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[iaafan]

Jesus this place can sound like a bunch of old women arguing over a card game.

I know, it feels all eGRizzy sometimes... eeeewwww

Seriously though, have any of you even played the game, have any of you ever went to Dartmouth, ARE any of you a liar, I mean a lawyer, if not your opinion doesn’t matter

Tomcat is on some type of runner. Usually good poster, acknowledges when he doesn't have expertise, but he just can't seem to let this disagreement go. Not sure if it's personal or he just thinks he's funny trying to troll. But he the last guy I would expect to derail a thread like this. I can’t imagine Colter doing something like this.

I’m a master troller.
I knew if I listed off all the good starting quarterbacks at MSU over the last 15 years in a disguised attempt to relieve the angst here and then sneak in the other two during that span and politely say that they didn’t suck instead of just leaving them out of the discussion, that it would trigger this board. I knew it would ultimately lead to everyone being worried that this board sounds like eGriz. Just call me SkankHunt42 from now on. Will you take me into the woods for a gaming retreat, then take my devices and smash them before burying them in the ground. Then realize it was Gerald Brovlofski all along?

It’s like there’s always a couple cheerleaders who are dogs, but the others always say she’s cute and try to set her up with someone. He then says “uh, yeah and she’s good at math but I think I’ll pass. Thanks though.”

[catatac]

Me after checking this thread only to see that it has moved on from Tyler Bruggman to random NFL quarterbacks from the 1970s:

lol... that's funny chit. Come back in a week and it might have morphed into a P****** match about what time our players are getting up to start workouts.

[allcat]

On the Bruggman discourse, people on both sides are totally overlooking the most relevant aspect of his career.

He's a contributor to the most hilarious piece of sports content ever written:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/113837 ... -meetings/

On its own, this is reason enough for any self-respecting Bobcat fan to put some respect on his name. You don't just ignore someone's involvement in a masterpiece.

But yeah, he was cheeks on the field before, during, and after his MSU tenure.

You pat to read the ny times? You just lost all credibility.

It’s The Athletic, to be fair.

You’ll have to excuse allcat. When all you watch is state regime media, everything seems foreign.

Really, I don't watch any networks, I also don't watch, Fox, CNN, or Msnbc. This makes we wonder even what is state regime media? NPR, PBS?

[SparkCat]

On the Bruggman discourse, people on both sides are totally overlooking the most relevant aspect of his career.

He's a contributor to the most hilarious piece of sports content ever written:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/113837 ... -meetings/

On its own, this is reason enough for any self-respecting Bobcat fan to put some respect on his name. You don't just ignore someone's involvement in a masterpiece.

But yeah, he was cheeks on the field before, during, and after his MSU tenure.

You pat to read the ny times? You just lost all credibility.

It’s The Athletic, to be fair.

You’ll have to excuse allcat. When all you watch is state regime media, everything seems foreign.

Really, I don't watch any networks, I also don't watch, Fox, CNN, or Msnbc. This makes we wonder even what is state regime media? NPR, PBS?

Oh no, that only leaves the daily wire… gross!

[BelligerentBobcat]

Believe it or not, the addition of the politics in thread is not improving things.

[BelligerentBobcat]

On the Bruggman discourse, people on both sides are totally overlooking the most relevant aspect of his career.

He's a contributor to the most hilarious piece of sports content ever written:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/113837 ... -meetings/

On its own, this is reason enough for any self-respecting Bobcat fan to put some respect on his name. You don't just ignore someone's involvement in a masterpiece.

But yeah, he was cheeks on the field before, during, and after his MSU tenure.

You pat to read the ny times? You just lost all credibility.

It’s The Athletic, to be fair.

You’ll have to excuse allcat. When all you watch is state regime media, everything seems foreign.

Really, I don't watch any networks, I also don't watch, Fox, CNN, or Msnbc. This makes we wonder even what is state regime media? NPR, PBS?

Oh no, that only leaves the daily wire… gross!

Matt Walsh is arguably the greatest, and funniest troll there is.

