How do Cats stack up against Griz

[OldGriz]

Listened to both the Tripp interview and the one with Tootell. The "Bobby plays backups to develop them" thing was mentioned in both interviews, first by Tripp, then repeated by Colter when he was talking to Tootell. I think Tootell nailed it when he commented, essentially, that if that's what Bobby is doing, his timing is really bad because playing around with your team is a September/October thing but by November you better have a team identity and the Gris really don't. With all the success and such that Bobby has had, you'd think he'd know better by now. Personally, I don't buy it, but I did find it entertaining that Tootell called it out.
The other thing that stood out to me was Tootell talking about the chip on their shoulder that the Cats have this year due to being compared to last year's team, and the concerns they wouldn't measure up. He's right of course. This team has something to prove and has a swagger that I don't really think last year's team had.
Reading between the lines in these interviews, it's pretty obvious that they all really want to say that the Cats are the better team by far, but they have to try to remain unbiased. The only real claim to fame the griz have is that 10-0 record, which is certainly admirable. However, I struggled a bit last year with the undefeated record the Cats had because there's just extra pressure to keep it. All teams are gunning for you, all eyes are on you and that record. It's been a little frustrating that the Cats haven't been getting much love this season due to the two losses, but it's actually working out fine because, as Tootell said, they're just doing whatever the heck they want to other teams.

It is hard to understand that our only FCS loss was to a healthy and very good at the time #2 ranked SDSU in double overtime, and voters are still penalizing us for that. Crazy.

Voters have difficulty seeing a 7-3 team (3-3 in conference) as “very good” regardless of which week you played them. And you lost to them. Not Crazy.

Your best win is 6-4 North Dakota. I know you are trolling, but you can’t be successful when you are so stupid.

UND is ranked higher than SDSU in the FCS writers poll, and about even with SDSU in the coaches poll. But the bigger factor is Cats lost and Griz won. What aren’t you understanding?

[tetoncat]

Listened to both the Tripp interview and the one with Tootell. The "Bobby plays backups to develop them" thing was mentioned in both interviews, first by Tripp, then repeated by Colter when he was talking to Tootell. I think Tootell nailed it when he commented, essentially, that if that's what Bobby is doing, his timing is really bad because playing around with your team is a September/October thing but by November you better have a team identity and the Gris really don't. With all the success and such that Bobby has had, you'd think he'd know better by now. Personally, I don't buy it, but I did find it entertaining that Tootell called it out.
The other thing that stood out to me was Tootell talking about the chip on their shoulder that the Cats have this year due to being compared to last year's team, and the concerns they wouldn't measure up. He's right of course. This team has something to prove and has a swagger that I don't really think last year's team had.
Reading between the lines in these interviews, it's pretty obvious that they all really want to say that the Cats are the better team by far, but they have to try to remain unbiased. The only real claim to fame the griz have is that 10-0 record, which is certainly admirable. However, I struggled a bit last year with the undefeated record the Cats had because there's just extra pressure to keep it. All teams are gunning for you, all eyes are on you and that record. It's been a little frustrating that the Cats haven't been getting much love this season due to the two losses, but it's actually working out fine because, as Tootell said, they're just doing whatever the heck they want to other teams.

It is hard to understand that our only FCS loss was to a healthy and very good at the time #2 ranked SDSU in double overtime, and voters are still penalizing us for that. Crazy.

Voters have difficulty seeing a 7-3 team (3-3 in conference) as “very good” regardless of which week you played them. And you lost to them. Not Crazy.

Mods, can we change this guys handle from OldGriz to ObtuseGriz? Cuz it's much more fitting...

If my comment was off-topic or inappropriate, I am sorry.

No your not, nice deflection

[tetoncat]

Listened to both the Tripp interview and the one with Tootell. The "Bobby plays backups to develop them" thing was mentioned in both interviews, first by Tripp, then repeated by Colter when he was talking to Tootell. I think Tootell nailed it when he commented, essentially, that if that's what Bobby is doing, his timing is really bad because playing around with your team is a September/October thing but by November you better have a team identity and the Gris really don't. With all the success and such that Bobby has had, you'd think he'd know better by now. Personally, I don't buy it, but I did find it entertaining that Tootell called it out.
The other thing that stood out to me was Tootell talking about the chip on their shoulder that the Cats have this year due to being compared to last year's team, and the concerns they wouldn't measure up. He's right of course. This team has something to prove and has a swagger that I don't really think last year's team had.
Reading between the lines in these interviews, it's pretty obvious that they all really want to say that the Cats are the better team by far, but they have to try to remain unbiased. The only real claim to fame the griz have is that 10-0 record, which is certainly admirable. However, I struggled a bit last year with the undefeated record the Cats had because there's just extra pressure to keep it. All teams are gunning for you, all eyes are on you and that record. It's been a little frustrating that the Cats haven't been getting much love this season due to the two losses, but it's actually working out fine because, as Tootell said, they're just doing whatever the heck they want to other teams.

