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Post by crazycat » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:04 pm

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I'm looking for (haven't found) that thread by the guy in Billings that used some market models to forecast the BSC this year. Wondering if he had us losing to CSC or what his prediction for the early was? Yes, I'm grasping for anything still.
Crazycat, it is too difficult to predict game by game but I figured we would go L, W, L then starting winning a lot of games in a row. PSU is strong so far this year. I still believe the winner of MSU/PSU game wins the conference. If this Cat's can't get anything going in the next two games, they are in trouble this year.

http://www.freewebs.com/implicitorder/stockmarket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/implicitorder/
Here's what he said. So we're fine as long as we get things going 'this' Saturday. Someone send this to the players, so they can relax and get down to business. :)



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Post by crazycat » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:07 pm

This the part I liked:
The geometry shows the rally begins sometime in 2006 and as early as game #2—(I think a loss to UC Davis and a win the following week over Eastern Washington marks the beginning of the winning trend).
We're right on schedule baby!!! :lol: :lol: :!: :!:



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Post by HelenaCat95 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:08 pm

crazycat wrote:This the part I liked:
The geometry shows the rally begins sometime in 2006 and as early as game #2—(I think a loss to UC Davis and a win the following week over Eastern Washington marks the beginning of the winning trend).
We're right on schedule baby!!! :lol: :lol: :!: :!:
His update that he posted on his site yesterday (Sept 18 ) also mentions a coaching change at the end of the season.
:-k



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Post by crazycat » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:16 pm

HelenaCat95 wrote:
crazycat wrote:This the part I liked:
The geometry shows the rally begins sometime in 2006 and as early as game #2—(I think a loss to UC Davis and a win the following week over Eastern Washington marks the beginning of the winning trend).
We're right on schedule baby!!! :lol: :lol: :!: :!:
His update that he posted on his site yesterday (Sept 18 ) also mentions a coaching change at the end of the season.
:-k
That's new? I thought he had that on there in the beginning. Either way. That just means that after we win it all Kramer retires on top, but stays on board as vice administrator of Bobcat football and coach of the cycling team!



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Post by HelenaCat95 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:18 pm

crazycat wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:
crazycat wrote:This the part I liked:
The geometry shows the rally begins sometime in 2006 and as early as game #2—(I think a loss to UC Davis and a win the following week over Eastern Washington marks the beginning of the winning trend).
We're right on schedule baby!!! :lol: :lol: :!: :!:
His update that he posted on his site yesterday (Sept 18 ) also mentions a coaching change at the end of the season.
:-k
That's new? I thought he had that on there in the beginning. Either way. That just means that after we win it all Kramer retires on top, but stays on board as vice administrator of Bobcat football and coach of the cycling team!
Cool...I'm going out to buy one of those $190 mil Powerball tickets. I think I've got a better chance.
:wink: :D



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Post by crazycat » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:22 pm

Awww, c'mon now HC95. Ya gots ta believe!!



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Post by HelenaCat95 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:25 pm

crazycat wrote:Awww, c'mon now HC95. Ya gots ta believe!!
Yes. I believe that I will be buying us a new indoor practice facility.

:D



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Post by crazycat » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:28 pm

Oh you're tough. :lol: I can't keep up with that.



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Post by HelenaCat95 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:36 pm

crazycat wrote:Oh you're tough. :lol: I can't keep up with that.
:D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Re: Stock market predictor guy

Post by Bleedinbluengold » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:34 pm

crazycat wrote:
crazycat wrote:
I'm looking for (haven't found) that thread by the guy in Billings that used some market models to forecast the BSC this year. Wondering if he had us losing to CSC or what his prediction for the early was? Yes, I'm grasping for anything still.
Crazycat, it is too difficult to predict game by game but I figured we would go L, W, L then starting winning a lot of games in a row. PSU is strong so far this year. I still believe the winner of MSU/PSU game wins the conference. If this Cat's can't get anything going in the next two games, they are in trouble this year.

http://www.freewebs.com/implicitorder/stockmarket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/implicitorder/
Here's what he said. So we're fine as long as we get things going 'this' Saturday. Someone send this to the players, so they can relax and get down to business. :)
OK - I can't even guess how many stocks I've charted but here's my 2 cents: This guy is fascinating and the following analysis assumes his charts are correct.

ISU: It appears to me that ISU is finding a bottom in their program. Maybe this year or next, and then they will realize a good bounce off the bottom. I disagree that they are in for a serious slide, because they can't really go much lower. ISU is a long-term buy! I think they bounce off the bottom and rally to 30 on the chart over the next several years.

