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[Prodigal Cat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

[catbooster]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

At the end of the season NDSU, SDSU, MSU, the griz, and Tarleton (if they make it undefeated) will be in the same tier. If one of those teams has the only loss outside the tier (which SDSU would if they lose 2 games) they would drop to the bottom of the tier.

I’m kinda surprised by how many posters here are convinced that the committee is going to ignore a loss on the field when it comes to seeding.

Maybe that's because there are numerous examples of teams being seeded higher than the team to whom they lost. And the earlier in the season that loss occurred, the less weight it has.

[coloradocat]

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

I literally was responding with the context for why NDSU was seeded over us. We weren't on the same level, now we are. Now that we're treated as equals SDSU with 2 losses should be seeded lower than us with 1 loss, even if it's to SDSU at home, because SDSU's second loss would be to a team outside our tier which makes it a worse loss.

My position is that a bad loss (a loss to a lower tier) added to a tier loss is worse than a 2OT loss within your tier. Your position appears to be, based on a comment towards the beginning, that SDSU beat us so it doesn't matter who their second loss is to, they're locked in ahead of us.

I don't think SDSU will lose 2 games so this is a pointless exercise that we can call a draw but I just want you to understand the opinion you're arguing against.

[Prodigal Cat]

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

I literally was responding with the context for why NDSU was seeded over us. We weren't on the same level, now we are. Now that we're treated as equals SDSU with 2 losses should be seeded lower than us with 1 loss, even if it's to SDSU at home, because SDSU's second loss would be to a team outside our tier which makes it a worse loss.

My position is that a bad loss (a loss to a lower tier) added to a tier loss is worse than a 2OT loss within your tier. Your position appears to be, based on a comment towards the beginning, that SDSU beat us so it doesn't matter who their second loss is to, they're locked in ahead of us.

I don't think SDSU will lose 2 games so this is a pointless exercise that we can call a draw but I just want you to understand the opinion you're arguing against.

I will concede if the Jacks lose to UNI or Indiana St it would be a loss that would knock them lower than the Cats. But if they lose to ILST or @ UND, a team in the top 15, they would still be seeded higher than the Cats. (caveat: I noticed the UND game is their last so that might be different. We've seen the consequences of losing the last day of the year as your final impression on the committee.)

I've shown multiple times the committee seeded the MVFC team higher than the BSC team despite have more losses or less wins. None of those times did they also have a head to head to go along with it. They would here. I stand on a 10-2 Jacks team would be seeded higher than a 10-2 Cats because history has shown it to be true. I don't buy the "its different now" argument. That 10-2 Jacks team would have ranked wins over Sac St, YSU, either ILST or UND and of course the Cats. They would be the 2 or 3 Tarleton dependent and the Cats right below them.

[GoldstoneCat]

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

I literally was responding with the context for why NDSU was seeded over us. We weren't on the same level, now we are. Now that we're treated as equals SDSU with 2 losses should be seeded lower than us with 1 loss, even if it's to SDSU at home, because SDSU's second loss would be to a team outside our tier which makes it a worse loss.

My position is that a bad loss (a loss to a lower tier) added to a tier loss is worse than a 2OT loss within your tier. Your position appears to be, based on a comment towards the beginning, that SDSU beat us so it doesn't matter who their second loss is to, they're locked in ahead of us.

I don't think SDSU will lose 2 games so this is a pointless exercise that we can call a draw but I just want you to understand the opinion you're arguing against.

I will concede if the Jacks lose to UNI or Indiana St it would be a loss that would knock them lower than the Cats. But if they lose to ILST or @ UND, a team in the top 15, they would still be seeded higher than the Cats. (caveat: I noticed the UND game is their last so that might be different. We've seen the consequences of losing the last day of the year as your final impression on the committee.)

I've shown multiple times the committee seeded the MVFC team higher than the BSC team despite have more losses or less wins. None of those times did they also have a head to head to go along with it. They would here. I stand on a 10-2 Jacks team would be seeded higher than a 10-2 Cats because history has shown it to be true. I don't buy the "its different now" argument. That 10-2 Jacks team would have ranked wins over Sac St, YSU, either ILST or UND and of course the Cats. They would be the 2 or 3 Tarleton dependent and the Cats right below them.

I don't necessarily agree but it's hard to argue your logic, based on prior years. The most realistic path for us at 2 (obviously we win out in this hypothetical) is for SDSU to beat ndsu and preferably do it handily, by a couple touchdowns. That makes us 10-1 FCS with 3 ranked wins, including 2 on the road, and a good taste left with the committee by winning in Missoula, and overall SOS of 2.You at least have an argument vs an 11-1 FCS ndsu with a SOS in the 70s. Of course if they were to lose at sdsu and at und it's academic at that point.