It is hard to understand that our only FCS loss was to a healthy and very good at the time #2 ranked SDSU in double overtime, and voters are still penalizing us for that. Crazy.

Cats have a loss, are above undefeated teams from weaker conferences, below undefeated teams in top,conferences bit ahead of all but one in committee ranking. What more should fans expect

[D-Wreck]

It was neither and you know it. You're being obtuse by willfully ignoring the fact that the SDSU team MSU played in early September was fully healthy and a much stronger opponent - worthy of their lofty ranking at the time - has been decimated by injuries to key players, which has led to them stumbling the last 3 weeks. Thankfully the only people who really matter (playoff committee) seem to understand this, unlike the "slot voters" to whom you've hitched your wagon...

Hya Mule! Or dare I say... Jackass?

Hey now! Let's not slander our equine friends by associating them with him.

[RockyBearCat]

Listened to both the Tripp interview and the one with Tootell. The "Bobby plays backups to develop them" thing was mentioned in both interviews, first by Tripp, then repeated by Colter when he was talking to Tootell. I think Tootell nailed it when he commented, essentially, that if that's what Bobby is doing, his timing is really bad because playing around with your team is a September/October thing but by November you better have a team identity and the Gris really don't. With all the success and such that Bobby has had, you'd think he'd know better by now. Personally, I don't buy it, but I did find it entertaining that Tootell called it out.
The other thing that stood out to me was Tootell talking about the chip on their shoulder that the Cats have this year due to being compared to last year's team, and the concerns they wouldn't measure up. He's right of course. This team has something to prove and has a swagger that I don't really think last year's team had.
Reading between the lines in these interviews, it's pretty obvious that they all really want to say that the Cats are the better team by far, but they have to try to remain unbiased. The only real claim to fame the griz have is that 10-0 record, which is certainly admirable. However, I struggled a bit last year with the undefeated record the Cats had because there's just extra pressure to keep it. All teams are gunning for you, all eyes are on you and that record. It's been a little frustrating that the Cats haven't been getting much love this season due to the two losses, but it's actually working out fine because, as Tootell said, they're just doing whatever the heck they want to other teams.

It is hard to understand that our only FCS loss was to a healthy and very good at the time #2 ranked SDSU in double overtime, and voters are still penalizing us for that. Crazy.

Voters have difficulty seeing a 7-3 team (3-3 in conference) as “very good” regardless of which week you played them. And you lost to them. Not Crazy.

Your best win is 6-4 North Dakota. I know you are trolling, but you can’t be successful when you are so stupid.

UND is ranked higher than SDSU in the FCS writers poll, and about even with SDSU in the coaches poll. But the bigger factor is Cats lost and Griz won. What aren’t you understanding?

Seems you should be arguing that the rankings should be

NDSU 10-0 pt diff +279
Lehigh 10-0 pt diff +209
Tenn Tech 9-0 pt diff +234
gris 9-0 pt diff +140
harvard 8-0 pt diff +228

kind of funny that of all the undefeated teams, gris have the worst point differential by 69 points to the 2nd worst.

[OldGriz]

Ah, yes, the old mythical game of “point differential.” You’d have to believe the Ohio Valley Conference or the Patriot League are stronger than the Big Sky Conference to believe Tenn Tech or Lehigh should be ranked that high. Are you such a believer? I’m not. The “point differential” debate is for guys whose teams have lost games. It’s what Tom was getting at in the thread titled “stats are for losers.”

[RockyBearCat]

wait, wait, wait The only thing that matters is wins. SOS doesn't matter you have said over and over. So Lehigh HAS to be higher than gris 10 wins to 9. Tenn Tech has same number of wins. Take SOS out and you need something to rate those teams on. Since PT DIFF isn't a STAT but is actual scores, I figure it would fit your narrative. By your overall argument, if a team could beat Liberty 10 times, they should be #1.