UNC: The trend is clearly up, but this is their first year in I-AA. They could slide a bit this year and next, but until the upward trend has broken, the trend is up, overall. Don't try to catch a falling knife, but if they have some serious trouble in the next couple of years, you could buy them at a very cheap price. After the slide, depending on how investment into the program goes, the long term upward trend could continue, or they could be in for a serious slide.

EWU: They are having trouble breaking out to new highs. If they break out - then buy them bigtime above 45. I think they'll have a short-term down-trend for a season. If they can't break out, then they will trend downward to the short term upward trend (maybe about 30).

WSU/SAC: Avoid these programs at all costs. SAC will probably fall until they move to I-A, and they can try their luck at that level. But, they could really change their mojo by moving up to I-A. I think WSU continues to slide until WSU cancels the FB program altogether. They can't compete at I-A so moving up is out of the question. I suppose they could go Div II or NAIA eventually. Any rallies by these programs will be short-lived most likely. The old blind squirrel scenario.

NAU: Flat trend between -50 and -10 means they could bounce along in that channel forever, which they have done for(almost)ever. Sell at the top, buy at the bottom until they break out in either direction. Buy or sell the appropriate break-out afterwards.

UM: This program could be in for a major long-term correction. This might coincide with the time when other I-AA programs upgrade their facilities. This program has built up so much positive sentiment that when the slide does come, nobody will believe it until it's too late (see Nasdaq market in March 2000). UM could slide for a few years and then rally again. If they rally above 0, then buy them. Otherwise, sell them into the long-term bear. A rally above 0 could coincide with a time when the program moves up to I-A, and more investment into the program is made.

PSU: Trend is up. Buy any dips until they reach 0. At that point, the program will face a major downward trend unless they make new investments into the program. This chart is very similar to UM.

AND NOW, FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT:

MSU: Almost identical to ISU. MSU is trying to find it's bottom. And boy, if it's not at the bottom, in terms of the program's success and sentiment, it's dang close. This program could easily rally back to -30 over the next few years, and then at that point, the program will have to make a new investment into the program (could coincide with a UM move to I-A). If the program stays at I-AA, the slide down should not be as far down as the program is now, and then it will rally again. Either way, the program is poised for a long-term upward trend. If I were a long term investor, I would begin buying MSU in little chunks. Little chunks, because you could end up buying more at a lower value, but the bottom is getting close, if not already found.


Strictly in terms of sentiment. MSU, ISU and PSU have very negative sentiment. UM and EWU have very positive sentiment. Typically, sentimental extremes coincide with major reversals in whatever sentimental trend there is/was.



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Post by Cledus » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:14 pm

I find this analysis fascinating. I sure hope the Cats follow the trend.

I'd love nothing more than to be wrong in my assessment of Kramer and the program.


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Post by theblackgecko » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:58 pm

So, three weeks, and three different predictions for the season? Models should be judged by their ability to predict the future, not the ability to retroactively predict the past. After week one, he was all over MSU and PSU to win everything, and the Griz to slide to a halt. Now, he's claiming MSU is at its bottom.

Look, let me wait until week 12, and I'll give everyone here a perfect prediction of the season. I'll predict the winner of every game, and every single point scored. It's meaningless.

By the way, and this is meant in all seriousness, has the guy told the people whose money he invests about this little program? Anyone who uses their professional opinion to predict (and misses miserably) seems to be under an obligation to let investors know.



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Post by grizbeer » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:23 am

With respect to the Griz I can't see any fall off next year - according to the depth chart the Griz return 9 starters on offense (lose QB/C), and 7 on defense (lose DE's, DT, and CB), but the story is really better than that for the Griz because although they lose Swogger, Berquist has been a starter, so as a Junior there shouldn't be much drop off, and in reality the Griz will in effect return 11 guys who have started on offense, and most starters on defense will be 3 year starters. I know this will be Griz homerism, but the 2007 Griz might be the best team in school history.

2008 might be worrisome, though, because the Griz will lose 5 starters on offense, including all starting wide receivers and running backs, although the offensive line should be very experienced and there is a lot of depth in the WR corps. On defense the news is worse, as the Griz lose 8 players (a DE, a DT, all linebackers, all CB, and FS). The Griz also lose their kicker. Plus if I am right that the 2007 Griz will be the best team in school history, the Griz will be breaking in a new coaching staff to go with the 14 new starters, and new coaches are always a crapshoot.



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Post by crazycat » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:06 am

Grizbeer/BlackGecko: I don't think "Stock Market Predictor Guy" was taking himself too seriously, so why are you? :lol:



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Post by theblackgecko » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:17 am

crazycat wrote:Grizbeer/BlackGecko: I don't think "Stock Market Predictor Guy" was taking himself too seriously, so why are you? :lol:
Because my stock market guy thinks the Griz will win every game :wink:



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