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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Montanabob » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:17 pm

MSU01 wrote:
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Montanabob wrote:
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Any idea why the combine didn't post troy bench press, and the shuttle times? Did he not compete in those areas or?

And I'd stl rather see troy go in 3rd round and out perform expectations than go #47 and disappoint.
Troy did not do the bench press or shuttles. Looking at the official NFL results only 7 of the LBs did the bench press and 4 did the 20-yard shuttle.
Was wondering if his shoulder injury was the reason


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by MSU01 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:22 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:17 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:12 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:01 pm
Any idea why the combine didn't post troy bench press, and the shuttle times? Did he not compete in those areas or?

And I'd stl rather see troy go in 3rd round and out perform expectations than go #47 and disappoint.
Troy did not do the bench press or shuttles. Looking at the official NFL results only 7 of the LBs did the bench press and 4 did the 20-yard shuttle.
Was wondering if his shoulder injury was the reason
I'd imagine that was part of it, although around 3/4 of the LBs only did the 40, Vertical, and Broad Jump like Troy did. He certainly wasn't out of the ordinary in what he chose to participate in.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by wbtfg » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:28 pm

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I comped Troy to Simmons early last fall...sounds like I was on to something.
This guy read my mind. I’m pretty sure WR Matt Jones was one, Micah Parsons was another. I wonder who the other 2 are.
Any researchers out there want to find where Troy’s 40 time ranks all time for guys over 240 LBs? Gotta be top 10 all time, right?
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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by coochorama42 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:34 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:17 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:12 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:01 pm
Any idea why the combine didn't post troy bench press, and the shuttle times? Did he not compete in those areas or?

And I'd stl rather see troy go in 3rd round and out perform expectations than go #47 and disappoint.
Troy did not do the bench press or shuttles. Looking at the official NFL results only 7 of the LBs did the bench press and 4 did the 20-yard shuttle.
Was wondering if his shoulder injury was the reason
No. Not related to the shoulder injury at all. The combine changed their schedule this year and condensed all activities into one day. Training staff very much recommended limiting what you participated in as completing the 40 at the combine is more important than bench, which can be done at pro day just the same as the combine as it is not dependent on who is controlling the stopwatch. The big worry in combining these other activities (especially the bench) is that you will stiffen up and hurt yourself/run a slow 40.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by coochorama42 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:43 pm

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Wow...get him on your team and figure out the rest later!

Unfortunately, several followers of the Griz "anti-Troy" cult have told me he is overrated due to one bad play in the most recent Cat-Griz game (a game where he was exceptional actually other than that play) and his rawness in taking on blocks and reading plays quick enough. The thing is...he's actually incredibly underrated still. A whole lot of stuff to still be developed as a defender. Troy is so talented because he still can get by even he makes a mistake due to the athleticism. When it all comes together, he has a shot at being a Brian Urlacher or Luke Kuechly type player. I really hope the kid stays healthy because he has a chance at being the greatest football player to ever come out of Montana before it's all said and done. Every person from the state should be rooting for him. I understand not cheering on your rival during the season. But if a Montana kid makes it to the pros, what is off in your brain if you don't want that kid to succeed (I've also had Cat fans not cheer on Griz players)? I've cheered on countless numbers of Griz who have made the pros who are from this state. Enjoy the ride people!
Unfortunately for TA, 4 of the 5 highest scores all-time for LB are in this draft. Still, it looks like he should be a very, very early 3rd round pick - at worst - and much higher than that at best. Looks like Leo Chanel is the biggest winner at LB. His productivity was insane and he scored a 9.99.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by PapaG » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:27 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:01 pm
Any idea why the combine didn't post troy bench press, and the shuttle times? Did he not compete in those areas or?

And I'd stl rather see troy go in 3rd round and out perform expectations than go #47 and disappoint.
Well, that’s one way to look at it, I guess.

I’d rather Troy be drafted as high as possible and get as much money possible on his rookie deal because the NFL is a brutal game and long careers are rare. 2nd >>> 3rd in terms of rookie scale contract $$.


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Post by bcatfan1 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:33 pm

So, how much does Troy’s combine performance help guys like Hardy and Kidd? I’d imagine there will be significantly more scouts at the MSU pro day this year.


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Post by Common Cat » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:54 pm

Hoping he’s a Bengal! I’ll probably get a Troy jersey regardless what team employs him.


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Post by ND0479 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:09 pm

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What was Ezzard's time from Sam Houston? Can we officially call the SHSU homer guy from the playoff game broadcast and tell him that TA was in fact the fastest man on the field? :lol:
Ezzard ran a 4.40 unofficial today. :/



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:44 pm

ND0479 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:09 pm
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Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:17 pm
What was Ezzard's time from Sam Houston? Can we officially call the SHSU homer guy from the playoff game broadcast and tell him that TA was in fact the fastest man on the field? :lol:
Ezzard ran a 4.40 unofficial today. :/
I still love the SHSU announcers. The passion they had was fun to hear and see. Yet, they weren’t homer doucheys like the gris announcers. I know mick is dead now, but I can remember being in fifth grade hearing him say good guys during the Cat/gris and ever sense then the gris announcers have been garbage. Still are whiners and remind me of my one and half year old when I don’t turn her show on.

