Serious Question...

[aucat]

Well, we thought we had SDSU whipped.....at THEIR place. So if we came THAT close to beating SDSU and yet UM administered an old fashioned blowout "ass kicking" to MSU, why WOULDN'T a griz fan feel pretty confident going into this game? SDSU beat us by 4 points (though we thought we had won on that last play.) UM beat us by 30! BY THIRTY!

So that translates into the gris beating SDSU by at least three touchdowns. But no, I'm not placing a bet.

[AFCAT]

Well, we thought we had SDSU whipped.....at THEIR place. So if we came THAT close to beating SDSU and yet UM administered an old fashioned blowout "ass kicking" to MSU, why WOULDN'T a griz fan feel pretty confident going into this game? SDSU beat us by 4 points (though we thought we had won on that last play.) UM beat us by 30! BY THIRTY!

So that translates into the gris beating SDSU by at least three touchdowns. But no, I'm not placing a bet.

Comparing scores is a losing proposition. SDSU beat NDSU by 17 - Um beat NDSU by 2. MSU beat Northern Arizona by 24 points - um lost to Northern Arizona by 14.

[Common Cat]

Griz feast on momentum. First time playing outside of their stadium since cat griz. Their crowd will still show up. I see this game as a 60/40 game.

So you think the griz beat sdsu 4 out of 10 times? No way dude. Maybe 1 in 10.

You might be right. I want to believe you are! But they’re on a heater right now. I think they have tremendous team confidence. Given that- still think the Jacks are a better team.

And to add in an edit - The 60/40 applies to this one game. If I was looking at a ten game spread, no I do not believe the griz would win 4 times. That’s also very odd to think about.

That's exactly what a 40% chance of winning means.

Correct. However, what if your team loses its star player or collection of players in that 10 game series? It makes it more difficult to say flatly, this team could beat that team four out of ten games. Obviously teams are dynamic and change. So in my thought, and post, the sample size is one game. So, for this discrete game, I do believe the griz have a 40% chance of winning.

[catatac]

Griz feast on momentum. First time playing outside of their stadium since cat griz. Their crowd will still show up. I see this game as a 60/40 game.

So you think the griz beat sdsu 4 out of 10 times? No way dude. Maybe 1 in 10.

You might be right. I want to believe you are! But they’re on a heater right now. I think they have tremendous team confidence. Given that- still think the Jacks are a better team.

And to add in an edit - The 60/40 applies to this one game. If I was looking at a ten game spread, no I do not believe the griz would win 4 times. That’s also very odd to think about.

That's exactly what a 40% chance of winning means.

Correct. However, what if your team loses its star player or collection of players in that 10 game series? It makes it more difficult to say flatly, this team could beat that team four out of ten games. Obviously teams are dynamic and change. So in my thought, and post, the sample size is one game. So, for this discrete game, I do believe the griz have a 40% chance of winning.

Well depending on how confident you are in that..... what is your percentage guess for the Griz losing, but keeping the final score under 14 points? 95%? You could lay a bunch of $$ on that bet at any MT Sports Betting machine.

[catatac]

Griz feast on momentum. First time playing outside of their stadium since cat griz. Their crowd will still show up. I see this game as a 60/40 game.

So you think the griz beat sdsu 4 out of 10 times? No way dude. Maybe 1 in 10.

You might be right. I want to believe you are! But they’re on a heater right now. I think they have tremendous team confidence. Given that- still think the Jacks are a better team.

So were the Cats in playoffs in '21. A 3 week layoff coupled with Tommy getting hurt completely derailed it. Also, the Griz just aren't the same outside of WaGriz. It will be hard for them to feed on momentum when 50% (or more as I'm sure the SDSU fans got their tickets when they went on sale in Sept) of the crowd is Blue and Yellow.

If there is a betting angle to be had and I'm thinking I might do it, it's Jacks -6.5 first half. I genuinely see this getting out of hand early and less than a TD at half is a a very reasonable bet.

I think a lot of people vastly underestimate just how big of a difference this makes. I think on average them playing at home is worth probably 14 points. Some games a bit less and some more. It's not just the penalties (But there were a BUNCH of them for opposing teams, not the Griz throughout the three playoff games), but just all the other problems factoring in trying to play there. Think about those last two playoff games that both went into OT - 25,000 fans screaming their lungs out, right on top of you, in the loudest stadium in the FCS. Surprising that either of those games could have still gone either way. I don't see this one being very close, and I think SDSU would beat UM even in Missoula although it would be a lot closer.

[catatac]

One other question\point on the game in Frisco. I just watched part of last year's game and holy **** did it look like a lot of SDSU fans there. Take a look. I don't see any reason why there would be FEWER SDSU fans there this go around? I know some Griz fans are wanting to think they'll have more fans there than SDSU but I'm not seeing it, unless I'm missing something.

