Choate to interview for Boise State job

[bobcat99]

I agree with everyone in that I hope, for MSU football, he doesn't go. I have no big complaints if he does, you can't blame him, and I think we'd be in great shape with Kane Ioane as the head coach. I don't think his son is a factor in the decision as he's capable of playing at Boise State or playing at MSU without his dad on the sidelines.

Just remember this when a player decides to jump to another school and a coach (or a fan) starts whining about it. Coaches do the same thing.

I think his biggest accomplishments are 1) building a strong program; 2) making the semi-finals; 3) beating UM all four times. His best game was defeating then #3 UM 48-14 without Troy Andersen.

I don't think he has a great track record. Take away the four Griz wins and he's just 24-22 overall. His highest BSC finish is a tie for 3rd last year. 4th, 6th and 9th prior to that.

Once the people evaluating him get past the bluster of his former players and interviewing ability, and the dust settles, they'll be left with his on-field performance. It's good, but not great. They'll also need to look at the success, or lack thereof, of FCS coaches that have gotten FBS jobs.

Doesn’t have a great track record? On field performance is just good?

Do you recall how bad we were in his first year? How bad the talent was? How little depth there was?

We have never had a HC as good as Choate. Never. I’m dead serious too. The progress that he has made on the field, and off, has been huge for us. I could give a rip what his record is. Larry Coker at Miami had a phenomenal record. Crappy HC. Quite a few other examples like that.

So how has Choate been as a HC? Well, where are we compared to when he first got here? We are far better in all phases. He’s definitely been a great HC here.

Finally, why take his record and take out the Griz games? Lol. “Take out all his wins and he’s lost all his games!” Well buddy, if my Aunt had nuts, she’d be my uncle.

So if we lose coach Choate do we need to add another statue outside the stadium to keep Sonny in his place?

When we lose Choate in a couple of seasons from now we may have to put up another statue...I will give you that.

Holland has the better legacy. And I’ll defer to the elderly if they want to say Holland was better. So how’s about this? Choate is the best coach we’ve had in recent history, by a lot.

I agree that Choate is the best in recent history, but without the hyperbole.

Cliff Hysell got the program moving again after it was in a real serious, disastrous hole. Unfortunately he got sick and things slipped back. Kramer, too, had to dig the team out of a huge hole. They went from 0-11 to the playoffs in his third year. Won three league titles in four years. Ash had to bring things back from oblivion, too. He had an APR mess, a team with a huge off field problem, but he won three straight league titles. The program was not in same kind of trouble for him as it was those three.

So keep Choate's four wins vs. the Griz. That makes him 28-22. Throw out the first two years and he's 19-9. Granted there's probably a FBS loss in there, I don't recall. These aren't great records. No titles other than State Champs, which is pretty freaking awesome I must say. Best league finish is third. But these Griz teams aren't the Griz teams that Hysell, Kramer and Ash had to face. Choate is hot right now and this opening came up at the right time for him, but I don't see BSU taking him based on those marks. That's suicide for everyone on the selection committee, if he doesn't work out. If you take almost anyone else on the list, you can at least point to their record coming in. You can't do that with Choate. It's like bringing in a relief pitcher. Big lefty slugger coming up to face your righty, you don't go to the bullpen and bring in another righty, you get the lefty. Bring the righty and lose you get ripped. Bring the lefty in and you went by the book and are let off the hook.

This isn't me saying Choate isn't the best coach of the bunch. I have no idea on that. I'm just thinking as someone on the committee, especially the AD. They look at this stuff and think of what happens down the road.

There was no hyperbole.

I’m going to keep this short and simple. Watching you, who typically overstates anything blue and gold, try to gloss down what Choate has done here because he might leave is both funny and embarrassing. It’s just like when fans do the whole “oh we didn’t want that recruit anyways” bit after they commit elsewhere.

As far as the record, an AD is going to care a lot more about the record trend than the overall record. An AD is going to value HC experience.

But hey, at least now we know what you really think about what Choate has done here. “Not that great”.