[allcat]

On the Bruggman discourse, people on both sides are totally overlooking the most relevant aspect of his career.

He's a contributor to the most hilarious piece of sports content ever written:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/113837 ... -meetings/

On its own, this is reason enough for any self-respecting Bobcat fan to put some respect on his name. You don't just ignore someone's involvement in a masterpiece.

But yeah, he was cheeks on the field before, during, and after his MSU tenure.

You pat to read the ny times? You just lost all credibility.

It’s The Athletic, to be fair.

You’ll have to excuse allcat. When all you watch is state regime media, everything seems foreign.

Really, I don't watch any networks, I also don't watch, Fox, CNN, or Msnbc. This makes we wonder even what is state regime media? NPR, PBS?

Oh no, that only leaves the daily wire… gross!

Once again you are just trolling. If I don't specifically name something, well you just assume. This just makes you the ass part of assume.

[SparkCat]

On the Bruggman discourse, people on both sides are totally overlooking the most relevant aspect of his career.

He's a contributor to the most hilarious piece of sports content ever written:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/113837 ... -meetings/

On its own, this is reason enough for any self-respecting Bobcat fan to put some respect on his name. You don't just ignore someone's involvement in a masterpiece.

But yeah, he was cheeks on the field before, during, and after his MSU tenure.

You pat to read the ny times? You just lost all credibility.

It’s The Athletic, to be fair.

You’ll have to excuse allcat. When all you watch is state regime media, everything seems foreign.

Really, I don't watch any networks, I also don't watch, Fox, CNN, or Msnbc. This makes we wonder even what is state regime media? NPR, PBS?

Oh no, that only leaves the daily wire… gross!

Once again you are just trolling. If I don't specifically name something, well you just assume. This just makes you the ass part of assume.

You know, you are right, I am just being an ass troll. Sitting in airports all day for work has really left me with time to stir the pot on this extremely derailed thread. Before I stop I’ll say this:

Tom, I don’t always agree with you, however, you do much more work than most of us are willing to do to cover the Cats and for that, thank you very much!

BB, thanks for stirring the pot with me.

allcat, thanks for calling me out!

[Bobcatsinmso]

So...anyone got any portal news yet?

[TomCat88]

Anyone else surprised by the lack of portal signings so far this spring?

I know they have some offers out…. And I know Vigen prefers to develop highschool guys vs the portal “quick fix” (which I agree with completely). But still…

Transfer positions they are searching for:

RB - freshman won't be ready so need one or two more for depth. Henley changed the process here.

WR - they always are looking to add to the room here

DT - Every FCS team is always looking to add quality interior DL...as they are hard to find at this level as the great ones move up

CB - Some of the redshirt freshman are ready but losing Jon and Andrew hurt the veteran presence of this room. Don't be surprised if they add two more.

S - I like the guys we brought in in January but if they land a player who is at or near Ortt's level you have to pull the trigger

So I'm gonna say they would bring in at least 8 more players if it fits which would mean some additional cuts would have to happen as AFCAT has broken down. Surprised they aren't pursuing LB but that also means they like the progress of Daily, Grebe, Taylor, Krahe, and the young freshman (Dethman, Woodbury, and Bowles).

And if this is about the Griz adding players left and right...they are addressing different problems over there. Hauck has really been upset with the trenches so it makes sense that's where they've focused the most.

Based on what I saw at the scrimmage there weren't any glaring needs. I'm thinking most moves are an attempt to build depth and if they happen to find a player capable of jumping into the rotation somewhere, then that's an added bonus. Every position group seems to have either 4-5 battling for an open starting position or 2-3 guys battling for backup spots.

I don't see MSU being in a position where it's looking for a guy to come in and start anywhere. This is a luxury very few teams can make a claim to.

