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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by AFCAT » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:50 pm

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We didn't get the Juice from Narbonne… On his way to UTEP....
Too bad. That’s a big step down from the Big Sky. UTEP got schwacked by NAU last year.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

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AFCAT wrote:
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Montanabob wrote:
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We didn't get the Juice from Narbonne… On his way to UTEP....
Too bad. That’s a big step down from the Big Sky. UTEP got schwacked by NAU last year.
maybe he expects to start with no competition there. :)


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Post by TomCat88 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:01 pm

Whoever is behind MSU’s Twitter and other recruiting day promos deserves a raise.


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Post by wbtfg » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:10 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
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Whoever is behind MSU’s Twitter and other recruiting day promos deserves a raise.
Garrett Becker. Choate gave him a big shoutout in the presser today.



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This graphic is awesome! Love having Martin right up front!



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Griz family to a Cat family...just like that.


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VimSince03 wrote:
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Griz family to a Cat family...just like that.
Moms rocking the old logo. Was she originally a Cat fan?


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:12 am

At least seven, possibly eight, 3-star and five 2-star players. Also, the no. 1 player from Vim’s Montana recruits list and the no. 1 player from my most-likely-to-succeed-from-Montana list.

This is the fourth straight year that MSU has totaled 30 (7x3 + 5x2 = 31) or more stars. Prior to that MSU had never topped 20. The total number of stars over the past four years is more than MSU has gotten since star ratings first came out.


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Post by iaafan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:13 am

Obviously star ratings don’t guarantee success, but the chances of star rated players contributing is greater than unrated players. Not that unrated players can’t make big contributions. They can and do, but the odds are less on the whole.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by Catsrgrood » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:29 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:12 am
At least seven, possibly eight, 3-star and five 2-star players. Also, the no. 1 player from Vim’s Montana recruits list and the no. 1 player from my most-likely-to-succeed-from-Montana list.

This is the fourth straight year that MSU has totaled 30 (7x3 + 5x2 = 31) or more stars. Prior to that MSU had never topped 20. The total number of stars over the past four years is more than MSU has gotten since star ratings first came out.
I get the general sentiment, I do think a higher level of athlete has been recruited the last few years here, which is great.

I also don’t put a ton of stock into those ratings. Last year alone, we had 9 of those stars (Long, White, Putney) not even make it to fall camp. And 6 more of those stars (Metcalf, Duru) are gone already, one year later.

I still think last years class was very solid, but it lost some of its “shine” pretty quickly.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by bobcat99 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:30 am

iaafan wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:13 am
Obviously star ratings don’t guarantee success, but the chances of star rated players contributing is greater than unrated players. Not that unrated players can’t make big contributions. They can and do, but the odds are less on the whole.
I don't agree.

Montana players don't get stars because of where we are located. Idaho often sees the same thing. I've seen us get 2-3* guys from other states that quite honestly wouldn't have been recruited had they played in Montana. They were awful. I'm not going to name names, but trust me, their teammates didn't care about their stars.

Stars are for fans. Stars don't mean ****** once the guys get to campus.

Watch the film. Film will always, always, always matter more than stars. And honestly, these companies just throw out 3* rankings like candy. Oh, you got a scholarship offer from anybody and a letter from a P5 and went to a USC camp? 3 stars! Honestly, look at how these kids rankings change after they get scholarship offers. If you really want to paper scout, scout off of scholarship offers. It's still lacking, but it's better than freaking stars.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by iaafan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:39 am

Vim: you don’t have Boyle on your list.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by iaafan » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:43 am

bobcat99 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:30 am
iaafan wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:13 am
Obviously star ratings don’t guarantee success, but the chances of star rated players contributing is greater than unrated players. Not that unrated players can’t make big contributions. They can and do, but the odds are less on the whole.
I don't agree.

Montana players don't get stars because of where we are located. Idaho often sees the same thing. I've seen us get 2-3* guys from other states that quite honestly wouldn't have been recruited had they played in Montana. They were awful. I'm not going to name names, but trust me, their teammates didn't care about their stars.

Stars are for fans. Stars don't mean ****** once the guys get to campus.

Watch the film. Film will always, always, always matter more than stars. And honestly, these companies just throw out 3* rankings like candy. Oh, you got a scholarship offer from anybody and a letter from a P5 and went to a USC camp? 3 stars! Honestly, look at how these kids rankings change after they get scholarship offers. If you really want to paper scout, scout off of scholarship offers. It's still lacking, but it's better than freaking stars.
15 of the 24 projected starters have star ratings. Less than half of MSU’s recruits have had star ratings. Like I said, “on the whole” star rated players are more apt to succeed. It isn’t a slam on unrated players.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by stevo » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:26 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:01 pm
Whoever is behind MSU’s Twitter and other recruiting day promos deserves a raise.
https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/s ... dEUAo6n9nk#



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by kwcat » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:09 am

iaafan wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:39 am
Vim: you don’t have Boyle on your list.
Not vim , obviously, but Boyle, I think, decided to go elsewhere to be able to play QB?



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by Montanabob » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:25 pm

Well our last listed potential recruit, Evan Williams from Saint Francis, Mountain View, CA has a few classmates that made the cut for football on NLI signing day yesterday.

Nikko Pohahau University of Colorado Boulder
Anthony Landphere San Diego State University
Joshua Pakola Stanford University
Maurice Wilmer University of Nevada, Reno


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by VimSince03 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:29 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:25 pm
Well our last listed potential recruit, Evan Williams from Saint Francis, Mountain View, CA has a few classmates that made the cut for football on NLI signing day yesterday.

Nikko Pohahau University of Colorado Boulder
Anthony Landphere San Diego State University
Joshua Pakola Stanford University
Maurice Wilmer University of Nevada, Reno
I think Williams is going to Fresno State as a "Blue Shirt". Here is an explanation:
What does it mean to be a blue shirt athlete?
Blue shirting is becoming a more popular (but hardly common) way to creatively manage the number of athletic scholarships. Blue shirt rules allow for unrecruited players to be awarded a scholarship at the start of freshman practice. This allows a team that may have too many commits to essentially borrow against their next year’s scholarship total. The rules are rather strict in regard to what is defined as being “unrecruited.” That means there was no official visit taken by the athlete, the coach didn’t visit the athlete at home, there was no National Letter of Intent signed, and no form of athletic aid.

Given those recruiting restrictions, it is still a pretty rare occurrence for a student-athlete to be considered for a blue shirt scholarship offer.

What all of the many different color shirts tells you is that it’s now more important than ever to know exactly how a coach plans to bring you on board and why, and what that means to your eligibility. Keep in mind, being a red, gray, green, or blue shirt may not be the start you imagined, but many athletes have benefited from these different scholarship scenarios and go on to enjoy successful college careers.


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