[rivercat]

I agree with everyone in that I hope, for MSU football, he doesn't go. I have no big complaints if he does, you can't blame him, and I think we'd be in great shape with Kane Ioane as the head coach. I don't think his son is a factor in the decision as he's capable of playing at Boise State or playing at MSU without his dad on the sidelines.

Just remember this when a player decides to jump to another school and a coach (or a fan) starts whining about it. Coaches do the same thing.

I think his biggest accomplishments are 1) building a strong program; 2) making the semi-finals; 3) beating UM all four times. His best game was defeating then #3 UM 48-14 without Troy Andersen.

I don't think he has a great track record. Take away the four Griz wins and he's just 24-22 overall. His highest BSC finish is a tie for 3rd last year. 4th, 6th and 9th prior to that.

Once the people evaluating him get past the bluster of his former players and interviewing ability, and the dust settles, they'll be left with his on-field performance. It's good, but not great. They'll also need to look at the success, or lack thereof, of FCS coaches that have gotten FBS jobs.

Doesn’t have a great track record? On field performance is just good?

Do you recall how bad we were in his first year? How bad the talent was? How little depth there was?

We have never had a HC as good as Choate. Never. I’m dead serious too. The progress that he has made on the field, and off, has been huge for us. I could give a rip what his record is. Larry Coker at Miami had a phenomenal record. Crappy HC. Quite a few other examples like that.

So how has Choate been as a HC? Well, where are we compared to when he first got here? We are far better in all phases. He’s definitely been a great HC here.

Finally, why take his record and take out the Griz games? Lol. “Take out all his wins and he’s lost all his games!” Well buddy, if my Aunt had nuts, she’d be my uncle.

So if we lose coach Choate do we need to add another statue outside the stadium to keep Sonny in his place?

When we lose Choate in a couple of seasons from now we may have to put up another statue...I will give you that.

Holland has the better legacy. And I’ll defer to the elderly if they want to say Holland was better. So how’s about this? Choate is the best coach we’ve had in recent history, by a lot.

I agree that Choate is the best in recent history, but without the hyperbole.

Cliff Hysell got the program moving again after it was in a real serious, disastrous hole. Unfortunately he got sick and things slipped back. Kramer, too, had to dig the team out of a huge hole. They went from 0-11 to the playoffs in his third year. Won three league titles in four years. Ash had to bring things back from oblivion, too. He had an APR mess, a team with a huge off field problem, but he won three straight league titles. The program was not in same kind of trouble for him as it was those three.

So keep Choate's four wins vs. the Griz. That makes him 28-22. Throw out the first two years and he's 19-9. Granted there's probably a FBS loss in there, I don't recall. These aren't great records. No titles other than State Champs, which is pretty freaking awesome I must say. Best league finish is third. But these Griz teams aren't the Griz teams that Hysell, Kramer and Ash had to face. Choate is hot right now and this opening came up at the right time for him, but I don't see BSU taking him based on those marks. That's suicide for everyone on the selection committee, if he doesn't work out. If you take almost anyone else on the list, you can at least point to their record coming in. You can't do that with Choate. It's like bringing in a relief pitcher. Big lefty slugger coming up to face your righty, you don't go to the bullpen and bring in another righty, you get the lefty. Bring the righty and lose you get ripped. Bring the lefty in and you went by the book and are let off the hook.

This isn't me saying Choate isn't the best coach of the bunch. I have no idea on that. I'm just thinking as someone on the committee, especially the AD. They look at this stuff and think of what happens down the road.

There was no hyperbole.

I’m going to keep this short and simple. Watching you, who typically overstates anything blue and gold, try to gloss down what Choate has done here because he might leave is both funny and embarrassing. It’s just like when fans do the whole “oh we didn’t want that recruit anyways” bit after they commit elsewhere.

As far as the record, an AD is going to care a lot more about the record trend than the overall record. An AD is going to value HC experience.

But hey, at least now we know what you really think about what Choate has done here. “Not that great”.

Unless I'm mistaken, they are currently without an AD. Don't know how this affects the process except no one's job will be on the line with this coaching hire.

