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Post by WalkOn79 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:21 pm

JoeCatsJoe wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 7:29 am
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Lamson is a better “traditional” quarterback than anyone since McGhee. I think he’s a better fit for what Vigen wants to do offensively than Mellott and Chambers. Reminds me of Mark Gronowski in 2023 in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, especially over the last three games.
That’s a really good comparison! Almost a CEO quarterback, who can also pick up a 3rd and 8 with his legs.
Or Cam Miller


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Post by TomCat88 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:12 pm

WalkOn79 wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:21 pm
JoeCatsJoe wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 7:29 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:15 am
Lamson is a better “traditional” quarterback than anyone since McGhee. I think he’s a better fit for what Vigen wants to do offensively than Mellott and Chambers. Reminds me of Mark Gronowski in 2023 in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, especially over the last three games.
That’s a really good comparison! Almost a CEO quarterback, who can also pick up a 3rd and 8 with his legs.
Or Cam Miller
Mellott 6’0” 208
Miller 6’1” 210
Lamson 6’2” 220
Gronowski 6-3, 230

Miller180.1 2024
Mellott 177.7 2024
Lamson 168.1 2025 (Last 3 214.7)
Gronowski 179.7 2023


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Re: Justin Lamson Transfers in

Post by WalkOn79 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 3:58 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:12 pm
WalkOn79 wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:21 pm
JoeCatsJoe wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 7:29 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:15 am
Lamson is a better “traditional” quarterback than anyone since McGhee. I think he’s a better fit for what Vigen wants to do offensively than Mellott and Chambers. Reminds me of Mark Gronowski in 2023 in terms of efficiency and effectiveness, especially over the last three games.
That’s a really good comparison! Almost a CEO quarterback, who can also pick up a 3rd and 8 with his legs.
Or Cam Miller
Mellott 6’0” 208
Miller 6’1” 210
Lamson 6’2” 220
Gronowski 6-3, 230

Miller180.1 2024
Mellott 177.7 2024
Lamson 168.1 2025 (Last 3 214.7)
Gronowski 179.7 2023
Very similar!


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Re: Justin Lamson Transfers in

Post by MrGoodKat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am

One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.



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Re: Justin Lamson Transfers in

Post by tetoncat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 am

MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am
One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Staff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.


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Re: Justin Lamson Transfers in

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:59 am

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am
One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Staff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.
As a rebuttal, we haven't thrown it much the last couple weeks because that wasn't what the game dictated. If Lamson had deep shots called for him like at uncu the past couple weeks his total production could be quite a bit higher.

Anecdotally we don't feel as explosive on offense this season, but we're still very productive and Lamson deserves credit for that. We're also playing the best complementary ball we've ever played imo.



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Re: Justin Lamson Transfers in

Post by MrGoodKat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:00 am

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am
One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Staff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.
Yes, which is why I pointed out that Mellott was twice as efficient on the ground and that his ability with his legs set him apart.



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Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:06 am

MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am
One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Wow....I had no idea. Obviously not as explosive, but still....I don't think anyone predicted Lamson to come in and pick up where tommy left off. Huge credit to Justin, the coaching staff, and the team.

I think it's also especially impressive considering we brought in a new OC as well. Vigen's ability to lead this program, just continues to impress.
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Post by BobcatDel » Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:17 am

Thanks for the analysis. I am one who was concerned about the QB position at the start of the season and there were certainly opinions expressed that we were naïve to think we could win the conference without Tommy. But the season has turned me around. We aren’t the same as last year and we shouldn’t be, but we are doing just fine with Justin behind center….and he will continue to grow.

I was reminded about a comment by one of our MSU coaches that a good coach learns to win using the tools he has been given and those tools change every year. Or as Lou Holz used to say…I’ll take mine and beat yours or I’ll take yours and beat mine!



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Post by RyeCat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:31 am

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am
One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Staff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.
As a rebuttal, we haven't thrown it much the last couple weeks because that wasn't what the game dictated. If Lamson had deep shots called for him like at uncu the past couple weeks his total production could be quite a bit higher.

