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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by Monymony » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:10 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:01 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:47 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.
The NDSU game was lost on a bad PAT and we had a 43 yarder against Idaho. Myles is so much better but he hadn’t had a single kick that has had real implications. Everyone one can do it when it doesn’t matter but when the season is on the line that will tell us where the kicking game is at. I just think we as fans need to have fair assessments of our team. Yes we are so dang good but still not perfect.
If you're going to downplay everything the Cats are doing this year, at least get your facts straight. Kautzman missed a FG on the 1st two drives of the NDSU game last year. 33 and 49.
Fair but Myles still hasn’t had a fg with real impact. Kautzman seemed to fold under pressure but we haven’t seen Myles under pressure. I don’t mean to downplay the cats but I’m not sure we can say our kicking problems are solved when we haven’t have a single kick under real pressure.



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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by tetoncat » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:03 pm

Monymony wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:10 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:01 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:47 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.
The NDSU game was lost on a bad PAT and we had a 43 yarder against Idaho. Myles is so much better but he hadn’t had a single kick that has had real implications. Everyone one can do it when it doesn’t matter but when the season is on the line that will tell us where the kicking game is at. I just think we as fans need to have fair assessments of our team. Yes we are so dang good but still not perfect.
If you're going to downplay everything the Cats are doing this year, at least get your facts straight. Kautzman missed a FG on the 1st two drives of the NDSU game last year. 33 and 49.
Fair but Myles still hasn’t had a fg with real impact. Kautzman seemed to fold under pressure but we haven’t seen Myles under pressure. I don’t mean to downplay the cats but I’m not sure we can say our kicking problems are solved when we haven’t have a single kick under real pressure.
Kauffman was in because Hall couldn't hit regular or under pressure last year. Sansted has hit a few after we ran successful 2 minute drives at end of half. Those have some pressure. He has hit when opening possession stalled and it was important to get points. Let's hope don't need him, not because he can't but because Cats take care of business.


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:21 pm

Monymony wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:10 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:01 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:47 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:30 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:08 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:37 am
Monymony wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 am
We undoubtedly have the skill and coaches but as we know from last season, the national championship level teams always find a way to win. We did it at UNM in week 0 but since then we have dominated early. Maybe we are just that good but I’d love to see us battle through one to show how mentally sound we can be.
I think it's past time for the narrative about MSU to shift from "they haven't played anyone" to "they're kicking everyone's asses". National championship teams don't usually need to find ways to win close games because they almost always decisively defeat teams they're clearly better than. And MSU has been doing it over and over again this year after the UNM game. No trap games, no let downs, no nail biters, just beat who you're better than and move on to the next opponent. From what I've seen so far, I think MSU will beat UC Davis by two or three scores even on the road.
My point is last year we looked phenomenal for half the season. Then we got into some close games and weren’t able to battle adversity and win. That problem is exactly what caused us to not make it to the semi finals/Frisco. If this team can do that we can 100% win a championship
Disagree. The problem last year was not having a guy who could make a field goal...or extra point in one key spot. That problem appears to have been solved this year.
That was definitely a factor but we haven’t had a single “big kick” that we have had to make. Until then I wouldn’t guarantee our kicking issues are fixed.
The kicking issues absolutely have been fixed. Just watch the games and you can see it. The Bobcats win both the Idaho and NDSU games last year if they had a kicker who could make a field goal. And those weren't always "big kicks" either but first half misses that came back to haunt them later. You're searching really hard for reasons to doubt MSU for some reason when absolutely nothing we've seen justifies it.
The NDSU game was lost on a bad PAT and we had a 43 yarder against Idaho. Myles is so much better but he hadn’t had a single kick that has had real implications. Everyone one can do it when it doesn’t matter but when the season is on the line that will tell us where the kicking game is at. I just think we as fans need to have fair assessments of our team. Yes we are so dang good but still not perfect.
If you're going to downplay everything the Cats are doing this year, at least get your facts straight. Kautzman missed a FG on the 1st two drives of the NDSU game last year. 33 and 49.
Fair but Myles still hasn’t had a fg with real impact. Kautzman seemed to fold under pressure but we haven’t seen Myles under pressure. I don’t mean to downplay the cats but I’m not sure we can say our kicking problems are solved when we haven’t have a single kick under real pressure.
I think you’re up playing the Bobcats. The best solution to kicking FGs is to never have to kick one under pressure or that you need to win a game. I think Sansted and the operation are really good. I think that’s the best kicking can be. If your operation is good, 99% is solved. Kickers understand the psychological side of their job really well. Very very few miss because they’re nervous and shaking in their boots. They know how to block that out. If you block, snap, hold and kick straight (as Sansted is exceptional at) you’re going to make a lot of kicks regardless of the pressure. Most missed kicks involve an operational problem, not nerves.


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by allcat » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:54 pm

I'm going to wait on lynching the kickers till they actually cost us a game. Till then, I think they are doing pretty good this year.


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Re: FCS Games 10/26

Post by cats2506 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:15 pm

Only team in the country that fans cheer like crazy when we make an extra point :lol:


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