I should clarify I was talking about the SHSU radio guys not the espn guys.


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Post by PHAT CAT » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:37 pm

I was sitting in the beer garden at the Cat game, watching Troy's first forty live on Eric Hopkins cell phone. EHop pointed out he still owns the record for most 100 yard games in a season. That's a lot of Bobcat greatness right there. Man, what a hoop game.



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Post by profisme » Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:57 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:53 am


I comped Troy to Simmons early last fall...sounds like I was on to something.
This guy read my mind. I’m pretty sure WR Matt Jones was one, Micah Parsons was another. I wonder who the other 2 are.
Any researchers out there want to find where Troy’s 40 time ranks all time for guys over 240 LBs? Gotta be top 10 all time, right?
Vernon Davis ran a 4.39 as a TE. His combine weight was 254.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by wbtfg » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:26 pm

profisme wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:57 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:53 am


I comped Troy to Simmons early last fall...sounds like I was on to something.
This guy read my mind. I’m pretty sure WR Matt Jones was one, Micah Parsons was another. I wonder who the other 2 are.
Any researchers out there want to find where Troy’s 40 time ranks all time for guys over 240 LBs? Gotta be top 10 all time, right?
Vernon Davis ran a 4.39 as a TE. His combine weight was 254.
Holy Moses.

So we have Vernon Davis (4.39, 254) , Matt Jones (4.38, 242), Micah Parsons (4.39, 246) and one other.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:28 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:26 pm
profisme wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:57 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:53 am


I comped Troy to Simmons early last fall...sounds like I was on to something.
This guy read my mind. I’m pretty sure WR Matt Jones was one, Micah Parsons was another. I wonder who the other 2 are.
Any researchers out there want to find where Troy’s 40 time ranks all time for guys over 240 LBs? Gotta be top 10 all time, right?
Vernon Davis ran a 4.39 as a TE. His combine weight was 254.
Holy Moses.

So we have Vernon Davis (4.39, 254) , Matt Jones (4.38, 242), Micah Parsons (4.39, 246) and one other.
There was a dlineman that ran a 4.37 last night and he weighed over 260. That my friends is crazy. I think he was top five of the combine and he was a dlineman.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by wbtfg » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:31 pm

Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:28 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:26 pm
profisme wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:57 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:28 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:53 am


I comped Troy to Simmons early last fall...sounds like I was on to something.
This guy read my mind. I’m pretty sure WR Matt Jones was one, Micah Parsons was another. I wonder who the other 2 are.
Any researchers out there want to find where Troy’s 40 time ranks all time for guys over 240 LBs? Gotta be top 10 all time, right?
Vernon Davis ran a 4.39 as a TE. His combine weight was 254.
Holy Moses.

So we have Vernon Davis (4.39, 254) , Matt Jones (4.38, 242), Micah Parsons (4.39, 246) and one other.
There was a dlineman that ran a 4.37 last night and he weighed over 260. That my friends is crazy. I think he was top five of the combine and he was a dlineman.

Right! Montez sweat from Miss St. ran 4.41 at 6-6, 260.


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Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:33 pm

It was actually a 4.36, good god. He is from VTech.


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Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:40 pm

Honest question. If you have a d end on your team that runs a 4.36, do you question the position he is playing? I’m not sure a 4.36 d end translates to huge numbers and I don’t think it did in this case because I have never heard of the kid. Maybe the coaches shouldn’t have packed weight on him to be a d end versus letting him be an athlete as a receiver and out run everybody? I mean the guy is 6’5 and still runs that, can you imagine if he was 6’5 and 220 as a receiver? He would be one of the fastest receiver in the NFL and bigger than any defender.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by PapaG » Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:14 pm

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Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:40 pm
Honest question. If you have a d end on your team that runs a 4.36, do you question the position he is playing? I’m not sure a 4.36 d end translates to huge numbers and I don’t think it did in this case because I have never heard of the kid. Maybe the coaches shouldn’t have packed weight on him to be a d end versus letting him be an athlete as a receiver and out run everybody? I mean the guy is 6’5 and still runs that, can you imagine if he was 6’5 and 220 as a receiver? He would be one of the fastest receiver in the NFL and bigger than any defender.
How about as a pass-catching TE? Would be an impossible cover for a defense if he could run a broad route tree and can catch the ball.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:39 pm

PapaG wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:14 pm
Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:40 pm
Honest question. If you have a d end on your team that runs a 4.36, do you question the position he is playing? I’m not sure a 4.36 d end translates to huge numbers and I don’t think it did in this case because I have never heard of the kid. Maybe the coaches shouldn’t have packed weight on him to be a d end versus letting him be an athlete as a receiver and out run everybody? I mean the guy is 6’5 and still runs that, can you imagine if he was 6’5 and 220 as a receiver? He would be one of the fastest receiver in the NFL and bigger than any defender.
How about as a pass-catching TE? Would be an impossible cover for a defense if he could run a broad route tree and can catch the ball.
I agree and it just makes you think, most coaches honestly use players to fit their needs versus what the player may be best suited for to play in the future. I don’t blame the coaches at all, it’s their livelihood and I don’t think they owe the players to make sure they succeed at the next level.

Call it selfish, but I would probably do the same thing. We kind of saw that with Troy over the years. Tough business to be part of and decisions are always 2nd guessed.


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