[iaafan]

I agree with everyone in that I hope, for MSU football, he doesn't go. I have no big complaints if he does, you can't blame him, and I think we'd be in great shape with Kane Ioane as the head coach. I don't think his son is a factor in the decision as he's capable of playing at Boise State or playing at MSU without his dad on the sidelines.

Just remember this when a player decides to jump to another school and a coach (or a fan) starts whining about it. Coaches do the same thing.

I think his biggest accomplishments are 1) building a strong program; 2) making the semi-finals; 3) beating UM all four times. His best game was defeating then #3 UM 48-14 without Troy Andersen.

I don't think he has a great track record. Take away the four Griz wins and he's just 24-22 overall. His highest BSC finish is a tie for 3rd last year. 4th, 6th and 9th prior to that.

Once the people evaluating him get past the bluster of his former players and interviewing ability, and the dust settles, they'll be left with his on-field performance. It's good, but not great. They'll also need to look at the success, or lack thereof, of FCS coaches that have gotten FBS jobs.

Doesn’t have a great track record? On field performance is just good?

Do you recall how bad we were in his first year? How bad the talent was? How little depth there was?

We have never had a HC as good as Choate. Never. I’m dead serious too. The progress that he has made on the field, and off, has been huge for us. I could give a rip what his record is. Larry Coker at Miami had a phenomenal record. Crappy HC. Quite a few other examples like that.

So how has Choate been as a HC? Well, where are we compared to when he first got here? We are far better in all phases. He’s definitely been a great HC here.

Finally, why take his record and take out the Griz games? Lol. “Take out all his wins and he’s lost all his games!” Well buddy, if my Aunt had nuts, she’d be my uncle.

So if we lose coach Choate do we need to add another statue outside the stadium to keep Sonny in his place?

When we lose Choate in a couple of seasons from now we may have to put up another statue...I will give you that.

Holland has the better legacy. And I’ll defer to the elderly if they want to say Holland was better. So how’s about this? Choate is the best coach we’ve had in recent history, by a lot.

I agree that Choate is the best in recent history, but without the hyperbole.

Cliff Hysell got the program moving again after it was in a real serious, disastrous hole. Unfortunately he got sick and things slipped back. Kramer, too, had to dig the team out of a huge hole. They went from 0-11 to the playoffs in his third year. Won three league titles in four years. Ash had to bring things back from oblivion, too. He had an APR mess, a team with a huge off field problem, but he won three straight league titles. The program was not in same kind of trouble for him as it was those three.

So keep Choate's four wins vs. the Griz. That makes him 28-22. Throw out the first two years and he's 19-9. Granted there's probably a FBS loss in there, I don't recall. These aren't great records. No titles other than State Champs, which is pretty freaking awesome I must say. Best league finish is third. But these Griz teams aren't the Griz teams that Hysell, Kramer and Ash had to face. Choate is hot right now and this opening came up at the right time for him, but I don't see BSU taking him based on those marks. That's suicide for everyone on the selection committee, if he doesn't work out. If you take almost anyone else on the list, you can at least point to their record coming in. You can't do that with Choate. It's like bringing in a relief pitcher. Big lefty slugger coming up to face your righty, you don't go to the bullpen and bring in another righty, you get the lefty. Bring the righty and lose you get ripped. Bring the lefty in and you went by the book and are let off the hook.

This isn't me saying Choate isn't the best coach of the bunch. I have no idea on that. I'm just thinking as someone on the committee, especially the AD. They look at this stuff and think of what happens down the road.

There was no hyperbole.

I’m going to keep this short and simple. Watching you, who typically overstates anything blue and gold, try to gloss down what Choate has done here because he might leave is both funny and embarrassing. It’s just like when fans do the whole “oh we didn’t want that recruit anyways” bit after they commit elsewhere.

As far as the record, an AD is going to care a lot more about the record trend than the overall record. An AD is going to value HC experience.

But hey, at least now we know what you really think about what Choate has done here. “Not that great”.