[TomCat88]

SDSU's win at MSU is huge for them. I don't like how football at every level handles ties. I especially don't like how college football does it. Setting the ball on the 25 is like having a basketball overtime game be a halfcourt game with one possession overtimes, then if it's still tied after two overtimes making them shoot 3-pointers in the ensuing overtimes.

The NFL version is better. You keep playing 'real' football for 10 minutes and each team gets a chance to possess the ball. Hopefully college goes to that.

Hockey has an overtime, but it doesn't discredit the team that loses in overtime because it recognizes that they aren't playing real hockey when they end the game on the first goal. They don't want the game to run forever, so they do things to get it over with, but they still give the "losing" team a point for ending regulation in a tie.

Baseball just keeps playing baseball in the playoffs. I don't like their 2nd base thing. NFL, Baseball, basketball, hockey all keep playing the game to a point. College football should adopt the NFL system. Starting at the 25 allows it to be too fluky. Prove me wrong and thank you for your attention to this matter. - TJS

[catzz]

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

I literally was responding with the context for why NDSU was seeded over us. We weren't on the same level, now we are. Now that we're treated as equals SDSU with 2 losses should be seeded lower than us with 1 loss, even if it's to SDSU at home, because SDSU's second loss would be to a team outside our tier which makes it a worse loss.

My position is that a bad loss (a loss to a lower tier) added to a tier loss is worse than a 2OT loss within your tier. Your position appears to be, based on a comment towards the beginning, that SDSU beat us so it doesn't matter who their second loss is to, they're locked in ahead of us.

I don't think SDSU will lose 2 games so this is a pointless exercise that we can call a draw but I just want you to understand the opinion you're arguing against.

I will concede if the Jacks lose to UNI or Indiana St it would be a loss that would knock them lower than the Cats. But if they lose to ILST or @ UND, a team in the top 15, they would still be seeded higher than the Cats. (caveat: I noticed the UND game is their last so that might be different. We've seen the consequences of losing the last day of the year as your final impression on the committee.)

I've shown multiple times the committee seeded the MVFC team higher than the BSC team despite have more losses or less wins. None of those times did they also have a head to head to go along with it. They would here. I stand on a 10-2 Jacks team would be seeded higher than a 10-2 Cats because history has shown it to be true. I don't buy the "its different now" argument. That 10-2 Jacks team would have ranked wins over Sac St, YSU, either ILST or UND and of course the Cats. They would be the 2 or 3 Tarleton dependent and the Cats right below them.

Cats win out and somehow SDSU loses two games, we will be seeded higher than them.

[rfischer94]

So here is a question. If NDSU loses to SDSU, then NDSU and Cats are both X-1 in FCS games. Cats loss to SDSU was inches in double overtime. If SDSU handles NDSU much easier, does that vault Cats over NDSU? I would think it should as well, but "will it?"

The committee will never give us the benefit of the doubt over the bizon. Not until we beat then consistently at least.

[Prodigal Cat]

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

I literally was responding with the context for why NDSU was seeded over us. We weren't on the same level, now we are. Now that we're treated as equals SDSU with 2 losses should be seeded lower than us with 1 loss, even if it's to SDSU at home, because SDSU's second loss would be to a team outside our tier which makes it a worse loss.

My position is that a bad loss (a loss to a lower tier) added to a tier loss is worse than a 2OT loss within your tier. Your position appears to be, based on a comment towards the beginning, that SDSU beat us so it doesn't matter who their second loss is to, they're locked in ahead of us.

I don't think SDSU will lose 2 games so this is a pointless exercise that we can call a draw but I just want you to understand the opinion you're arguing against.

I will concede if the Jacks lose to UNI or Indiana St it would be a loss that would knock them lower than the Cats. But if they lose to ILST or @ UND, a team in the top 15, they would still be seeded higher than the Cats. (caveat: I noticed the UND game is their last so that might be different. We've seen the consequences of losing the last day of the year as your final impression on the committee.)

I've shown multiple times the committee seeded the MVFC team higher than the BSC team despite have more losses or less wins. None of those times did they also have a head to head to go along with it. They would here. I stand on a 10-2 Jacks team would be seeded higher than a 10-2 Cats because history has shown it to be true. I don't buy the "its different now" argument. That 10-2 Jacks team would have ranked wins over Sac St, YSU, either ILST or UND and of course the Cats. They would be the 2 or 3 Tarleton dependent and the Cats right below them.

Cats win out and somehow SDSU loses two games, we will be seeded higher than them.

Do you have instances or data to back up your post? Because i posted numerous times where the BSC team was seeded lower than a NDSU or SDSU despite having more wins or less losses. You just posted your opinion which I'm pretty sure the committee doesn't take into consideration. Just saying something doesn't make it true.