I think the coaches accept the fact that there's not another Tommy Mellott out there. If there were, he'd be playing for a P4 team already and not looking to transfer to MSU. They also don't see one in their own ranks. That's just something they'll address by making whatever changes need to be made to make the team as productive as possible of offense. That isn't to say the QBs on hand can't make the spectacular happen, because there's no doubt they can. Almost every QB, not just Mellott, to take a snap at MSU since 2010 has been able to do that. McGhee, Prukop, Murray, Andersen, McKay, Chambers, Mellott (what an absolutely dymanic group that is; I can't think of any teams with as good and diverse of a group during the same time span). Rovig and Bruggman were the only exceptions, and they didn't suck. That's a pretty good track record.

2010: McGhee OPOY
2011: McGhee 2nd team All-BSC
2012: McGhee OPOY
2013: McGhee HM All-BSC (injury-riddled season)
2014: Prukop/Bleskin 3rd team All-BSC (Prukop despite missing final two reg. season games)
2015: Prukop 2nd team All-BSC
2016: Bruggman/Murray BSC frosh of the year (Murray; and beat UM in Msla)
2017: Murray none (beat UM)
2018: Andersen 1st team All-BSC
2019: Rovig none (beat UM)
2020: covid
2021: McKay/Mellott (awards given out before postseason) McKay and Mellott combined for a very good season but won no awards and lost to UM then Mellott got MSU to the national title game
2022: Chambers/Mellott Newcomer of the year and 2nd team All-BSC All-Purpose player (Chambers)/2nd team All-BSC (Mellott)
2023: Mellott/Chambers 2nd team All-BSC (Mellott)/1st team All-BSC All-Purpose player (Chambers)
2024: Mellott OPOY/Payton Award

That's three OPOYs, four 1st team All-BSC, four 2nd team All-BSC, one third team All-BSC, one frosh of the year, one newcomer of the year, one first team All-BSC All-Purpose and one second team All-Purpose. That's 12 separate awards (when you count the 3 OPOYs as 1st teamers) and 16 total in 14 years.
Of the 14 seasons, 10 ended in the playoffs.
Of the three years (2017, 2019 and 2021) MSU didn't see a QB get some kind of award, the Bobcats beat UM twice (2017 and 2019) and advanced to the national semifinals once (2019) and to the national title game once (2021).

[BigBruceBaker]

I was never president of his fan club either. He always threw short of the sticks.

He was definitely better than Bruggeman though

Bruggeman had the same pattern before. He clearly suffered from performance anxiety. Time after time it was reported how good he looked (throwing) in practices, but when Saturday came around he just couldn’t make it happen. I honestly really felt sorry for the guy as he must have been miserable during the week knowing what was to come. As I remember, he started the season with a nice TD drive against Idaho, and then lost it by the next series.

Imagine if he would have been teammates with Ricky Williams. He would be been all world….

[AFCAT]

Anyone else surprised by the lack of portal signings so far this spring?

I know they have some offers out…. And I know Vigen prefers to develop highschool guys vs the portal “quick fix” (which I agree with completely). But still…

Transfer positions they are searching for:

RB - freshman won't be ready so need one or two more for depth. Henley changed the process here.

WR - they always are looking to add to the room here

DT - Every FCS team is always looking to add quality interior DL...as they are hard to find at this level as the great ones move up

CB - Some of the redshirt freshman are ready but losing Jon and Andrew hurt the veteran presence of this room. Don't be surprised if they add two more.

S - I like the guys we brought in in January but if they land a player who is at or near Ortt's level you have to pull the trigger

So I'm gonna say they would bring in at least 8 more players if it fits which would mean some additional cuts would have to happen as AFCAT has broken down. Surprised they aren't pursuing LB but that also means they like the progress of Daily, Grebe, Taylor, Krahe, and the young freshman (Dethman, Woodbury, and Bowles).

And if this is about the Griz adding players left and right...they are addressing different problems over there. Hauck has really been upset with the trenches so it makes sense that's where they've focused the most.

Based on what I saw at the scrimmage there weren't any glaring needs. I'm thinking most moves are an attempt to build depth and if they happen to find a player capable of jumping into the rotation somewhere, then that's an added bonus. Every position group seems to have either 4-5 battling for an open starting position or 2-3 guys battling for backup spots.