Kind of like how I glossed down Hysell, Kramer and Ash? Yeah, got it. Sorry the facts of this bother you, oh wonderful mind reader.

I save “great” for the Lombardis and Sabans of the world. Are you comparing what Choate has done here to them? He’s done good. Calling it great is hyperbole unless you have some qualifiers for that statement. Like, Choate is great compared to the last four coaches we’ve had. Is that what you’re saying? Or are you putting him up there with the true coaching greats of the game?

[catatac]

If his son graduated college this spring, maybe. I don't think he is done here. He still has at least two more years here, if not 5 more. And he wants a nati.
Say no to this....

That guy is an idiot... # ChoateMentum

JK. But boots on the ground here in Boise. You all will be happy to hear, choates name has cooled off. Somehow Dirk Koetter and Jim Mora have snuck in to the 3 & 4 spot behind Kellen Moore & Andy Avalos

So Choate is currently in 5th place... according to a bunch of fans on message boards? Just kidding you Chris, I really hope you're right, but whoever interviews Choate will have no choice to seriously consider him for the position... so I'll be holding my breath.

[PapaG]

I have to believe Boise State is giving Choate an interview as a courtesy to raise his profile because hiring an FCS coach who has never even won his own conference, let alone a national title, is a huge risk for a program with Boise’s history of success, especially with the uncertainty of the future landscape of college football. With names like Koetter and Mora Jr. in the mix and no AD at present, those are safe choices. I’ll be shocked if Choate is hired as head coach, but he could get a big raise and be the OC in Boise and also head coach-in-waiting.

[wbtfg]

I have to believe Boise State is giving Choate an interview as a courtesy to raise his profile because hiring an FCS coach who has never even won his own conference, let alone a national title, is a huge risk for a program with Boise’s history of success, especially with the uncertainty of the future landscape of college football. With names like Koetter and Mora Jr. in the mix and no AD at present, those are safe choices. I’ll be shocked if Choate is hired as head coach, but he could get a big raise and be the OC in Boise and also head coach-in-waiting.

I don’t think Choate has any desire to be a coordinator. And if he did he certainly wouldn’t be an OC. His specialty is defense.

Hard to know what Boise is looking for in a coach. Do they want an up and comer or someone with more experience?

I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they went with the up and comer.

[GoCats18]

This is always the worst part of success. That said, some coaches are better off at certain levels. I know Choate would do well at Boise State, but will he have the success that that program is used to? Who knows. Unfortunately most of the Big Sky coaches that have moved up, have not had much success as a head coach. Then you start back over again. Please, stay where you are. Show us this program is capable of winning a National Championship. Finish the Grind that you started. I just think Choate is the perfect fit for our program.

[PapaG]

I have to believe Boise State is giving Choate an interview as a courtesy to raise his profile because hiring an FCS coach who has never even won his own conference, let alone a national title, is a huge risk for a program with Boise’s history of success, especially with the uncertainty of the future landscape of college football. With names like Koetter and Mora Jr. in the mix and no AD at present, those are safe choices. I’ll be shocked if Choate is hired as head coach, but he could get a big raise and be the OC in Boise and also head coach-in-waiting.

I don’t think Choate has any desire to be a coordinator. And if he did he certainly wouldn’t be an OC. His specialty is defense.

Hard to know what Boise is looking for in a coach. Do they want an up and comer or someone with more experience?

I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they went with the up and comer.

Total brain cramp on DC. I’m not saying Choate wouldn’t be a good fit at Boise. I am saying hiring him would be a bold move and especially without an AD in place.

[Bocephus]

When/if he does leave let’s at least learn something from NDSU and hire from within. Their hires are never flashy, but they keep the culture and momentum going. Did anybody outside of North Dakota even know who Entz is? Now he leads the top program.

It would be hard to imagine Bobcat Football without Choate right now.

[Montanabob]

I think BSU is in termoil right now and I think taking that head coach job would be a mistake for Choate. They aren't going to give him 2 or 3 years to improve the culture, he will be a one and done if he does not win the MWC.

