Or Cam MillerJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 7:29 amThat’s a really good comparison! Almost a CEO quarterback, who can also pick up a 3rd and 8 with his legs.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:15 amLamson is a better “traditional” quarterback than anyone since McGhee. I think he’s a better fit for what Vigen wants to do offensively than Mellott and Chambers. Reminds me of Mark Gronowski in 2023 in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, especially over the last three games.
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Mellott 6’0” 208WalkOn79 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:21 pmOr Cam MillerJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 7:29 amThat’s a really good comparison! Almost a CEO quarterback, who can also pick up a 3rd and 8 with his legs.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:15 amLamson is a better “traditional” quarterback than anyone since McGhee. I think he’s a better fit for what Vigen wants to do offensively than Mellott and Chambers. Reminds me of Mark Gronowski in 2023 in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, especially over the last three games.
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Very similar!TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:12 pmMellott 6’0” 208WalkOn79 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:21 pmOr Cam MillerJoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 7:29 amThat’s a really good comparison! Almost a CEO quarterback, who can also pick up a 3rd and 8 with his legs.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:15 amLamson is a better “traditional” quarterback than anyone since McGhee. I think he’s a better fit for what Vigen wants to do offensively than Mellott and Chambers. Reminds me of Mark Gronowski in 2023 in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, especially over the last three games.
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One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
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Staff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 amOne of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
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As a rebuttal, we haven't thrown it much the last couple weeks because that wasn't what the game dictated. If Lamson had deep shots called for him like at uncu the past couple weeks his total production could be quite a bit higher.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 amStaff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 amOne of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Anecdotally we don't feel as explosive on offense this season, but we're still very productive and Lamson deserves credit for that. We're also playing the best complementary ball we've ever played imo.
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Yes, which is why I pointed out that Mellott was twice as efficient on the ground and that his ability with his legs set him apart.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 amStaff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 amOne of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
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Wow....I had no idea. Obviously not as explosive, but still....I don't think anyone predicted Lamson to come in and pick up where tommy left off. Huge credit to Justin, the coaching staff, and the team.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 amOne of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
I think it's also especially impressive considering we brought in a new OC as well. Vigen's ability to lead this program, just continues to impress.
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Thanks for the analysis. I am one who was concerned about the QB position at the start of the season and there were certainly opinions expressed that we were naïve to think we could win the conference without Tommy. But the season has turned me around. We aren’t the same as last year and we shouldn’t be, but we are doing just fine with Justin behind center….and he will continue to grow.
I was reminded about a comment by one of our MSU coaches that a good coach learns to win using the tools he has been given and those tools change every year. Or as Lou Holz used to say…I’ll take mine and beat yours or I’ll take yours and beat mine!
I was reminded about a comment by one of our MSU coaches that a good coach learns to win using the tools he has been given and those tools change every year. Or as Lou Holz used to say…I’ll take mine and beat yours or I’ll take yours and beat mine!
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The one big difference I see in the offense this year versus last year is the ability to convert any distance third down. Maybe I’m imagining it but I don’t think we’re nearly as efficient and I really never worried about third and mid or long situations with Tommy at QB. Lamson on the other hand…GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:59 amAs a rebuttal, we haven't thrown it much the last couple weeks because that wasn't what the game dictated. If Lamson had deep shots called for him like at uncu the past couple weeks his total production could be quite a bit higher.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 amStaff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 amOne of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Anecdotally we don't feel as explosive on offense this season, but we're still very productive and Lamson deserves credit for that. We're also playing the best complementary ball we've ever played imo.
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I don't know what the conversion rate on 3rd/4th down was for the Cats last year just in conference games, but in all of their games it was 55%. This year's team is overall at 52% and just in BSC, it's 53%. So it's pretty comparable.RyeCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:31 amThe one big difference I see in the offense this year versus last year is the ability to convert any distance third down. Maybe I’m imagining it but I don’t think we’re nearly as efficient and I really never worried about third and mid or long situations with Tommy at QB. Lamson on the other hand…GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:59 amAs a rebuttal, we haven't thrown it much the last couple weeks because that wasn't what the game dictated. If Lamson had deep shots called for him like at uncu the past couple weeks his total production could be quite a bit higher.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 amStaff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 amOne of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:
Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD
Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD
Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.
The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.
The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.
My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Anecdotally we don't feel as explosive on offense this season, but we're still very productive and Lamson deserves credit for that. We're also playing the best complementary ball we've ever played imo.
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Pretty pretty good!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:25 amLamson is I think, the ideal fit for how Vigen likes to play.
He is good sized, tough, can run, can hit the deep ball. I think he’s very similar to Chambers but more consistent and less turnover prone. I don’t think he’s going to split time with anybody either.
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Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pmGotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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I'm sure there was more than just this, but the entire team was clearly very frustrated by how lopsided the officiating was. I think they all got super ticked when Pinnick flopped like a coward.
Thankfully, Eckert and Gray buried him after he threw that awful pick.
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My thought is that it was the lunge towards his knee after he was a yard into the endzone that fired him up. Could be wrong though. Love the fire!RyeCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pmHe was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pmGotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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I think it’s Dane steel but the inside receiver just lights that corner up and buried him into the turfDriftCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:42 pmMy thought is that it was the lunge towards his knee after he was a yard into the endzone that fired him up. Could be wrong though. Love the fire!RyeCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pmHe was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pmGotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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It is Dane. He then jaws at him like crazy.RedClowder wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:04 pmI think it’s Dane steel but the inside receiver just lights that corner up and buried him into the turfDriftCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:42 pmMy thought is that it was the lunge towards his knee after he was a yard into the endzone that fired him up. Could be wrong though. Love the fire!RyeCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pmHe was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pmGotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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He is from that area, brother played for UCD, had family here. I would think that added some hype to him.RyeCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pmHe was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pmGotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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I think he also said he had "some" recruiting interest from UCD as well. He made it sound like it didn't really go anywhere so that probably motivated him.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:47 pmHe is from that area, brother played for UCD, had family here. I would think that added some hype to him.RyeCat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pmHe was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pmGotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.
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