I don't see MSU being in a position where it's looking for a guy to come in and start anywhere. This is a luxury very few teams can make a claim to.

I think the coaches accept the fact that there's not another Tommy Mellott out there. If there were, he'd be playing for a P4 team already and not looking to transfer to MSU. They also don't see one in their own ranks. That's just something they'll address by making whatever changes need to be made to make the team as productive as possible of offense. That isn't to say the QBs on hand can't make the spectacular happen, because there's no doubt they can. Almost every QB, not just Mellott, to take a snap at MSU since 2010 has been able to do that. McGhee, Prukop, Murray, Andersen, McKay, Chambers, Mellott (what an absolutely dymanic group that is; I can't think of any teams with as good and diverse of a group during the same time span). Rovig and Bruggman were the only exceptions, and they didn't suck. That's a pretty good track record.

2010: McGhee OPOY
2011: McGhee 2nd team All-BSC
2012: McGhee OPOY
2013: McGhee HM All-BSC (injury-riddled season)
2014: Prukop/Bleskin 3rd team All-BSC (Prukop despite missing final two reg. season games)
2015: Prukop 2nd team All-BSC
2016: Bruggman/Murray BSC frosh of the year (Murray; and beat UM in Msla)
2017: Murray none (beat UM)
2018: Andersen 1st team All-BSC
2019: Rovig none (beat UM)
2020: covid
2021: McKay/Mellott (awards given out before postseason) McKay and Mellott combined for a very good season but won no awards and lost to UM then Mellott got MSU to the national title game
2022: Chambers/Mellott Newcomer of the year/2nd team All-BSC
2023: Mellott/Chambers 2nd team All-BSC (Mellott)
2024: Mellott OPOY/Payton Award

That's three OPOYs, four 1st team All-BSC, four 2nd team All-BSC, one third team All-BSC, one frosh of the year and one newcomer of the year. That's ten separate awards (when you count the 3 OPOYs as 1st teamers) and 14 total in 14 years.
Of the 14 seasons, 10 ended in the playoffs.
Of the three years (2017, 2019 and 2021) MSU didn't see a QB get some kind of award, the Bobcats beat UM twice (2017 and 2019) and advanced to the national semifinals once (2019) and to the national title game once (2021).

Might want to add that Chambers was 2nd team all Big Sky as an all-purpose player his first season, along with that newcomer of the year mention. Chambers was first team all Big Sky as an all-purpose player his last season. Obviously, he was a QB both years and in my mind, a future hall of famer.

[TomCat88]

Anyone else surprised by the lack of portal signings so far this spring?

I know they have some offers out…. And I know Vigen prefers to develop highschool guys vs the portal “quick fix” (which I agree with completely). But still…

Transfer positions they are searching for:

RB - freshman won't be ready so need one or two more for depth. Henley changed the process here.

WR - they always are looking to add to the room here

DT - Every FCS team is always looking to add quality interior DL...as they are hard to find at this level as the great ones move up

CB - Some of the redshirt freshman are ready but losing Jon and Andrew hurt the veteran presence of this room. Don't be surprised if they add two more.

S - I like the guys we brought in in January but if they land a player who is at or near Ortt's level you have to pull the trigger

So I'm gonna say they would bring in at least 8 more players if it fits which would mean some additional cuts would have to happen as AFCAT has broken down. Surprised they aren't pursuing LB but that also means they like the progress of Daily, Grebe, Taylor, Krahe, and the young freshman (Dethman, Woodbury, and Bowles).

And if this is about the Griz adding players left and right...they are addressing different problems over there. Hauck has really been upset with the trenches so it makes sense that's where they've focused the most.

Based on what I saw at the scrimmage there weren't any glaring needs. I'm thinking most moves are an attempt to build depth and if they happen to find a player capable of jumping into the rotation somewhere, then that's an added bonus. Every position group seems to have either 4-5 battling for an open starting position or 2-3 guys battling for backup spots.