[superbobcat]

Hire Koettter or Mora, let them screw it up, because they will, and in 4 or 5years Choate will be overly qualified to get the job! How is that for Christmas confidence?

[utucats]

Obviously I hope Choate doesn’t get the job because we need him here. Anyone who doesn’t recognize the value in what he has accomplished here doesn’t know what they are looking at. They wouldn’t be interviewing him unless they were impressed by his resume as a HC at MSU.
I think he’ll get one of these jobs one day but we need it to be later cause we need an in house guy who is ready to take over and I don’t think we are there yet.

[Cataholic]

I agree with everyone in that I hope, for MSU football, he doesn't go. I have no big complaints if he does, you can't blame him, and I think we'd be in great shape with Kane Ioane as the head coach. I don't think his son is a factor in the decision as he's capable of playing at Boise State or playing at MSU without his dad on the sidelines.

Just remember this when a player decides to jump to another school and a coach (or a fan) starts whining about it. Coaches do the same thing.

I think his biggest accomplishments are 1) building a strong program; 2) making the semi-finals; 3) beating UM all four times. His best game was defeating then #3 UM 48-14 without Troy Andersen.

I don't think he has a great track record. Take away the four Griz wins and he's just 24-22 overall. His highest BSC finish is a tie for 3rd last year. 4th, 6th and 9th prior to that.

Once the people evaluating him get past the bluster of his former players and interviewing ability, and the dust settles, they'll be left with his on-field performance. It's good, but not great. They'll also need to look at the success, or lack thereof, of FCS coaches that have gotten FBS jobs.

Doesn’t have a great track record? On field performance is just good?

Do you recall how bad we were in his first year? How bad the talent was? How little depth there was?

We have never had a HC as good as Choate. Never. I’m dead serious too. The progress that he has made on the field, and off, has been huge for us. I could give a rip what his record is. Larry Coker at Miami had a phenomenal record. Crappy HC. Quite a few other examples like that.

So how has Choate been as a HC? Well, where are we compared to when he first got here? We are far better in all phases. He’s definitely been a great HC here.

Finally, why take his record and take out the Griz games? Lol. “Take out all his wins and he’s lost all his games!” Well buddy, if my Aunt had nuts, she’d be my uncle.

So if we lose coach Choate do we need to add another statue outside the stadium to keep Sonny in his place?

When we lose Choate in a couple of seasons from now we may have to put up another statue...I will give you that.

Holland has the better legacy. And I’ll defer to the elderly if they want to say Holland was better. So how’s about this? Choate is the best coach we’ve had in recent history, by a lot.

I agree that Choate is the best in recent history, but without the hyperbole.

Cliff Hysell got the program moving again after it was in a real serious, disastrous hole. Unfortunately he got sick and things slipped back. Kramer, too, had to dig the team out of a huge hole. They went from 0-11 to the playoffs in his third year. Won three league titles in four years. Ash had to bring things back from oblivion, too. He had an APR mess, a team with a huge off field problem, but he won three straight league titles. The program was not in same kind of trouble for him as it was those three.

So keep Choate's four wins vs. the Griz. That makes him 28-22. Throw out the first two years and he's 19-9. Granted there's probably a FBS loss in there, I don't recall. These aren't great records. No titles other than State Champs, which is pretty freaking awesome I must say. Best league finish is third. But these Griz teams aren't the Griz teams that Hysell, Kramer and Ash had to face. Choate is hot right now and this opening came up at the right time for him, but I don't see BSU taking him based on those marks. That's suicide for everyone on the selection committee, if he doesn't work out. If you take almost anyone else on the list, you can at least point to their record coming in. You can't do that with Choate. It's like bringing in a relief pitcher. Big lefty slugger coming up to face your righty, you don't go to the bullpen and bring in another righty, you get the lefty. Bring the righty and lose you get ripped. Bring the lefty in and you went by the book and are let off the hook.

This isn't me saying Choate isn't the best coach of the bunch. I have no idea on that. I'm just thinking as someone on the committee, especially the AD. They look at this stuff and think of what happens down the road.

There was no hyperbole.

