methodology very deeply. They probably know that if they did their theory would fall apart rapidly.

Hauck has shown that he isn’t a very good coach in his current iteration at UM. His W-L record is not great, especially in the league. His win over NDSU was during an off year for the Bison and it was delivered by a punt return specialist in Cinderella Story fashion. Other than a string of about 5-6 games in 2023 and a win over us in 2021, there’s nothing special about Hauck’s performance. That string of wins is probably more happenstance than anything devised in a laboratory.

If Hauck is some kind of savant, then he should have more to show for himself. The reality is UM wasn’t much worse last year than it has been every year. They were 5-3 BSC last year, 4-4 in 2022. 32-16 since his return with 14-0 record over Cal Poly, ISU, UNC and PSU. The 7-1 in 2023 is on its face an anomaly.

Other than the 2023 run his teams have lost to MSU, NDSU and SDSU 55-21, 49-26, 23-3, 34-11, and 35-18. They tacked on points in each of those games but one after they were for all intents and purposes over. Despite that they’re not within 17 points in any of them.
I don’t want to go point by point, so I’ll just keep it short. Even if all of what you said was true, UM is still a nationally relevant FCS program. That’s not changing anytime soon.



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Re: 2025 Griz Hail Mary

Post by coloradocat » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:07 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:37 am
iaafan wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 6:17 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm
Are we trying to say the Griz aren’t very relevant? Guys…come on! Be a little realistic.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but this notion that has gained a lot of steam about how Bobby has discovered a new way to win championships is a little wild.

I don’t knock him for trying but I think it’s born out of necessity/desperation and not an epiphany. He lost a bunch of players and has replaced them with players from the portal. Supposedly the players last year weren’t any good and these new players are. Hauck says that sometimes attrition is good as in the bad guys left so I could go get some good guys.

This Tootell and Tatanka show feeds into it and gives it support in effect gives it relevance. Yet it doesn’t touch on the fact that those supposedly bad players (they both agree with Hauck that they had no talent last year) were all brought in by Hauck and Hauck, by his own unintentional admission, didn’t mold them into good players.



They go on to say that our coaches are mocking them by pointing out how we develop players and use the portal sparingly ala NDSU, yet we have lost six straight to them while UM beat NDSU in ‘23. They don’t dig into that um win or our loss or anything else that surrounds either team’s methodology very deeply. They probably know that if they did their theory would fall apart rapidly.

Hauck has shown that he isn’t a very good coach in his current iteration at UM. His W-L record is not great, especially in the league. His win over NDSU was during an off year for the Bison and it was delivered by a punt return specialist in Cinderella Story fashion. Other than a string of about 5-6 games in 2023 and a win over us in 2021, there’s nothing special about Hauck’s performance. That string of wins is probably more happenstance than anything devised in a laboratory.

If Hauck is some kind of savant, then he should have more to show for himself. The reality is UM wasn’t much worse last year than it has been every year. They were 5-3 BSC last year, 4-4 in 2022. 32-16 since his return with 14-0 record over Cal Poly, ISU, UNC and PSU. The 7-1 in 2023 is on its face an anomaly.

Other than the 2023 run his teams have lost to MSU, NDSU and SDSU 55-21, 49-26, 23-3, 34-11, and 35-18. They tacked on points in each of those games but one after they were for all intents and purposes over. Despite that they’re not within 17 points in any of them.
I don’t want to go point by point, so I’ll just keep it short. Even if all of what you said was true, UM is still a nationally relevant FCS program. That’s not changing anytime soon.
As Bobbi has proved year after year, you can be both overrated and relevant on the national landscape.


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