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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by 77matcat » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:35 pm

I believe the Russians would explain the reason as “useful idiot”.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Bobcatsinmso » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am

arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am

Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by 77matcat » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:30 pm

14 different contacts in the TRump .org.

Lots of denial then changing story.

Where there’s smoke.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by wbtfg » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:13 am

77matcat wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:30 pm
14 different contacts in the TRump .org.

Lots of denial then changing story.

Where there’s smock.
FIFY



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Pecos24 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:57 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:13 am
77matcat wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:30 pm
14 different contacts in the TRump .org.

Lots of denial then changing story.

Where there’s smock.
FIFY
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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by wbtfg » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:48 pm

Did POTUS just call Michael Cohen a rat for cooperating with the US Dept of Justice? Oh what a time to be alive.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by CatBlitz » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by John K » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:38 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?
Isn't it funny how his supporters always seem to forget that? Mark my words...if they dig deep enough, they are going to find so much corruption within every facet of Trump's business and political organizations, that he'll make Bernie Madoff and "Tricky Dick" Nixon and "Slick Willie" Clinton all look like Mother Teresa.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:26 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?
Well CBlitz, Jeff Flake, Bill Kristol, Steven Hayes, Bobby Corker, John Kasich are “republicans” too and they hate Trump. Meaningless point :shrug: . Oh, least I forget, James Comey is a “republican” too.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:29 pm

John K wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:38 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?
Isn't it funny how his supporters always seem to forget that?
Mark my words...if they dig deep enough
, they are going to find so much corruption within every facet of Trump's business and political organizations, that he'll make Bernie Madoff and "Tricky Dick" Nixon and "Slick Willie" Clinton all look like Mother Teresa.
John K, I’ve marked your words. Also, did you just confirm that the Mueller investigation is not about Russian collusion, right?



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by RickRund » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:52 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:26 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?
Well CBlitz, Jeff Flake, Bill Kristol, Steven Hayes, Bobby Corker, John Kasich are “republicans” too and they hate Trump. Meaningless point :shrug: . Oh, least I forget, James Comey is a “republican” too.
Thanks arvcat... Saved me having to post that...



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by CatBlitz » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:42 pm

So basically, everything smells like ****** but Trump can't be bothered checking his own shoe. Country over party right? :eyeroll:

Trump is either the most idiotic president of all time in failing to keep anyone in his cabinet together, not knowing one single detail of the operations of his campaign, and everything Russia is everyone else's fault; or he knows exactly what's going on. Either way, he looks like a buffoon in all of this.

And his defense of all these clowns talking to Mueller and taking plea deals and getting convicted should be the opposite. He should be happy they're taking the fall, but he seems to want to dig his own grave. His actions are not indicative of someone who's innocent.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by John K » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:36 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:29 pm
John K wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:38 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?
Isn't it funny how his supporters always seem to forget that?
Mark my words...if they dig deep enough
, they are going to find so much corruption within every facet of Trump's business and political organizations, that he'll make Bernie Madoff and "Tricky Dick" Nixon and "Slick Willie" Clinton all look like Mother Teresa.
John K, I’ve marked your words. Also, did you just confirm that the Mueller investigation is not about Russian collusion, right?
Please show me where I said that. Of course it's about that, but I'm just saying that between Mueller and the SDNY, they're going to find so much more in addition to that. As you may recall, Clinton wasn't impeached over Whitewater either, which is what Ken Lay's investigation was supposed to be about.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:51 pm

John K wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:36 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:29 pm
John K wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:38 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 am
Bobcatsinmso wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:03 pm
Stepping back or to reset (without a plastic button 8) ), a simple question for you Trump colluded with the Russians to do fix the outcome of the 2016 election in Trump’s favor conspiracists: Why would Putin & the Russians want Trump over Hillary to be the President???
To sow discord in America, Trump most certainly is more polarizing then HC, (although not by much). One must understand that it is in Russia's DNA to cause problems within other countries that it deems as competitors to their goal of global domination. They have been subverting countless nations, and leaders since the end of WW2 in order to further their goals to be the worlds preeminent power. They love the time tested tactic of divide and conquer. There really is not much difference between the old Soviet Union, and modern day Russia, other than they lost some of their dominance and territory during the breakup. But make no mistake they are regaining a lot of that. Just look at the Crimea and the eventual takeover of Ukraine for example. The question some are concerned about is whether the Trump Administration actually sought out active support from Russia to tip the scales in the 2016 election. That remains to be proven and may very well end up being inconclusive. In the grand scheme of things for the United States, all this does is draw more attention from the real threat to America and the free world which is in fact the Chinese. The vast majority of active duty American military officers will tell you that very thing.
I agree with your analysis of Russian motivations and the Chinese. However, to date, there is not a shred of evidence that Trump knowingly or wittingly (to use James Clapper’s famous phrase) conspired with the Russians to sow discord (collude, fix, etc.) in our 2016 election. Who was in the oval office when Putin took over Crimea and bit into Ukraine (and did nothing about it) and wouldn’t a Hillary administration be an extension of an Obama administration?
It is quite obvious that the motivation of the Mueller's one sided investigation is not about Russian collusion.
You know Mueller is a Republican right?
Isn't it funny how his supporters always seem to forget that?
Mark my words...if they dig deep enough
, they are going to find so much corruption within every facet of Trump's business and political organizations, that he'll make Bernie Madoff and "Tricky Dick" Nixon and "Slick Willie" Clinton all look like Mother Teresa.
John K, I’ve marked your words. Also, did you just confirm that the Mueller investigation is not about Russian collusion, right?
Please show me where I said that. Of course it's about that, but I'm just saying that between Mueller and the SDNY, they're going to find so much more in addition to that. As you may recall, Clinton wasn't impeached over Whitewater either, which is what Ken Lay's investigation was supposed to be about.
It's self evident in your corruption allegation allegations about Trump's business & political organizations. The SDNY spin off is entirely about pre-election crap.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by 77matcat » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:20 pm

Kleptocracy (from Greek κλέπτης kléptēs, "thief", κλέπτω kléptō, "I steal", and -κρατία -kratía from κράτος krátos, "power, rule") is a government with corrupt leaders (kleptocrats) that use their power to exploit the people and natural resources of their own territory in order to extend their personal wealth and political powers. Typically, this system involves embezzlement of funds at the expense of the wider population.[1][2]

See TRump’s admin



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:32 am

77matcat wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:20 pm
Kleptocracy (from Greek κλέπτης kléptēs, "thief", κλέπτω kléptō, "I steal", and -κρατία -kratía from κράτος krátos, "power, rule") is a government with corrupt leaders (kleptocrats) that use their power to exploit the people and natural resources of their own territory in order to extend their personal wealth and political powers. Typically, this system involves embezzlement of funds at the expense of the wider population.[1][2]

See TRump’s admin
Dang, you all but nailed the real mission statement of the Clinton Foundation Global Initiative…well done =D^



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by 77matcat » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:03 pm

TRump minions. 🙄🙄🙄

If Obama and Clitons were half as dirty as TRump and associates why didn’t the republican senate and house put them behind bars??? I’m republican oriented so I wouldn’t mind. Just wonder what your thoughts are.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by The Butcher » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:52 am

arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:32 am
Dang, you all but nailed the real mission statement of the Clinton Foundation Global Initiative…well done =D^
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... wn-lawsuit

And don't get me started on Trump University!



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