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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by kennethnoisewater » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:29 pm

I don't believe in canceling everything because somebody might get their feelers hurt. I don't believe in tearing down statues of people who were simply leaders at their time, doing the best they could for what they believed was right, even if we disagree now. I believe we should acknowledge our history. I don't, however, believe every piece of history needs to be celebrated though. Don't ignore the fact that the civil war happened. I don't believe a person is being overly sensitive to think that the confederate states fought for something that is deeply offensive to them. I personally don't even think a confederate flag is offensive, because I don't think everybody means offense by it. But I won't use it because I believe it is offensive to people. And because of that, I'm not going to celebrate it as my school's symbol (if I'm a Dixie St alum or prospective student).

I'd imagine if there was a school that had some sort of Al Quaeda symbol as their logo/mascot, we might not have as many people saying "I mean it's a part of our history, deal with it". I know that's not an apples to apples comparison, but I think you could make the argument pretty easily that both of those groups (Confederates and Al Quaeda) have blood on their hands in regards to some pretty egregious human rights violations.


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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by WSUWILDCAT » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 pm

oedipuss wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:10 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:00 am
I've had several responses typed up, but I think I'll just leave it at this. Dixie State is an aspiring, growing university and for the last several decades they've been slowly getting rid of their ties to the Old South. They stopped calling their yearbook the Confederate sometime in the 90s, probably around the same time they dropped the Confederate flag from school use, and they dropped their mascot and changed their nickname in the early 2000s. They realize they have a public perception problem and are smartly taking steps to correct it.
This is obviously a business move more or less. Surprised that someone compared this to Nazism before capitalism. :?
U-Tech sounds like a great re-brand. I really think Portland State missed the boat years ago when they could have renamed themselves Oregon Polytechnic and gone by "The OP". Weber State should also really look into a rebrand as they are now the only state school in D1 without Utah in their name. City-state university names are pretty bad for the most part - but county state names are just stupid.


I beg to differ. Weber State University is and always will be an awesome College name. It's who we are.


As for the Dixie State rebrand it's stupid. And that's all Im gonna say on that.


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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by wbtfg » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:04 pm

WSUWILDCAT wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 pm
oedipuss wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:10 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:00 am
I've had several responses typed up, but I think I'll just leave it at this. Dixie State is an aspiring, growing university and for the last several decades they've been slowly getting rid of their ties to the Old South. They stopped calling their yearbook the Confederate sometime in the 90s, probably around the same time they dropped the Confederate flag from school use, and they dropped their mascot and changed their nickname in the early 2000s. They realize they have a public perception problem and are smartly taking steps to correct it.
This is obviously a business move more or less. Surprised that someone compared this to Nazism before capitalism. :?
U-Tech sounds like a great re-brand. I really think Portland State missed the boat years ago when they could have renamed themselves Oregon Polytechnic and gone by "The OP". Weber State should also really look into a rebrand as they are now the only state school in D1 without Utah in their name. City-state university names are pretty bad for the most part - but county state names are just stupid.


I beg to differ. Weber State University is and always will be an awesome College name. It's who we are.


As for the Dixie State rebrand it's stupid. And that's all Im gonna say on that.
That would actually be an interesting trivia question. Name the D-1 public universities that don't include the name of their city or state.



Sam Houston and Stephen F. Austin (Do these count as the colleges aren't in Houston or Austin, Tx.?)

**Edit to add Alcorn St.**

Military Academies don't count.



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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:07 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:04 pm
WSUWILDCAT wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 pm
oedipuss wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:10 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:00 am
I've had several responses typed up, but I think I'll just leave it at this. Dixie State is an aspiring, growing university and for the last several decades they've been slowly getting rid of their ties to the Old South. They stopped calling their yearbook the Confederate sometime in the 90s, probably around the same time they dropped the Confederate flag from school use, and they dropped their mascot and changed their nickname in the early 2000s. They realize they have a public perception problem and are smartly taking steps to correct it.
This is obviously a business move more or less. Surprised that someone compared this to Nazism before capitalism. :?
U-Tech sounds like a great re-brand. I really think Portland State missed the boat years ago when they could have renamed themselves Oregon Polytechnic and gone by "The OP". Weber State should also really look into a rebrand as they are now the only state school in D1 without Utah in their name. City-state university names are pretty bad for the most part - but county state names are just stupid.


I beg to differ. Weber State University is and always will be an awesome College name. It's who we are.


As for the Dixie State rebrand it's stupid. And that's all Im gonna say on that.
That would actually be an interesting trivia question. Name the D-1 public universities that don't include the name of their city or state.



Sam Houston and Stephen F. Austin (Do these count as the colleges aren't in Houston or Austin, Tx.?)

**Edit to add Alcorn St.**

Military Academies don't count.
Yale, Creighton and Drake.