I don't see MSU being in a position where it's looking for a guy to come in and start anywhere. This is a luxury very few teams can make a claim to.

I think the coaches accept the fact that there's not another Tommy Mellott out there. If there were, he'd be playing for a P4 team already and not looking to transfer to MSU. They also don't see one in their own ranks. That's just something they'll address by making whatever changes need to be made to make the team as productive as possible of offense. That isn't to say the QBs on hand can't make the spectacular happen, because there's no doubt they can. Almost every QB, not just Mellott, to take a snap at MSU since 2010 has been able to do that. McGhee, Prukop, Murray, Andersen, McKay, Chambers, Mellott (what an absolutely dymanic group that is; I can't think of any teams with as good and diverse of a group during the same time span). Rovig and Bruggman were the only exceptions, and they didn't suck. That's a pretty good track record.

2010: McGhee OPOY
2011: McGhee 2nd team All-BSC
2012: McGhee OPOY
2013: McGhee HM All-BSC (injury-riddled season)
2014: Prukop/Bleskin 3rd team All-BSC (Prukop despite missing final two reg. season games)
2015: Prukop 2nd team All-BSC
2016: Bruggman/Murray BSC frosh of the year (Murray; and beat UM in Msla)
2017: Murray none (beat UM)
2018: Andersen 1st team All-BSC
2019: Rovig none (beat UM)
2020: covid
2021: McKay/Mellott (awards given out before postseason) McKay and Mellott combined for a very good season but won no awards and lost to UM then Mellott got MSU to the national title game
2022: Chambers/Mellott Newcomer of the year/2nd team All-BSC
2023: Mellott/Chambers 2nd team All-BSC (Mellott)
2024: Mellott OPOY/Payton Award

That's three OPOYs, four 1st team All-BSC, four 2nd team All-BSC, one third team All-BSC, one frosh of the year and one newcomer of the year. That's ten separate awards (when you count the 3 OPOYs as 1st teamers) and 14 total in 14 years.
Of the 14 seasons, 10 ended in the playoffs.
Of the three years (2017, 2019 and 2021) MSU didn't see a QB get some kind of award, the Bobcats beat UM twice (2017 and 2019) and advanced to the national semifinals once (2019) and to the national title game once (2021).

Might want to add that Chambers was 2nd team all Big Sky as an all-purpose player his first season, along with that newcomer of the year mention. Chambers was first team all Big Sky as an all-purpose player his last season. Obviously, he was a QB both years and in my mind, a future hall of famer.

Thanks. Will do.
Chambers and Mellott may have racked up a lot more individual awards had they been solo acts, but injuries might have thwarted that.

Nonetheless the point is MSU has had a great deal of both long- and short-term success the last 15 years. The short-term success (Vigen years) has been even greater. It's hard to predict the future, but if you're using the recent past as an indicator the odds are good that MSU will have one of the top QBs in the BSC. Both Wilson and Duchien looked beyond serviceable at the position in spring ball.

The top returning QB is Ty Pennington, who was the BSC newcomer of the year. 2nd teamer Hastings and HM Chachere both graduated and I believe are done. Pennington had a 145.7 rating with 13 TDs against just 2 INTs. Ran for 400+ yards at 4.2 per carry. I didn't watch him play, but those are good numbers. Similar to Matt McKay (150.2, 16/3; 400+ at 4.1).

[gtapp]

So, where are we at with transfers? The QB has yet to be seen on the field so TBD. How did the 2 transfer d-backs (JUCO) look in spring ball? The Transfer from Nevada looks like a solid addition but did not generate much excitement from BN. Is that it? 4 transfers? Vigen has always said he does not prefer transfers but he has done really well with the few he does bring in. Maybe the program has reached a point that we no longer need them. IMO, the last 2 recruiting classes have been the best 2 classes I have ever seen at MSU (time will tell).