[catatac]

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.

You are literally arguing that MSU would get the nod over SDSU because we are a proven commodity now. You intimated it.

I literally was responding with the context for why NDSU was seeded over us. We weren't on the same level, now we are. Now that we're treated as equals SDSU with 2 losses should be seeded lower than us with 1 loss, even if it's to SDSU at home, because SDSU's second loss would be to a team outside our tier which makes it a worse loss.

My position is that a bad loss (a loss to a lower tier) added to a tier loss is worse than a 2OT loss within your tier. Your position appears to be, based on a comment towards the beginning, that SDSU beat us so it doesn't matter who their second loss is to, they're locked in ahead of us.

I don't think SDSU will lose 2 games so this is a pointless exercise that we can call a draw but I just want you to understand the opinion you're arguing against.

I will concede if the Jacks lose to UNI or Indiana St it would be a loss that would knock them lower than the Cats. But if they lose to ILST or @ UND, a team in the top 15, they would still be seeded higher than the Cats. (caveat: I noticed the UND game is their last so that might be different. We've seen the consequences of losing the last day of the year as your final impression on the committee.)

I've shown multiple times the committee seeded the MVFC team higher than the BSC team despite have more losses or less wins. None of those times did they also have a head to head to go along with it. They would here. I stand on a 10-2 Jacks team would be seeded higher than a 10-2 Cats because history has shown it to be true. I don't buy the "its different now" argument. That 10-2 Jacks team would have ranked wins over Sac St, YSU, either ILST or UND and of course the Cats. They would be the 2 or 3 Tarleton dependent and the Cats right below them.

Cats win out and somehow SDSU loses two games, we will be seeded higher than them.

This.

[onceacat]

A semi at Tarelton would be a gift. Either from the 3 or 6 position depending on how the game over the hill goes. Personally we've seen teams like Tarelton get beat along the way in the playoffs, so I don't think they host a semi even with the #2 seed.

Personally I think we max out at the #4 even with an 8-0 conference record unless we get help (looking at you North Dakota). The way it looks at the moment, marker schools and a 12-0 Tarleton will all be ahead of us in the seeds. Somebody mentioned this already, but it's conceivable they gift Tarelton the #1 just like the previous weak SHSU. All of a sudden the #4 is a perfect spot, although it might mean a rematch with the gris fwiw.

I agree that #4 is probably the best we can do but I also think #2 is the best Tarleton can do. The committee isn't going to seed an up and coming team above both XDSUs if they are undefeated outside of the marker game.

Sammy won the national championship the prior year and started the season at #1. Comparing that 2021 Sammy team with this years Tarleton team doesnt make any sense. If MSU is rolling Big Sky teams & beats the gris I'm pretty confident that the Cats get the #3 seed over an undefeated Tarleton.

[onceacat]

SDSU's win at MSU is huge for them. I don't like how football at every level handles ties. I especially don't like how college football does it. Setting the ball on the 25 is like having a basketball overtime game be a halfcourt game with one possession overtimes, then if it's still tied after two overtimes making them shoot 3-pointers in the ensuing overtimes.

The NFL version is better. You keep playing 'real' football for 10 minutes and each team gets a chance to possess the ball. Hopefully college goes to that.

Hockey has an overtime, but it doesn't discredit the team that loses in overtime because it recognizes that they aren't playing real hockey when they end the game on the first goal. They don't want the game to run forever, so they do things to get it over with, but they still give the "losing" team a point for ending regulation in a tie.

Baseball just keeps playing baseball in the playoffs. I don't like their 2nd base thing. NFL, Baseball, basketball, hockey all keep playing the game to a point. College football should adopt the NFL system. Starting at the 25 allows it to be too fluky. Prove me wrong and thank you for your attention to this matter. - TJS

Respectfully disagree Tom. NFL OT is the worst OT in all sports. CFB is the best, and both by a pretty long stretch.

CFB is 100% exactly real football. CFB plays on a short field all the time. NFL sucks because sudden death is an awful way to do OT...and also NFL can end in a tie.

This is a gobsmackingly bad take from a guy who is usually pretty thoughtful and reasonable.

[CelticCat]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

[catatac]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

Absolutely zero chance the Cats are not in the top four if we win out. If that does happen, I predict we'll be the #2 seed.

[Prodigal Cat]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

Absolutely zero chance the Cats are not in the top four if we win out. If that does happen, I predict we'll be the #2 seed.

It's amazing how many posters here are thinking there is zero consequences for losing at home to SDSU. A top 2 seed is decidedly NOT in the Cats control. Heck I'm not even sure the the Griz have it in their control either. I could totally see the committee putting 12-0 and 11-1 xDSU's 1 and 2 if they win out besides the marker.