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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by wbtfg » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:18 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:07 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:04 pm
WSUWILDCAT wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 pm
oedipuss wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:10 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:00 am
I've had several responses typed up, but I think I'll just leave it at this. Dixie State is an aspiring, growing university and for the last several decades they've been slowly getting rid of their ties to the Old South. They stopped calling their yearbook the Confederate sometime in the 90s, probably around the same time they dropped the Confederate flag from school use, and they dropped their mascot and changed their nickname in the early 2000s. They realize they have a public perception problem and are smartly taking steps to correct it.
This is obviously a business move more or less. Surprised that someone compared this to Nazism before capitalism. :?
U-Tech sounds like a great re-brand. I really think Portland State missed the boat years ago when they could have renamed themselves Oregon Polytechnic and gone by "The OP". Weber State should also really look into a rebrand as they are now the only state school in D1 without Utah in their name. City-state university names are pretty bad for the most part - but county state names are just stupid.


I beg to differ. Weber State University is and always will be an awesome College name. It's who we are.


As for the Dixie State rebrand it's stupid. And that's all Im gonna say on that.
That would actually be an interesting trivia question. Name the D-1 public universities that don't include the name of their city or state.



Sam Houston and Stephen F. Austin (Do these count as the colleges aren't in Houston or Austin, Tx.?)

**Edit to add Alcorn St.**

Military Academies don't count.
Yale, Creighton and Drake.
I think those are all private



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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:32 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:18 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:07 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:04 pm
WSUWILDCAT wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 pm
oedipuss wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:10 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:00 am
I've had several responses typed up, but I think I'll just leave it at this. Dixie State is an aspiring, growing university and for the last several decades they've been slowly getting rid of their ties to the Old South. They stopped calling their yearbook the Confederate sometime in the 90s, probably around the same time they dropped the Confederate flag from school use, and they dropped their mascot and changed their nickname in the early 2000s. They realize they have a public perception problem and are smartly taking steps to correct it.
This is obviously a business move more or less. Surprised that someone compared this to Nazism before capitalism. :?
U-Tech sounds like a great re-brand. I really think Portland State missed the boat years ago when they could have renamed themselves Oregon Polytechnic and gone by "The OP". Weber State should also really look into a rebrand as they are now the only state school in D1 without Utah in their name. City-state university names are pretty bad for the most part - but county state names are just stupid.


I beg to differ. Weber State University is and always will be an awesome College name. It's who we are.


As for the Dixie State rebrand it's stupid. And that's all Im gonna say on that.
That would actually be an interesting trivia question. Name the D-1 public universities that don't include the name of their city or state.



Sam Houston and Stephen F. Austin (Do these count as the colleges aren't in Houston or Austin, Tx.?)

**Edit to add Alcorn St.**

Military Academies don't count.
Yale, Creighton and Drake.
I think those are all private
Sorry. I was just thinking of D1 schools. I was curious so did a little digging for public schools. Not too many but Rutgers, Austin Peay, Ball State, James Madison, Lamar, Marshall, Mcneese, Nichols are a couple. Most are named after politicians, educators or founders.



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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by 3-7-77 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:29 pm
Don't ignore the fact that the civil war happened.
It was the War of Northern Aggression. Several states seceded from the Union because they were being treated like colonies of the north. The south paid 87% of the taxes(tariffs)which the north used almost exclusively to benefit the north, and despite attempts by the south to get equality in taxation and expenditures, the north dominated Congress refused. When the south seceded and implemented a tariff 1/10th of that imposed by northern interests, the north saw its revenue source dry up, as Europe would use southern ports instead of Northern ports. The north then re-inforced and blockaded Ft. Sumter. The south was forced to fight. The south just wanted out of a bad marriage, and go their own way, not to take over the Union.


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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by coloradocat » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:50 pm

3-7-77 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:29 pm
Don't ignore the fact that the civil war happened.
It was the War of Northern Aggression. Several states seceded from the Union because they were being treated like colonies of the north. The south paid 87% of the taxes(tariffs)which the north used almost exclusively to benefit the north, and despite attempts by the south to get equality in taxation and expenditures, the north dominated Congress refused. When the south seceded and implemented a tariff 1/10th of that imposed by northern interests, the north saw its revenue source dry up, as Europe would use southern ports instead of Northern ports. The north then re-inforced and blockaded Ft. Sumter. The south was forced to fight. The south just wanted out of a bad marriage, and go their own way, not to take over the Union.
Ah yes, the old "the south just wanted equality" argument.

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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by 3-7-77 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:29 pm

Read.


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Re: Dixie State rebrand

Post by The Butcher » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:17 am

coloradocat wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:50 pm
3-7-77 wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:29 pm
Don't ignore the fact that the civil war happened.
It was the War of Northern Aggression. Several states seceded from the Union because they were being treated like colonies of the north. The south paid 87% of the taxes(tariffs)which the north used almost exclusively to benefit the north, and despite attempts by the south to get equality in taxation and expenditures, the north dominated Congress refused. When the south seceded and implemented a tariff 1/10th of that imposed by northern interests, the north saw its revenue source dry up, as Europe would use southern ports instead of Northern ports. The north then re-inforced and blockaded Ft. Sumter. The south was forced to fight. The south just wanted out of a bad marriage, and go their own way, not to take over the Union.
Ah yes, the old "the south just wanted equality" argument.

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It was almost like the north was enslaving the south.



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