[AFCAT]

So, where are we at with transfers? The QB has yet to be seen on the field so TBD. How did the 2 transfer d-backs (JUCO) look in spring ball? The Transfer from Nevada looks like a solid addition but did not generate much excitement from BN. Is that it? 4 transfers? Vigen has always said he does not prefer transfers but he has done really well with the few he does bring in. Maybe the program has reached a point that we no longer need them. IMO, the last 2 recruiting classes have been the best 2 classes I have ever seen at MSU (time will tell).

The Cats will see at least one more transfer. I see Vigen has started following a RB transfer from BYU. The other RB they were high on and offered, committed to Missouri State.

[TomCat88]

So, where are we at with transfers? The QB has yet to be seen on the field so TBD. How did the 2 transfer d-backs (JUCO) look in spring ball? The Transfer from Nevada looks like a solid addition but did not generate much excitement from BN. Is that it? 4 transfers? Vigen has always said he does not prefer transfers but he has done really well with the few he does bring in. Maybe the program has reached a point that we no longer need them. IMO, the last 2 recruiting classes have been the best 2 classes I have ever seen at MSU (time will tell).

MSU isn't in dire straits at any position. So, they don't 'need' to bring in anyone. They always want depth and if in the midst of looking for that they land a ringer, that's an added bonus.

The one JUCO DB had an interception. MSU might have more speed at safety this year, but it'll be hard to replicate what it had in Dowler/Polidore and Ortt last year. The speed factor will help offset that. There are a ton of good DBs that might be great DBs. It's hard to jump off the page at that position in a scrimmage. Your 'maybe' is closer to accurate than it is to inaccurate. Based on recent history, MSU is very good at player development, which in turn negates the desperation that a lot of teams have with the transfer portal.

[AFCAT]

Coming on a visit.

[BelligerentBobcat]

So, where are we at with transfers? The QB has yet to be seen on the field so TBD. How did the 2 transfer d-backs (JUCO) look in spring ball? The Transfer from Nevada looks like a solid addition but did not generate much excitement from BN. Is that it? 4 transfers? Vigen has always said he does not prefer transfers but he has done really well with the few he does bring in. Maybe the program has reached a point that we no longer need them. IMO, the last 2 recruiting classes have been the best 2 classes I have ever seen at MSU (time will tell).

The Cats will see at least one more transfer. I see Vigen has started following a RB transfer from BYU. The other RB they were high on and offered, committed to Missouri State.

BYU RB is visiting this weekend. Early enrollee true freshman who’s already transferring. Good for us though!

[iaafan]

So, where are we at with transfers? The QB has yet to be seen on the field so TBD. How did the 2 transfer d-backs (JUCO) look in spring ball? The Transfer from Nevada looks like a solid addition but did not generate much excitement from BN. Is that it? 4 transfers? Vigen has always said he does not prefer transfers but he has done really well with the few he does bring in. Maybe the program has reached a point that we no longer need them. IMO, the last 2 recruiting classes have been the best 2 classes I have ever seen at MSU (time will tell).

The Cats will see at least one more transfer. I see Vigen has started following a RB transfer from BYU. The other RB they were high on and offered, committed to Missouri State.

BYU RB is visiting this weekend. Early enrollee true freshman who’s already transferring. Good for us though!

Uhhh…wut?

[BelligerentBobcat]

So, where are we at with transfers? The QB has yet to be seen on the field so TBD. How did the 2 transfer d-backs (JUCO) look in spring ball? The Transfer from Nevada looks like a solid addition but did not generate much excitement from BN. Is that it? 4 transfers? Vigen has always said he does not prefer transfers but he has done really well with the few he does bring in. Maybe the program has reached a point that we no longer need them. IMO, the last 2 recruiting classes have been the best 2 classes I have ever seen at MSU (time will tell).

The Cats will see at least one more transfer. I see Vigen has started following a RB transfer from BYU. The other RB they were high on and offered, committed to Missouri State.

BYU RB is visiting this weekend. Early enrollee true freshman who’s already transferring. Good for us though!

Uhhh…wut?

The BYU transfer RB is/was an early enrollee at BYU. So he’s a true freshman who’s already transferring. Don’t see that happen very often.