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I love this thumbnail. Vigen looks about ready to blow a gasket. I think this is from the Davis game, and he had ample reason to be mad that night!
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I took a peek at that cesspool AKA egriz and that well known old poster is at it again. He said he sent his Bobcat scouting report to Yale coaches and they were very appreciative and thanked him for it. You can't make this stuff up.
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I figured out who he really is.

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Too bad he didn’t give it to the gris, they clearly could have used it
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I thought everyone knew who it was....
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Hey Colter, any comment on arguably the statistically worst kicker in the conference getting named to the honorable mention team? How does something like that happen?Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:44 pmI thought everyone knew who it was....![]()
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CalgaryCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:39 pmToo bad he didn’t give it to the gris, they clearly could have used it

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Montana has made one field goal since October 1. Seems impossible that kicker would get all conference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:46 pmHey Colter, any comment on arguably the statistically worst kicker in the conference getting named to the honorable mention team? How does something like that happen?Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:44 pmI thought everyone knew who it was....![]()
Then again, I thought Montana's two best defensive performers were CB Kenzel Lawler & S Micah Harper...and neither was among the 18 Griz named all-conference.
Yet Montana State had only two offensive linemen get nods, including the best center in the conference in JT Reed getting HM. And the 'Cats highest graded OL Braden Zimmer got nothing....and the best secondary in the conference got the MVP in Caden Dowler and nothing else
Two changes I would make to the all-league voting:
1. Can't have broad strokes OL and DB positions. Need to have specific positions, particularly between center, guard and tackle on offense, safety, corner and nickel on defense. Ty Okada got screwed two years in a row because he plays NICKEL and he was not properly evaluated amongst DBs or LBs (he was nominated at both) because nickel is a SPECIFIC position. Oh, right, the one he now starts in the NFL at.
2. If you are on a team that wins 1/3 or less of your games, you are disqualified from making first-team all-conference. Period. Don't care if you have the greatest stats in the history of college football. If your team goes 3-9, your stats meant jack ******. It's like winning the scoring title when you're Gilbert Arenas or Carmelo Anthony for teams that win nothing. You can be the scoring champ. You don't get to be the MVP or first-team All-NBA. The fact that Northern Colorado and Weber State had guys who were first-team all-conference is stupid.
Last thought: The Cats got the most individual awards - Dowler, Lamson, Vigen — and that seems to always then mean less all-conference spots. It's totally weird.
Last last thought - This is a league in which Alex SIngleton was honorable mention All-Big Sky after rolling up 120 tackles and leading the conference with 16.5 tackles for loss in 2013. So take that for what it's worth....
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Ridin' with Rider - Vigen chooses to stay, Lamson gets snubbed in all-conference, Bobcats draw Yale
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Seems broke and needs fixing.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 10:24 pmMontana has made one field goal since October 1. Seems impossible that kicker would get all conference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:46 pmHey Colter, any comment on arguably the statistically worst kicker in the conference getting named to the honorable mention team? How does something like that happen?Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:44 pmI thought everyone knew who it was....![]()
Then again, I thought Montana's two best defensive performers were CB Kenzel Lawler & S Micah Harper...and neither was among the 18 Griz named all-conference.
Yet Montana State had only two offensive linemen get nods, including the best center in the conference in JT Reed getting HM. And the 'Cats highest graded OL Braden Zimmer got nothing....and the best secondary in the conference got the MVP in Caden Dowler and nothing else![]()
Two changes I would make to the all-league voting:
1. Can't have broad strokes OL and DB positions. Need to have specific positions, particularly between center, guard and tackle on offense, safety, corner and nickel on defense. Ty Okada got screwed two years in a row because he plays NICKEL and he was not properly evaluated amongst DBs or LBs (he was nominated at both) because nickel is a SPECIFIC position. Oh, right, the one he now starts in the NFL at.
2. If you are on a team that wins 1/3 or less of your games, you are disqualified from making first-team all-conference. Period. Don't care if you have the greatest stats in the history of college football. If your team goes 3-9, your stats meant jack ******. It's like winning the scoring title when you're Gilbert Arenas or Carmelo Anthony for teams that win nothing. You can be the scoring champ. You don't get to be the MVP or first-team All-NBA. The fact that Northern Colorado and Weber State had guys who were first-team all-conference is stupid.
Last thought: The Cats got the most individual awards - Dowler, Lamson, Vigen — and that seems to always then mean less all-conference spots. It's totally weird.
Last last thought - This is a league in which Alex SIngleton was honorable mention All-Big Sky after rolling up 120 tackles and leading the conference with 16.5 tackles for loss in 2013. So take that for what it's worth....