[OldGriz]

wait, wait, wait The only thing that matters is wins. SOS doesn't matter you have said over and over. So Lehigh HAS to be higher than gris 10 wins to 9. Tenn Tech has same number of wins. Take SOS out and you need something to rate those teams on. Since PT DIFF isn't a STAT but is actual scores, I figure it would fit your narrative. By your overall argument, if a team could beat Liberty 10 times, they should be #1.

Nope, I have not said over and over that SOS doesn’t matter. So that’s why Lehigh should not be (and isn’t) ranked higher. But what I have said is that both the Griz and the Cats have played their share of cream puffs this season (and, no, SDSU is not a cream puff).

[Cataholic]

OldJizz loses credibility every time he posts. He keeps talking in circles trying to justify a meaningless ranking. It is hilarious! Panda nation has to shaking their heads.

[ClowderUp]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

[NewEra]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

[OldGriz]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

[TomCat88]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

I assume this is for last week’s games, not the season.

[nanacat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

And shut them out. You always seem to forget that part. How many teams did the griz shut out this year? What's the point differential between the Cats and the Griz for common opponents? You're schtick is getting tired old man.

[CPACAT]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

And shut them out. You always seem to forget that part. How many teams did the griz shut out this year? What's the point differential between the Cats and the Griz for common opponents? You're schtick is getting tired old man.

The Cats scored on all 3 first half possessions. One punt one interception and a kneel to end the game. Not a lot of points but very efficient.

[91catAlum]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Vigen took 1 game to try this Hauck strategy of pulling all the starters in the 1st quarter. Decided not to stick with it after Mercyhurst.

[onceacat]

Listened to both the Tripp interview and the one with Tootell. The "Bobby plays backups to develop them" thing was mentioned in both interviews, first by Tripp, then repeated by Colter when he was talking to Tootell. I think Tootell nailed it when he commented, essentially, that if that's what Bobby is doing, his timing is really bad because playing around with your team is a September/October thing but by November you better have a team identity and the Gris really don't. With all the success and such that Bobby has had, you'd think he'd know better by now. Personally, I don't buy it, but I did find it entertaining that Tootell called it out.
The other thing that stood out to me was Tootell talking about the chip on their shoulder that the Cats have this year due to being compared to last year's team, and the concerns they wouldn't measure up. He's right of course. This team has something to prove and has a swagger that I don't really think last year's team had.
Reading between the lines in these interviews, it's pretty obvious that they all really want to say that the Cats are the better team by far, but they have to try to remain unbiased. The only real claim to fame the griz have is that 10-0 record, which is certainly admirable. However, I struggled a bit last year with the undefeated record the Cats had because there's just extra pressure to keep it. All teams are gunning for you, all eyes are on you and that record. It's been a little frustrating that the Cats haven't been getting much love this season due to the two losses, but it's actually working out fine because, as Tootell said, they're just doing whatever the heck they want to other teams.

It is hard to understand that our only FCS loss was to a healthy and very good at the time #2 ranked SDSU in double overtime, and voters are still penalizing us for that. Crazy.

Cats have a loss, are above undefeated teams from weaker conferences, below undefeated teams in top,conferences bit ahead of all but one in committee ranking. What more should fans expect

You have watched the Cats utterly pulverize teams that gave the Pandas a ton of trouble. Most of the writers & coaches voting haven't watched the gris close calls, nor have they watched the Cats put in scrubs for the 4th quarter to finish off the teams that the gris could barely beat.

The Pandas are known from reputation to be a good program, they went to the chipper 2 years ago. They are 10-0. The Cats started the season 0-2, so unless you watched the gris struggle with the likes of the 3rd string Eagles, you wouldn't actually know that there a massive gap between the talent of the Cats and the Pandas.

[onceacat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

[OldGriz]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

[nanacat]

The gris have never seen an offense like the Cats.

Or a defense FTG

The offense that hung 17 points on Mercyhurst.

Whats the point differential on MSU and UMs common opponents?

I can't remember...you should look it up for us on the Big Sky Conference Stats page.

If you think it matters, you can look it up and report back to us. When was the last time the point differential between common opponents ever meant anything?

You're so lame. You should just go away. You have nothing of value to offer to this forum.