I’m going to keep this short and simple. Watching you, who typically overstates anything blue and gold, try to gloss down what Choate has done here because he might leave is both funny and embarrassing. It’s just like when fans do the whole “oh we didn’t want that recruit anyways” bit after they commit elsewhere.

As far as the record, an AD is going to care a lot more about the record trend than the overall record. An AD is going to value HC experience.

But hey, at least now we know what you really think about what Choate has done here. “Not that great”.

Kind of like how I glossed down Hysell, Kramer and Ash? Yeah, got it. Sorry the facts of this bother you, oh wonderful mind reader.

I save “great” for the Lombardis and Sabans of the world. Are you comparing what Choate has done here to them? He’s done good. Calling it great is hyperbole unless you have some qualifiers for that statement. Like, Choate is great compared to the last four coaches we’ve had. Is that what you’re saying? Or are you putting him up there with the true coaching greats of the game?

Do you just argue for the sake of it?? You need to step away for awhile. My gosh....

[rivercat]

I think BSU is in termoil right now and I think taking that head coach job would be a mistake for Choate. They aren't going to give him 2 or 3 years to improve the culture, he will be a one and done if he does not will the MWC.

I did some digging and have a similar view. Financial problems, no AD, secretly plotting an exit from the MWC to the AAC for football and someplace else for other sports. If it weren't for a very successful football team, BSU would be middle of the pack regional university.

[94VegasCat]

I love what Coach Choate has built and know it will only improve if he isn’t hired away. If he leaves, I will cry.

[TomCat88]

I agree with everyone in that I hope, for MSU football, he doesn't go. I have no big complaints if he does, you can't blame him, and I think we'd be in great shape with Kane Ioane as the head coach. I don't think his son is a factor in the decision as he's capable of playing at Boise State or playing at MSU without his dad on the sidelines.

Just remember this when a player decides to jump to another school and a coach (or a fan) starts whining about it. Coaches do the same thing.

I think his biggest accomplishments are 1) building a strong program; 2) making the semi-finals; 3) beating UM all four times. His best game was defeating then #3 UM 48-14 without Troy Andersen.

I don't think he has a great track record. Take away the four Griz wins and he's just 24-22 overall. His highest BSC finish is a tie for 3rd last year. 4th, 6th and 9th prior to that.

Once the people evaluating him get past the bluster of his former players and interviewing ability, and the dust settles, they'll be left with his on-field performance. It's good, but not great. They'll also need to look at the success, or lack thereof, of FCS coaches that have gotten FBS jobs.

Doesn’t have a great track record? On field performance is just good?

Do you recall how bad we were in his first year? How bad the talent was? How little depth there was?

We have never had a HC as good as Choate. Never. I’m dead serious too. The progress that he has made on the field, and off, has been huge for us. I could give a rip what his record is. Larry Coker at Miami had a phenomenal record. Crappy HC. Quite a few other examples like that.

So how has Choate been as a HC? Well, where are we compared to when he first got here? We are far better in all phases. He’s definitely been a great HC here.

Finally, why take his record and take out the Griz games? Lol. “Take out all his wins and he’s lost all his games!” Well buddy, if my Aunt had nuts, she’d be my uncle.

So if we lose coach Choate do we need to add another statue outside the stadium to keep Sonny in his place?

When we lose Choate in a couple of seasons from now we may have to put up another statue...I will give you that.

Holland has the better legacy. And I’ll defer to the elderly if they want to say Holland was better. So how’s about this? Choate is the best coach we’ve had in recent history, by a lot.

I agree that Choate is the best in recent history, but without the hyperbole.

Cliff Hysell got the program moving again after it was in a real serious, disastrous hole. Unfortunately he got sick and things slipped back. Kramer, too, had to dig the team out of a huge hole. They went from 0-11 to the playoffs in his third year. Won three league titles in four years. Ash had to bring things back from oblivion, too. He had an APR mess, a team with a huge off field problem, but he won three straight league titles. The program was not in same kind of trouble for him as it was those three.