[ilovethecats]

One other question\point on the game in Frisco. I just watched part of last year's game and holy **** did it look like a lot of SDSU fans there. Take a look. I don't see any reason why there would be FEWER SDSU fans there this go around? I know some Griz fans are wanting to think they'll have more fans there than SDSU but I'm not seeing it, unless I'm missing something.

Especially considering that every SDSU fan was buying tix as soon as they went on sale as they returned nearly everyone from their championship team last year. Can't imagine most griz fans were that confident at the time. Now it's a free for all but it's not like only griz fans will buy tickets. I think some are vastly underrating how many SDSu fans will be there. Place will be rocking.

[nanacat]

According to this article they asked Vigen to comment on the upcoming game, and he declined.
Idaho coach, former South Dakota State coordinator Jason Eck analyzes FCS championship matchup - https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... ip-matchup

Does anyone else feel like there's an extreme amount of press on the gris? Was there this much when the Cats made it in 2021? Maybe, but seems like more this time.

[Griznationalist]

According to this article they asked Vigen to comment on the upcoming game, and he declined.
Idaho coach, former South Dakota State coordinator Jason Eck analyzes FCS championship matchup - https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... ip-matchup

Does anyone else feel like there's an extreme amount of press on the gris? Was there this much when the Cats made it in 2021? Maybe, but seems like more this time.

Doesn’t seem like extreme amounts of press coverage. SDSU is clearly the favorite and understandably so. UM is playing in its 8th National Championship Game in a span of 28 seasons, so they get a little bit of press interest from that angle.

[Camo_Cat]

Listen - I hate dUMb as much as the next guy, and I won't be rooting for them whatsoever. Aside from the hatred, I am not so sure why so many Cat fans are unable to give them the credit they deserve this year. Everyone had them dead and buried after they barely lost to Ferris Bueller State, and then lost to NAU. But they rattled off a bunch of wins in row to finish as the hottest team in the league.

Throw in the fact they pummeled us by manhandling our lines (which no one was able to do) and they beat some pretty good playoff teams that we were unable to beat (Idaho and NDSU). Their defense is stout and playing extremely well right now. And defense wins championships. I would ride that defense that they have right now any day of the week. Their QB is doing just enough to win ball games, and their special teams are probably the best in the nation.

I think this game is gonna be a lot closer than most everybody wants to believe. I still give SDSU the nod, but I think it will be a darn close game.

[CodyCat]

Let’s just hope for everything right in the world that SDSU wins.

[rivercat]

Currently the Jackrabbits are 12.5 point favorites which carries an implied odds of 88.7% of them winning. The gris absolutely can win, but I think that would come down to at least 2 of the 4 following things occuring.

1. Gris make big ST plays
2. SDSU playing poorly
3. Key injury(s) to SDSU
2. A turnover margin of +2 in favor of the gris.

These can happen. But if both teams play well and injury free, SDSU wins.

[Prodigal Cat]

One other question\point on the game in Frisco. I just watched part of last year's game and holy **** did it look like a lot of SDSU fans there. Take a look. I don't see any reason why there would be FEWER SDSU fans there this go around? I know some Griz fans are wanting to think they'll have more fans there than SDSU but I'm not seeing it, unless I'm missing something.

Wouldn't shock me if its 60/40 or 70/30 SDSU fans. I know several griz fans, season ticket holders that aren't going. Most are naming cost, previous plans etc etc. Jacks fans bought tickets in mass when they went up for sale this fall along with MSU fans and NDSU fans. I bet more um fans will be buying tickets next fall now that they know the routine. NDSU fans might not be next season.

[84CatGrad]

According to this article they asked Vigen to comment on the upcoming game, and he declined.
Idaho coach, former South Dakota State coordinator Jason Eck analyzes FCS championship matchup - https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... ip-matchup

Does anyone else feel like there's an extreme amount of press on the gris? Was there this much when the Cats made it in 2021? Maybe, but seems like more this time.

Guess which one of the two major universities in the state has the journalism school?

[nanacat]

According to this article they asked Vigen to comment on the upcoming game, and he declined.
Idaho coach, former South Dakota State coordinator Jason Eck analyzes FCS championship matchup - https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... ip-matchup

Does anyone else feel like there's an extreme amount of press on the gris? Was there this much when the Cats made it in 2021? Maybe, but seems like more this time.

Guess which one of the two major universities in the state has the journalism school?

Haha, valid point!