[catatac]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

Absolutely zero chance the Cats are not in the top four if we win out. If that does happen, I predict we'll be the #2 seed.

It's amazing how many posters here are thinking there is zero consequences for losing at home to SDSU. A top 2 seed is decidedly NOT in the Cats control. Heck I'm not even sure the the Griz have it in their control either. I could totally see the committee putting 12-0 and 11-1 xDSU's 1 and 2 if they win out besides the marker.

I see what you're saying, and I didn't ever say there is zero consequences for losing that game, in fact it was a huge deal and as you state, it took us a guaranteed #1 or #2 seed out of our control. No questions on any of that as far as I'm concerned. My argument is that if the Cats win out there is zero chance they don't end up with at least the #4 seed. Is anyone disputing this?

Then I added just my prediction, opinion that if the Cats do happen to win out, we'll end up as the #2. Yes this would probably require a DSU and\or Tarleton to lose a game somewhere, in addition to the Marker game.

[RickRund]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

All while the gris struggled against #39 ISU and a QB that might have not been 100%…

[catatac]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

All while the gris struggled against #39 ISU and a QB that might have not been 100%…

Well all we know for sure, is that WHEN the Cats put it to ISU, Griz Nation will remind everyone that their game was squeaker because the Griz best DBs were on the bench, Griz played them at ISU, ISU didn't play well against the Cats because of the Griz hangover, etc... and there will be many more excuses forthcoming.

[onceacat]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

Absolutely zero chance the Cats are not in the top four if we win out. If that does happen, I predict we'll be the #2 seed.

It's amazing how many posters here are thinking there is zero consequences for losing at home to SDSU. A top 2 seed is decidedly NOT in the Cats control. Heck I'm not even sure the the Griz have it in their control either. I could totally see the committee putting 12-0 and 11-1 xDSU's 1 and 2 if they win out besides the marker.

How a team loses makes a big difference. If NDSU goes down the stretch with a bunch of close games or fluky wins & then gets walloped by the Jacks in the Marker, they probably drop below the winner of the Brawl.

Rigght now, pretty much everyone voting agrees on 3 things: 1) NDSU is the #1 until someone proves otherwise. 2) SDSU is the clear #2 due to beating the Cats in Bozeman. 3) MSU/UM/Tarleton are the 3-4 seeds, UNLESS something convinces voters to drop one of the DSUs.

But if SDSU mops the floor with NDSU, voters are going to have to think long and hard about putting the Bison ahead of the Brawl winner.

[Prodigal Cat]

I think we're already seeing the reality in the national polls - we got leapfrogged by the Griz after beating the brakes off of EWU and the Griz beat Idaho at home, yet the inverse did not happen after we smoked the #13 team on the road and the Griz squeaked by Idaho State.

We only have 2 ranked opponents left so it's not out of the possibility we fall further during the next 4 game stertch even if we go 4-0 vs ISU, CP, UNC, Weber.

The good news is we should have two top 10 opponents at the very end to earn our way into the top 4.

Absolutely zero chance the Cats are not in the top four if we win out. If that does happen, I predict we'll be the #2 seed.

It's amazing how many posters here are thinking there is zero consequences for losing at home to SDSU. A top 2 seed is decidedly NOT in the Cats control. Heck I'm not even sure the the Griz have it in their control either. I could totally see the committee putting 12-0 and 11-1 xDSU's 1 and 2 if they win out besides the marker.

How a team loses makes a big difference. If NDSU goes down the stretch with a bunch of close games or fluky wins & then gets walloped by the Jacks in the Marker, they probably drop below the winner of the Brawl.

Rigght now, pretty much everyone voting agrees on 3 things: 1) NDSU is the #1 until someone proves otherwise. 2) SDSU is the clear #2 due to beating the Cats in Bozeman. 3) MSU/UM/Tarleton are the 3-4 seeds, UNLESS something convinces voters to drop one of the DSUs.

But if SDSU mops the floor with NDSU, voters are going to have to think long and hard about putting the Bison ahead of the Brawl winner.

None of this is couched in reality or backed up historically. Last year the Bison lost their FBS, then barely snuck by a mediocre ETSU in miraculous fashion, yet still when the mid season rankings came out, were the number #1 seed. Ahead of an undefeated MSU with more D1 wins and an FBS win. If the Bison or the Jacks win all of their remaining games on last second FG's, they will be the number 1 seed. Period. You keep making statements here with zero historical backing in what the committee has done in the past. The Cats jumped to the #1 because both xDSU's lost their FBS and an FCS giving them 2 less D1 wins. The decision was made for the committee.