Anecdotally we don't feel as explosive on offense this season, but we're still very productive and Lamson deserves credit for that. We're also playing the best complementary ball we've ever played imo.
The one big difference I see in the offense this year versus last year is the ability to convert any distance third down. Maybe I’m imagining it but I don’t think we’re nearly as efficient and I really never worried about third and mid or long situations with Tommy at QB. Lamson on the other hand…



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Post by MrGoodKat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:45 am

RyeCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:31 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 am
MrGoodKat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:31 am
One of the biggest storylines of the off-season was the task of replacing perhaps the greatest Bobcat quarterback to ever do it, coming off one of the greatest seasons of offense that Cat fans have ever seen. So I wanted to check in this week to see how Lamson's performance over seven conference games compares to where Mellott was at this point a year ago. Here are the numbers:

Mellot: 82/119, 69%, 1171 yds, 9.8 YPA, 14 TD, 1 INT, 39 carries, 403 yds, 10.3 YPC, 7 TD

Lamson: 100/146, 68%, 1435 yds, 9.8 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 73 carries, 359 yds, 4.9 YPC, 8 TD

Lamson has 1794 total yards of offense and 24 total touchdowns, while Tommy had 1574 total yards of offense and 21 total touchdowns. But in terms of yd per offensive touch, Tommy was at 10.0, while Lamson is at 8.2; in terms of TD per offensive touch, Tommy was at .13, while Lamson is at .11. In other words, Tommy was more effective on a per snap basis, but just played fewer snaps.

The passing numbers are strikingly similar in terms of rate-- completion %, yds/attempt, TD rate, INT rate are all very close; Lamson has just played more and thus has more total attempts.

The raw rushing numbers are also very close, with the obvious caveat that Tommy did it twice as efficiently.

My point here is not to say that Lamson is Tommy 2.0. Mellott's ability to break plays with his legs set him apart. But I do think it warrants appreciation that MSU graduated maybe their best QB ever and have replaced his production so admirably. This is perhaps especially true in light of some of the criticism that Lamson received early on. This season would look very different if he had stayed at Bowling Green.
Staff purposely didn't run Mellott as much last year till late in season and playoffs.
As a rebuttal, we haven't thrown it much the last couple weeks because that wasn't what the game dictated. If Lamson had deep shots called for him like at uncu the past couple weeks his total production could be quite a bit higher.

Anecdotally we don't feel as explosive on offense this season, but we're still very productive and Lamson deserves credit for that. We're also playing the best complementary ball we've ever played imo.
The one big difference I see in the offense this year versus last year is the ability to convert any distance third down. Maybe I’m imagining it but I don’t think we’re nearly as efficient and I really never worried about third and mid or long situations with Tommy at QB. Lamson on the other hand…
I don't know what the conversion rate on 3rd/4th down was for the Cats last year just in conference games, but in all of their games it was 55%. This year's team is overall at 52% and just in BSC, it's 53%. So it's pretty comparable.



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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 2:59 pm

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Lamson is I think, the ideal fit for how Vigen likes to play.

He is good sized, tough, can run, can hit the deep ball. I think he’s very similar to Chambers but more consistent and less turnover prone. I don’t think he’s going to split time with anybody either.
Pretty pretty good!



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Post by coloradocat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pm

Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.



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coloradocat wrote:
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Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.

He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.



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He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.
I'm sure there was more than just this, but the entire team was clearly very frustrated by how lopsided the officiating was. I think they all got super ticked when Pinnick flopped like a coward.

Thankfully, Eckert and Gray buried him after he threw that awful pick.



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Post by DriftCat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:42 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pm
Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.

He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.
My thought is that it was the lunge towards his knee after he was a yard into the endzone that fired him up. Could be wrong though. Love the fire!


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DriftCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:42 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pm
Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.

He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.
My thought is that it was the lunge towards his knee after he was a yard into the endzone that fired him up. Could be wrong though. Love the fire!
I think it’s Dane steel but the inside receiver just lights that corner up and buried him into the turf



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RedClowder wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:04 pm
DriftCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:42 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pm
Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.

He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.
My thought is that it was the lunge towards his knee after he was a yard into the endzone that fired him up. Could be wrong though. Love the fire!
I think it’s Dane steel but the inside receiver just lights that corner up and buried him into the turf
It is Dane. He then jaws at him like crazy.



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Post by tetoncat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:47 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pm
Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.

He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.
He is from that area, brother played for UCD, had family here. I would think that added some hype to him.


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Post by coloradocat » Wed Nov 19, 2025 9:12 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 6:47 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:34 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Nov 19, 2025 3:24 pm
Gotta love a QB trash talking the entire other team all the way from the end zone to the bench after delivering the nail in the coffin.

He was FIRED up. I didn’t catch that live but definitely did on the rewatch. I wonder what in particular set him off.
He is from that area, brother played for UCD, had family here. I would think that added some hype to him.
I think he also said he had "some" recruiting interest from UCD as well. He made it sound like it didn't really go anywhere so that probably motivated him.


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