[91catAlum]

Listen - I hate dUMb as much as the next guy, and I won't be rooting for them whatsoever. Aside from the hatred, I am not so sure why so many Cat fans are unable to give them the credit they deserve this year. Everyone had them dead and buried after they barely lost to Ferris Bueller State, and then lost to NAU. But they rattled off a bunch of wins in row to finish as the hottest team in the league.

Throw in the fact they pummeled us by manhandling our lines (which no one was able to do) and they beat some pretty good playoff teams that we were unable to beat (Idaho and NDSU). Their defense is stout and playing extremely well right now. And defense wins championships. I would ride that defense that they have right now any day of the week. Their QB is doing just enough to win ball games, and their special teams are probably the best in the nation.

I think this game is gonna be a lot closer than most everybody wants to believe. I still give SDSU the nod, but I think it will be a darn close game.

Vegas has sdsu as 13 point favorites so there is no reason to chastise MSU fans for not giving um enough credit.

No Cats fans have said um has 0 chance but the fact is, sdsu is a big favorite in this game. That's not MSU fans talking, it's the betting bookmakers with actual money on the line.

[Camo_Cat]

Listen - I hate dUMb as much as the next guy, and I won't be rooting for them whatsoever. Aside from the hatred, I am not so sure why so many Cat fans are unable to give them the credit they deserve this year. Everyone had them dead and buried after they barely lost to Ferris Bueller State, and then lost to NAU. But they rattled off a bunch of wins in row to finish as the hottest team in the league.

Throw in the fact they pummeled us by manhandling our lines (which no one was able to do) and they beat some pretty good playoff teams that we were unable to beat (Idaho and NDSU). Their defense is stout and playing extremely well right now. And defense wins championships. I would ride that defense that they have right now any day of the week. Their QB is doing just enough to win ball games, and their special teams are probably the best in the nation.

I think this game is gonna be a lot closer than most everybody wants to believe. I still give SDSU the nod, but I think it will be a darn close game.

Vegas has sdsu as 13 point favorites so there is no reason to chastise MSU fans for not giving um enough credit.

No Cats fans have said um has 0 chance but the fact is, sdsu is a big favorite in this game. That's not MSU fans talking, it's the betting bookmakers with actual money on the line.

Not sure I was chastising our fans. I'm stating facts. All season long we Bobcat fans - myself included - have doubted dUMb all season long. Threads talking about how this may be the worst griz team in years, to they're gonna get drubbed by Idaho, and how the Cats are gonna roll them, to they're not gonna get past their first playoff game. Even recently as how they were just gonna roll NDSU and the bison don't have a chance. And all they've done is continue to prove us wrong.

I don't care how many points the so-called "experts" are picking for an SDSU win. I've seen this story before. All I'm saying is that dUMb has been very good at bottling up all the underdog negativity and using it to their advantage. The Cats used to be excellent at doing the same.

[tetoncat]

Well, we thought we had SDSU whipped.....at THEIR place. So if we came THAT close to beating SDSU and yet UM administered an old fashioned blowout "ass kicking" to MSU, why WOULDN'T a griz fan feel pretty confident going into this game? SDSU beat us by 4 points (though we thought we had won on that last play.) UM beat us by 30! BY THIRTY!

So that translates into the gris beating SDSU by at least three touchdowns. But no, I'm not placing a bet.

So using your transitive NAU should be playing in the championship

[jgrilley406]

Well, we thought we had SDSU whipped.....at THEIR place. So if we came THAT close to beating SDSU and yet UM administered an old fashioned blowout "ass kicking" to MSU, why WOULDN'T a griz fan feel pretty confident going into this game? SDSU beat us by 4 points (though we thought we had won on that last play.) UM beat us by 30! BY THIRTY!

So that translates into the gris beating SDSU by at least three touchdowns. But no, I'm not placing a bet.

So using your transitive NAU should be playing in the championship

Vidlak was the qb then…up until that point with him in they’re probably not making the playoffs. The qb change saved their season, just like Mellot taking over as qb made that playoff run possible.

[Griznationalist]

Well, we thought we had SDSU whipped.....at THEIR place. So if we came THAT close to beating SDSU and yet UM administered an old fashioned blowout "ass kicking" to MSU, why WOULDN'T a griz fan feel pretty confident going into this game? SDSU beat us by 4 points (though we thought we had won on that last play.) UM beat us by 30! BY THIRTY!

So that translates into the gris beating SDSU by at least three touchdowns. But no, I'm not placing a bet.

So using your transitive NAU should be playing in the championship

Right on. NAU lost by only 35 to Arizona, who beat Arizona State by 36 and Washington State by 38. Arizona State beat UCLA, and Washington State beat Wisconsin and Oregon State. So NAU must be better than Oregon State, who beat Utah and lost to Washington by only 2 points. LOL