So keep Choate's four wins vs. the Griz. That makes him 28-22. Throw out the first two years and he's 19-9. Granted there's probably a FBS loss in there, I don't recall. These aren't great records. No titles other than State Champs, which is pretty freaking awesome I must say. Best league finish is third. But these Griz teams aren't the Griz teams that Hysell, Kramer and Ash had to face. Choate is hot right now and this opening came up at the right time for him, but I don't see BSU taking him based on those marks. That's suicide for everyone on the selection committee, if he doesn't work out. If you take almost anyone else on the list, you can at least point to their record coming in. You can't do that with Choate. It's like bringing in a relief pitcher. Big lefty slugger coming up to face your righty, you don't go to the bullpen and bring in another righty, you get the lefty. Bring the righty and lose you get ripped. Bring the lefty in and you went by the book and are let off the hook.

This isn't me saying Choate isn't the best coach of the bunch. I have no idea on that. I'm just thinking as someone on the committee, especially the AD. They look at this stuff and think of what happens down the road.

There was no hyperbole.

I’m going to keep this short and simple. Watching you, who typically overstates anything blue and gold, try to gloss down what Choate has done here because he might leave is both funny and embarrassing. It’s just like when fans do the whole “oh we didn’t want that recruit anyways” bit after they commit elsewhere.

As far as the record, an AD is going to care a lot more about the record trend than the overall record. An AD is going to value HC experience.

But hey, at least now we know what you really think about what Choate has done here. “Not that great”.

Kind of like how I glossed down Hysell, Kramer and Ash? Yeah, got it. Sorry the facts of this bother you, oh wonderful mind reader.

I save “great” for the Lombardis and Sabans of the world. Are you comparing what Choate has done here to them? He’s done good. Calling it great is hyperbole unless you have some qualifiers for that statement. Like, Choate is great compared to the last four coaches we’ve had. Is that what you’re saying? Or are you putting him up there with the true coaching greats of the game?

Do you just argue for the sake of it?? You need to step away for awhile. My gosh....

These two were having an argument that appears to have ended and then you stepped into it some 7+ hours after the last post. The poster you’re accusing of arguing for the sake of it did not start the argument and it appears the antagonist has politely allowed the last word. Seemed like a good spot to stop and both parties appeared to have moved on. Your advice is good, but might be best served with some self reflection.

[TomCat88]

When the coach, Dan Hawkins, that put Boise on the map left for Colorado, it actually worked well for Boise. Peterson took over and Boise hit its greatest heights. Hawkins time at Colorado was a disaster and he’s, as you all know, the head coach at UC-Davis.

Same thing happened at Gonzaga. Monson took the Zags to the Elite 8, but left for Minnesota. Mark Few took over and Gonzaga just keeps getting better. Monson flopped at Minnesota and now coaches at Long Beach State.

Hawkins to Peterson
Monson to Few.
Choate to ???

You’ll have to excuse me. I’m just looking for a way that this would work out well for MSU. Hoping that this has happened more than twice. I’m also assuming everyone here would be okay with it if Choate suffers a similar fate as Hawkins and Monson as long as MSU ramps up like Boise and Gonzaga. Anyway, thanks for indulging me.

[saintcat40]

Tomcat, I understand your desire for hope and your analogy in terms of progression of successful coaches. But the unfortunate reality is that as coaches, Choate is Peterson, not Hawkins. Let’s hope that for the sake of the Bobcats, Choate stays a couple more years. However, if Choate gets this Boise State job, I will be happy for him. He certainly deserves it.

[TomCat88]

Tomcat, I understand your desire for hope and your analogy in terms of progression of successful coaches. But the unfortunate reality is that as coaches, Choate is Peterson, not Hawkins. Let’s hope that for the sake of the Bobcats, Choate stays a couple more years. However, if Choate gets this Boise State job, I will be happy for him. He certainly deserves it.

Yes, my rational self agrees with you. However this whole thing has me in an irrational mood. Christmas toddy anyone? This whole thing is like a lump of coal in my stocking.

[superbobcat]

When is the interview scheduled or has it happened?