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It will never be fixed. Not in a 12-team league where teams play 8 conference games (soon to be nine). You miss 3-4 teams every single year so you are blindly voting on a third of the conference.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 10:30 pmSeems broke and needs fixing.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 10:24 pmMontana has made one field goal since October 1. Seems impossible that kicker would get all conference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:46 pmHey Colter, any comment on arguably the statistically worst kicker in the conference getting named to the honorable mention team? How does something like that happen?Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:44 pmI thought everyone knew who it was....![]()
Then again, I thought Montana's two best defensive performers were CB Kenzel Lawler & S Micah Harper...and neither was among the 18 Griz named all-conference.
Yet Montana State had only two offensive linemen get nods, including the best center in the conference in JT Reed getting HM. And the 'Cats highest graded OL Braden Zimmer got nothing....and the best secondary in the conference got the MVP in Caden Dowler and nothing else![]()
Two changes I would make to the all-league voting:
1. Can't have broad strokes OL and DB positions. Need to have specific positions, particularly between center, guard and tackle on offense, safety, corner and nickel on defense. Ty Okada got screwed two years in a row because he plays NICKEL and he was not properly evaluated amongst DBs or LBs (he was nominated at both) because nickel is a SPECIFIC position. Oh, right, the one he now starts in the NFL at.
2. If you are on a team that wins 1/3 or less of your games, you are disqualified from making first-team all-conference. Period. Don't care if you have the greatest stats in the history of college football. If your team goes 3-9, your stats meant jack ******. It's like winning the scoring title when you're Gilbert Arenas or Carmelo Anthony for teams that win nothing. You can be the scoring champ. You don't get to be the MVP or first-team All-NBA. The fact that Northern Colorado and Weber State had guys who were first-team all-conference is stupid.
Last thought: The Cats got the most individual awards - Dowler, Lamson, Vigen — and that seems to always then mean less all-conference spots. It's totally weird.
Last last thought - This is a league in which Alex SIngleton was honorable mention All-Big Sky after rolling up 120 tackles and leading the conference with 16.5 tackles for loss in 2013. So take that for what it's worth....
There's also a preconceived bias against the Montana schools. The rest of the conference, from administrators to coaches, think the Griz and the Cats have all the advantages, all the money and treat them like rich kids at a poor kids' school, even though that's not reality. They changed the rule to give the league champion and second place team the most guaranteed spots on the first and second team all conference. But it's still skewed.
Granted, of the 100 guys on the list, 34 were from Montana and Montana State. But trust me when I saw that's the maximum the league coaches would have allowed. They don't want the Griz and the Cats to win all the awards because they think it helps them in recruiting even more.
This is actually even more true in several other sports than it is in football. For example, Montana men's basketball has won the conference 8 times and been to the NCAA Tournament 11 times since 1992....and has had one league MVP....in a year they did not win the league or go to the NCAA Tournament.
I could make a list with at least 50 and probably more like 100 reasons why Montana and Montana State should get out of the Big Sky Conference. This is just a tiny part of a much bigger issue....
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Is it mandatory that each team is represented in the 1st awards? Makes more sense to me if that’s the case. It’s stupid but it would help make sense of it
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Nope, there were no first team players from Portland State. I just don't think the coaches care enough to vote accurately on this, to me it would be a much better system if media members like Colter were the voters.94VegasCat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:47 pmIs it mandatory that each team is represented in the 1st awards? Makes more sense to me if that’s the case. It’s stupid but it would help make sense of it
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At least it doesn't call attention to our best players...maybe they'll be overlooked by portal shoppers!
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Bitching about all conference snubs is pointless. The coaches vote on it, they see a lot more film than we see. We took advantage of it using the fullback slot several times.
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I can find literally nothing from Yale, media-wise. No press conferences, nothing. Anyone else having any luck? Colter, was curious if you've made any contact out there, what you're finding, will you get to interview their coach, etc? Seems odd their coach doesn't talk to the press or if so it isn't available anywhere.
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When the draw was Yale, I got really excited because I’m a nerd who loves learning about new schools and football programs. Obviously, everyone knows about Yale broadly but very interested in learning more about this team. So I fired off interview request emails on Sunday morning which is about 36 hours earlier than I usually do. I have heard nothing :/GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 02, 2025 7:19 amI can find literally nothing from Yale, media-wise. No press conferences, nothing. Anyone else having any luck? Colter, was curious if you've made any contact out there, what you're finding, will you get to interview their coach, etc? Seems odd their coach doesn't talk to the press or if so it isn't available anywhere.
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I can't even find a pre season interview on YouTube or anything. Really odd in the social media era of sports coverage to not have anything. Clearly a conscious choice on their part.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:17 amWhen the draw was Yale, I got really excited because I’m a nerd who loves learning about new schools and football programs. Obviously, everyone knows about Yale broadly but very interested in learning more about this team. So I fired off interview request emails on Sunday morning which is about 36 hours earlier than I usually do. I have heard nothing :/GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 02, 2025 7:19 amI can find literally nothing from Yale, media-wise. No press conferences, nothing. Anyone else having any luck? Colter, was curious if you've made any contact out there, what you're finding, will you get to interview their coach, etc? Seems odd their coach doesn't talk to the press or if so it isn't available anywhere.